Brad Kane does not like Champagne

WINE TALK
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Two to three grapes I don’t love, picked at the peak of unripeness -Brad

I have never before seen or heard someone say that he or she dislikes Champagne. Is this a known condition, or is it just Brad? And New York winos, Brad’s always at one party or another. Have you at least attempted a weekend-long intervention?

Sacrebleu!

Does anyone else here dislike Champagne?

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well lets just say that it’s not my favorite. [oops.gif]

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nor does he like Burgundy, California Cabs, white Rhones, Chardonnay, and I think a host of others. Some of us believe he doesn’t like wine. neener His one redeeming quality is that he likes CdP.

BTW, I am not much of a champagne fan. I’ve only begun to enjoy champagne since drinking many of Ray T’s mature offerings.

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Yep, what Paul said. I’ve managed to get him to enjoy a few older Burgs, including (shockingly) some 1996s. His favorites are Loire whites, Barolo, and Chateauneuf. Oh, and older CA Cabs. But no Chard, of any type.

Sarah Kirschbaum can’t drink carbonated beverages, so there goes Champagne. She does have a fantastic palate other than that. [wink.gif]

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I dont like champagne, and havent met a Bordeaux other than Pavie I loved either. My experiences with both are relatively limited though.

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I really enjoy Champagne but it is the wine for which I am least able to detect quality differences. Beyond a very good sparkler or $30 Champagne, the price/quality ratio just doesn’t move me.

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While I’m sure that there are people who wouldn’t like any champagne that they were served, I think the vast majority of the people who say “I don’t like Champagne” haven’t been exposed to enough styles/age/quality etc.

I can think of at least a dozen different people who had told me “I’m not a fan of Champagne” in the past but who now look forward to drinking it.

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Not entirely true. I’m liking red Burgs a lot more these days. I think global warming will be a huge boon to the region.

I also like California cabs so long as they’re not over oaked or have excessive alcohol levels. It’s not my fault that’s out of fashion these days, though, thankfully, it does seem like the pendulum is swinging back a little. I’m thinking one silver lining in the current economic climate is that folks won’t be able to afford as much oak and that’s a good thing.

BTW, I am not much of a champagne fan. I’ve only begun to enjoy champagne since drinking many of Ray T’s mature offerings.

Yeah. If I have to drink Champagne, I want it to be with Ray. Definitely not with Abood.

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It’s the dryness and bubble thing I really don’t like. Well, I’m not that into the flavor profile for the most part, nor their pricing, but other than that, it’s perfectly fine…

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One more thing, I’ve never had a champagne that I thought was worth the money. It’s the most overpriced wine out there.

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That '94 Cali Cab dinner we did, you hated every wine. I guess you also don’t like Cali Pinot, right?

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Not true. Go back and look at the notes, though that said, most of the wines performed poorly that night and there was general agreement on that. But, for the most part, I prefer the style of Cab that was made up until about '92 as they were lower in alcohol, less extracted and saw less oak, on average. Here’s the link to that '94 tasting: 1994 California Cabernet Horizontal.

I guess you also don’t like Cali Pinot, right?

It depends on the oak and alcohol levels.

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I think just the opposite; that Champagnes are one of the best values -
that’s what makes a market.

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Don’t forget Bordeaux, Northern Rhones, Bandol, Languedoc, old school Rioja, Alsace and Germany, with a whole lotta exceptions thrown in here and there.

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It’s hard for me to “dislike” Champagne per se, but the prices are WOW!, and the product is OK.

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agrred - one of the bargains of the fine wine world

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Didn’t the Champenois mulch their fine vineyards with Parisian garbage? Not that anything posted on WD is remotely reliable.

RT

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appears to be true:
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There was a semi-documentary done about this not long ago by a wine blogger.