Burg Producer Stylistic Graph

[Henry_Kiichli]

@Martin Steinley

Henry, thank you very much for finding and posting this.

Keith, you did a really fine job with this ten years ago, and I see little to quibble with even today, although the jury is still out at domaines such as Maume and l’Arlot with recent changes there.

Martin,
You are most welcome! I knew I had this somewhere in the dark corners of my files.

Keith,

Thanks for your work! Glad to know who is responsible.

[Charlie_Carnes]

Keith, I remember when you did this. I always thought it was super cool!

[Ian_Sutton]

@TBurklow

Where is DRC?

Where is Maison Ilan?

[Sanjay_Nandurkar]

@Ian Sutton

@TBurklow

Where is DRC?

Where is Maison Ilan?

Right next to DRC. Hence, you can’t see them too and like DRC difficult to procure

[Sanjay_Nandurkar]

Based on recent tasting of H Neollat I would move them to a different corner altogether. More in to Classical verging towards contemporary

[Kelly_Walker]

Le Moine belongs in the bottom right had quadrant

[Greg_Xu]

Very interesting. I wish there is a dimension on sous bois ( undergrowth ) in the chart

[Nigel_Bruce]

Hi Keith,
A goof friend is putting on a Perrot-Minot tasting tomorrow - I passed him your chart.
You said “The thing that gave me the biggest chuckle was making Perrot-Minot literally off the charts in the oaky category but I don’t think anyone ever picked up on the humor” - what’s the joke there? He needs to know:~] - sad thing is I have to miss the event.

[Stan_Y]

@Gerhard P.

Also I think Ponsot is very misplaced.

@Keith Levenberg

I’d still put Ponsot right about where it is.

It’s in the middle of oaky/modern but it sees no new oak - minimum 5 year old wood.

[dbailey]

@Gerhard P.

@dbailey

This was on the squires bb at least 5 years ago and probably pre-dates that by a few years too. Hence, the separate locations for Arnoux and lachaux and other locations that people might find odd today.

Arnoux-Lachaux is one property, former Domaine Robert Arnoux … in 2007 Pascal Lachaux, wine-maker there for 12+ years, added his name officially to the designation.
(there´s never been a Domaine Lachaux … as far as I´m concerned)

Thanks. Was aware of that and Keith’s rationale…

[John_Morris]

@Keith Levenberg

There was no Arnoux-Lachaux at this time. There was Domaine Robert Arnoux and the Pascal Lachaux negociant wines which were made in a purposely younger-drinking style, hence their different placement.

I believe Arnoux-Lachaux was simply the new name for Domaine Robert Arnoux, where Lachaux had been making the wines for a decade or more.

[Keith_Levenberg]

@John Morris

@Keith Levenberg

There was no Arnoux-Lachaux at this time. There was Domaine Robert Arnoux and the Pascal Lachaux negociant wines which were made in a purposely younger-drinking style, hence their different placement.

I believe Arnoux-Lachaux was simply the new name for Domaine Robert Arnoux, where Lachaux had been making the wines for a decade or more.

That is correct. But Pascal Lachaux was a separate label that predated the change of the name of Domaine Arnoux.

[Keith_Levenberg]

@Stan Y.

@Gerhard P.

Also I think Ponsot is very misplaced.

@Keith Levenberg

I’d still put Ponsot right about where it is.

It’s in the middle of oaky/modern

No it isn’t.

[Dennis_Kanagie]

@Keith Levenberg

@Stan Y.

@Gerhard P.

Also I think Ponsot is very misplaced.

@Keith Levenberg

I’d still put Ponsot right about where it is.

It’s in the middle of oaky/modern

No it isn’t.

Alright! We’re just one or two steps away from another Burgundy Brawl.

[Stan_Y]

@Keith Levenberg

@Stan Y.

@Gerhard P.

Also I think Ponsot is very misplaced.

@Keith Levenberg

I’d still put Ponsot right about where it is.

It’s in the middle of oaky/modern

No it isn’t.

No brawl, I’m reading it wrong - oaky more positive, fruity more negative along the Y axis. But wait a minute, Leroy is at a similar Y coordinate and they’re 100% new oak (I thought). So I still don’t get it .

[Ian_Sutton]

Ah
Put 3 burgundy fans in a room and you’ll get 7 different opinions

[Dennis_Kanagie]

Stan, I don’t get why Ponsot is on the “oaky” side either… but I haven’t had a bottle from this century yet so WTF do I know?

[Keith_Levenberg]

@Dennis Kanagie

Stan, I don’t get why Ponsot is on the “oaky” side either…

IT ISN’T

[Dennis_Kanagie]

@Keith Levenberg

@Dennis Kanagie

Stan, I don’t get why Ponsot is on the “oaky” side either…

IT ISN’T

MAYBE WE HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA OF HOW A CHART SHOULD BE LAYED OUT THEN.

So do we keep yelling virtually at each other? I’m always up for a good on-line throw down.

[Matt_Latuchie]

@Dennis Kanagie

Stan, I don’t get why Ponsot is on the “oaky” side either… but I haven’t had a bottle from this century yet so WTF do I know?

Ponsot is clearly within the Fruity/Contemporary quadrant.