It is not so much as a shutdown as a transition to a new platform which is only bottle inventory, no extra info like tasting notes, etc. I did receive an email response that eventually they will return the professional reviews, ETA unknown. So I suppose all is not lost for the long haul at some point which could be after my death now that you know my age, lol!
Not sure if Class of '87 or born in '87, but either way, the best year!!!
I started my current job in Jan, 1987. First work computer was an IBM XT with a 5.25" floppy drive and maybe 20MB hard disk. But most of my work was done on Cray main frames which were super impressive at the time but probably 10,000 times less powerful than a current iPhone.
-Al
I think I still have a couple of 5.25" and 3.5" floppies (circa 1988 and circa 2005, respectively, I think), and at least one Zipdrive disk (2009) with emails and lists that I once imagined I would someday need.
Do you think theyâll be like LPs and come back into favor?
One of my bosses tried to maintain drives to be able to read all the various types of media we had once used, often also needed computers and cables or adapters to allow them to be connected (various floppies, Zip, Jaz, magneto optical, various tape drives, . . .). Eventually gave up.
-Al
I used to save my Basic programs to cassettes. I actually played Pong and thought it was fun. Cranston Manor was an epic gaming experience, but Zork on my Kaypro takes the cake on dating myself.
Class of â82.
I played the Colossal Cave game while taking overnight shifts at a particle physics experiment at SLAC. It was initially developed for PDP-10 computers (we had one to run the data acquisition system), but I think played on a version ported to a larger IBM mainframe. I think Zork was a follow-on, but there were so many different versions of these cave/adventure/dungeon games.
-Al
In high school, we had an HP computer with 8K (you read that right) of core memory. It came with a genuine Teletype terminal and we stored our programs on paper punch tape via the terminal, and then loaded them into the computer memory when we wanted to run them.
I donât have any punch tapes, sadly.
But Iâm dating myself.
and with a mini computer, not a PX.
Not sure you will lose all the professional notes. If you still subscribe to the newsletter, in many cases (not WA), you can link the Magazine to your CT account and the notes magically open up when you look at the wine
Sorry Christine,
We can definitely get you rolling very quickly with whatever data Vinfolio can export. It feels like VinCellar has been slowly dying since the bankruptcy in 2010.
I will say, having seen maybe 1000 spreadsheets over the past 15 years, they just export current inventory, consumed bottles and tasting notes. But confirming what you say, I have never seen private notes or other fields.
Hey now- I still have some of those lol. Mind you it would be a bit of a trick to transfer the data, but I still have it.
To Christine- sorry you are experiencing this. I have lots of backups of all kinds of data after learning the hard way on another platform years ago. The sad truth is that with the ease and low cost of online places to store and share data often comes with ownership that cares little about what happens to that data if they themselves lose interest or otherwise find their business model is not working out.
FWIW, I was a very early member of CT and as others have said, it is very easy to download and back up your data any time you like.
There is also the big plus of ownership integrity. We have never met in person, but I have âknownâ Eric Levine virtually for a long time and watched him build this business. I cannot imagine him ever allowing a situation to evolve where users would find themselves in the position you are in now with your current cellar inventory provider. As long as he or anyone designates remains at the helm, it is about as good and safe a place as there is to trust the enormous amount of knowledge and hard work that goes into your TNs and other writings will be given the respect it deserves.
Thank you much, Eric!
And thank you for making it easy to upload the info I do have! I really appreciate your awesome customer service and engagement
Since there is an 80âs/90âs undertone to this thread, if I had a Back to the Future style do-over, like Biff with the sports almanac, I would have joined Wine Beserkers when it first started, and along with that CellarTracker (even though I didnât really have a wine inventory to speak of at the time, but just to be prepared for my future self)!!! Not sure how that would have changed the universe as a whole, lolâŚbut it definitely would have changed mine
Yes, I am excited to move over to CellarTracker permanently! I know most everyone on WB is on CT for exactly what you said!
It was the Virgo/OCD in me that doesnât always like to make changes once I am comfortable with a certain platform. So I was 2 years into Vincellar before I found CT, and at that point, I was just entrenched in my routine.
To your point, the integrity of the people behind the product are more important than anything!! And this goes for WB as well! I am so grateful to be a part of this community!
You guys are around my daughterâs age. She had the Oregon Trail games. When my Brittany (my upland bird dog) was just a few years old my daughter one night was playing the computer game back in her bedroom while Molly (my dog) and I were out in the living room. When the game broadcast that fateful rattler sound Molly sprang to her feet, with a bark, and bolted straight back to the bedroom and my daughter. Genetics.
Hello Christine,
Thank you for sharing your concerns ahead of our VinCellar closure with the Wineberserker community.
The launch of our brand-new Portfolio Management Software, which has replaced VinCellar this April, represents a significant step forward as we transition from legacy systems to a modern, streamlined platform designed to better support the evolving needs of our customers.
Right out of the gate, our new wine management tool (Portfolio) will be far more powerful than VinCellar and over the next few months weâll roll out functionality to broaden its use to multiple locations including home cellar management.
Currently I can confirm that we have sent you all the data for export that you requested over email including the general inventory information and all tasting notes that you have added over the years. Please let me know if there is anything else that you need.
We truly regret any inconvenience this may have cause and appreciate your understanding during this transition.
Allan Frischman
Thanks for stopping by Allan, we always appreciate representatives engaging on the board. I have no skin in this game, but I am curious how your team decided on how to transition your cellar management product. Doesnât seem like the method was well received just based on this thread.
No. No it definitely does not