Any Red wine for Indian food?

From Eric Azimov’s recent article in NY Times

Rajat Parr, the former wine director for the Michael Mina restaurant group, who grew up in Calcutta and is a partner in Sandhi and Domaine de la Côte, two Santa Barbara wine producers, has informally advised Pondicheri on its list. He says the number of wines that go well with Indian foods is small.

Among reds, he looks to earthier, spicier wines, like syrah and cabernet franc, especially those that are not generously fruity or oaky. Unexpectedly, he suggests that red Burgundies and other wines made with pinot noir, often cited as among the most versatile of wines, do not work that well.

“They’re too subtle, with too much fruit,” he said.

When Daniel Beedle, the beverage director at Indian Accent, took the job, he had eaten a lot of Indian food but had little experience in pairing wines with the dishes. He examined the many spices used in Indian preparations and realized they can often be surprisingly tannic. As others concluded, the best wines were often moderately sweet whites high in acid and fresher, savory reds with few tannins, although he tolerates more fruit in the reds than Mr. Parr does.

Reds from Languedoc-Roussillon, particularly those with grenache and carignan, can be very successful, he said, as can Rioja gran reservas with enough age to have mellowed the tannins. His list is well-stocked with aromatic whites, syrahs from the northern Rhône, cabernet francs from the Loire and Beaujolais.

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Agree with Steven above that Indian would be a good way to waste fine Pinot. The spicing register of Indian can be too astringent with cumin, coriander seed etc… For me, Pinot works better with Chinese spiced food more on the cinnamon, anise etc…

For Indian food, my go to varietal is Gewürztraminer: it is just a fantastic pairing with the more aromatic spices like cardamom and curry leaf etc… Indian food really is a full on sensory assault and less subtle than Thai etc so I think you need a wine that can go toe to toe with this. Gewürztraminer has such a recognizable character, is less about finesse and I find it can do the job.

On red wines, I agree it’s tough. If chilly heat than less tannic works. One good fit is wines with high percentage of petit Verdot. It has a lot of spice and licorice notes that can stand up to the aromatics of the dish.

Definitely. It works with spicy food because it’s low in tannin (and spicy food accentuates tannins, making the wine taste bitter), yet has big enough fruit not to disappear against the strong flavors of the food. And the spice in zin sort of works with spicy food. I’d go with more your Turley type zin than your Ridge type zin for this purpose.

Having said that, this is not going to be some kind of “foie gras and Sauternes” match made in wine geek heaven, it’s just going to be a red wine that you can drink with your Indian food that works perfectly decently. If that’s what you’re looking for, go for it.

I think ripe New World syrah and grenache probably work as well, though I’d say zin is better.

Nope. And those that are, are merely wasting their time with a massive mismatch.

Wrong again Mark. It depends on the dish.

No kidding. The label “Indian food” is like “Western European food.” The range of flavors, spices, and temperatures in Indian cuisine is almost limitless. Which is why I default to a rose champagne (swiss army knife of the cellar).

Well,…obviously, but I am thinking of most of the dishes Americans would be exposed to in American restaurants and the dishes are fairly standard. A red would not be my first preference, unless it was on the lively side. I think the flavors clash more often than not, unless it was a lightly spiced lamb dish.

+1

I’ll go the other direction. Order tandoori chicken, masala dosa, chana saag, or any number of red wine friendly dishes and suddenly your problem disappears.

If you see other people ordering lamb vindaloo don’t give them any wine :slight_smile:

+1000. A few years ago a group of us tried a number of wine matches with Indian food and this really worked



… and here I was worried we wouldn’t have anything to be argumentative about. rolleyes blahblah

Syrah goes great. We did a Syrah tasting with Trey Busch and Sleight of Hands Wines at a local Indian place a few years back and the wines matched beautifully IMO.

Syrah with Rogan Josh. GREAT pairing.

  • 2005 Saxum Heart Stone Vineyard - USA, California, Central Coast, Paso Robles (7/21/2012)
    This is a terrible wine . . . if you want to drink it with veal medallions in a light cream sauce and a side order of pommes de terre gratinee. There’s much too much flavor and it will overpower a delicate dinner. BUT for any other sensible use of a bottle of wine, this is outstanding. With a bullet. Purchased when first offered by Saxum. Popped and poured at Utsav, a very good Indian restaurant in Manhattan. There is a strong, complex fruit profile with cherry and dark fruits, plum and blackberry. There’s vanilla on the nose along with the fruit, but a very smooth vanilla that you also get on the palate. There’s some spice, buit not a lot, on the palate. The pepper that will probably emerge in years to come is just a faint component of the background. The mouth feel was extremely smooth with no rough edges and the finish was very long.

What this wine did with Rogan Josh - an aromatic lamb stew with brown spices but no heat, was perfect. The power of the wine stood up to the aromatics of the food. There was no sweetness in the wine, and it brought out a sweetness in the gravy with the lamb. We ordered the lamb because it goes with GSM wines, but who knew that the wine and Indian spics work work so well together. (94 pts.)

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I’ll agree on that one. Vindaloo and wine doth not a great pairing make.

Reisling doesn’t work, and neither does Gweurtz. I haven’t found a white or red that works. I generally would stick with beer, especially sours.

So Argentine empanadas use lots of Cumin, paprika and black pepper. Usually Malbec goes really well with the empanadas and its tannic. As long as the dish is not spicy, wouldn’t something like Malbec work?

You’re one of a very small minority then.

With which dishes?

These blanket statements about one of the most complex cuisines of the world make a complete mockery of the idea of food and wine pairing.

But then I suppose I should expect that here.

Most of my wine drinking around Indian food comes about when I cook Indian food with my South Indian neighbor. As long as the spices where properly tempered and included early in the preparation it is fairly easy to match with PN or Zin or even a Cab. This is true even for very spicy dishes at least if you are used to very spicy food. From what I can tell it all comes down how spices are integrated into the dish.
The issue really comes in when you are at a restaurant where they ask you how spicy you want the food to be as this means that they add spices towards the end of the preparation. And this holds for any type of cuisine as far as I can tell.