Ah - toasty oak. In large part I like a few splinters in my Cali Cabs but I have not revisited Silver Oak in a while albeit I do have a vertical gifted to me - 6 bottles from somewhere around 08 to 13. Need to do a steak dinner with friends and go for it. Someone is bound to like it - for me it is a decent quaffer with a rib eye. It does beg the question of who uses american oak besides SO. Honestly, I don’t know? Where are the coopers on this board?