Angerville

[MChang]

What about 2011s? I have some taillepieds and fremiets.

[Jerry_Hey]

I’ve had the 11 Champans a few times in Paris and it was drinking well.

[Odd_Rydland]

Angerville, or d’Angerville? This question reminds me of the New Yorker cartoon that’s going around: “I’ll have the misspelled ‘Ceaser’ salad and the improperly hyphenated veal osso-buco.”

I have a bottle of 1995 d’Angerville Clos des Ducs, if someone could tell me when it’ll be ready I’d appreciate it! If I had multiple bottles that’d be a different matter!

It drank very well a month ago, prompting me to say it was the first reasonably mature d’Angerville I’ve had. Last weekend I had the 96 Duc, pure and translucent fruit killed by acids I couldn’t quite handle, and the 04, slightly scrawny fruit and some green meanies, but reasonably fine apart from that and drinking pretty well.

[Subu_Ramachandran]

Last weekend I had the 96 Duc (pure and translucent fruit totally killed by acids, and the 04, slightly scrawny fruit and some green meanies, but reasonably fine apart from that and drinking pretty well.

First time I’m seeing “scrawny fruit and green meanies but drinking well” in the same line. You must be a d’Angerville junkie!

[Odd_Rydland]

Wll, meaning that the wine is quite approachable for a 14 young d’Angerville. Not wonderful, complex or any of that, but not closed down, and unlikely to get any better.

[MChang]

Is there any consensus on which vineyards take more time? Sounds like perhaps Ducs and taillepieds are more concentrated; is fremiets approachable earlier? I’m not as familiar with angerville’s Caillerets or angles.

[Gerhard_P]

Is there any consensus on which vineyards take more time? Sounds like perhaps Ducs and taillepieds are more concentrated; is fremiets approachable earlier? I’m not as familiar with angerville’s Caillerets or angles.

I´d say Ducs (and Champans and Caillerets) need the most time,
Angles and Fremiets may be ready slightly earlier … Taillepieds in between -
all very generally …

[Matthew_King]

I agree with Gerhard’s assessment.

BTW, they make a very nice Bourgogne to drink while waiting on the Ducs. Wee crunchy and succulent… evocative of cranberries

[john_stimson]

Interesting–I would have said Ducs and Taillepieds take the most time. the wines in general can take quite a while, but at least for me I’ve had a few wonderful experiences in the 8-12 year range. these however for me are unpredictable, so I tend to just leave the wines alone during this time.

[Seth_M_Long]

1990 Champans in October was a real pleasure. It was still firmly structured but needs no more cellaring.

[Jay_Miller]

Angerville, or d’Angerville? This question reminds me of the New Yorker cartoon that’s going around: “I’ll have the misspelled ‘Ceaser’ salad and the improperly hyphenated veal osso-buco.”

I have a bottle of 1995 d’Angerville Clos des Ducs, if someone could tell me when it’ll be ready I’d appreciate it! If I had multiple bottles that’d be a different matter!

Not sure you need to wait much longer on the '95. We opened one about a year ago. It was terrific and “ready.” No real rush, but ready.

Angerville, or d’Angerville? This question reminds me of the New Yorker cartoon that’s going around: “I’ll have the misspelled ‘Ceaser’ salad and the improperly hyphenated veal osso-buco.”

I have a bottle of 1995 d’Angerville Clos des Ducs, if someone could tell me when it’ll be ready I’d appreciate it! If I had multiple bottles that’d be a different matter!

It drank very well a month ago, prompting me to say it was the first reasonably mature d’Angerville I’ve had. Last weekend I had the 96 Duc, pure and translucent fruit killed by acids I couldn’t quite handle, and the 04, slightly scrawny fruit and some green meanies, but reasonably fine apart from that and drinking pretty well.

I am surprised and pleased to hear this. May be time to test out some more 1995s. Every time I do I think “5 more years…”

[lleichtman]

I may give the 08 fremiets a shot soon.

I had a bottle of the 08 Fremiets within the last year and was not impressed. Not very expressive, I was guessing it was in a closed period and needed more time. It is possible that the bottle wasn’t stored perfectly but I didn’t identify any faults. Also, I’m not experienced with d’Angerville Fremiets so I don’t have other data points to go off of. If I had another bottle, I’d probably wait another 5 years. I’d be curious to hear from anyone else that has drank this recently.

IMHO, D’Angerville takes about 20 to open up well for me. Still drinking the '95 and drinking well right now. 10 years just seems to early for me.

[Maxwell_A]

I may give the 08 fremiets a shot soon.

I had a bottle of the 08 Fremiets within the last year and was not impressed. Not very expressive, I was guessing it was in a closed period and needed more time. It is possible that the bottle wasn’t stored perfectly but I didn’t identify any faults. Also, I’m not experienced with d’Angerville Fremiets so I don’t have other data points to go off of. If I had another bottle, I’d probably wait another 5 years. I’d be curious to hear from anyone else that has drank this recently.

IMHO, D’Angerville takes about 20 to open up well for me. Still drinking the '95 and drinking well right now. 10 years just seems to early for me.

I may give the 08 fremiets a shot soon.

I had a bottle of the 08 Fremiets within the last year and was not impressed. Not very expressive, I was guessing it was in a closed period and needed more time. It is possible that the bottle wasn’t stored perfectly but I didn’t identify any faults. Also, I’m not experienced with d’Angerville Fremiets so I don’t have other data points to go off of. If I had another bottle, I’d probably wait another 5 years. I’d be curious to hear from anyone else that has drank this recently.

13 years ago I pulled out a 96 Champans and thought it was corked because it had no aroma what so ever. I set it aside and, luckily, didn’t dump it. I got back to it a couple of days later and it was excellent. I wasn’t a big believer in the “wine is shut down” thing until then.

Ah, it sounds like I had a very young and or shut down bottle. I gave it at least 4-5 hours but it never became very expressive. Thanks for the info, guys.

[Jayson_Cohen]

I think the sweet spot under Jacques was 20+ year for the Clos des Ducs, Taillepieds, Champans, and Caillerets generally speaking. The verdict may still be out since Guillaume took full control after Jacques passed away. We are only ~15 years in.

[Eric_Lundblad]

Thanks for all the opinions/thoughts about the 95 Ducs! What Jay Miller said is what I’ve heard elsewhere (tho not recently)…anyways, I’ll put it on the shorter list to open sometime.

[Gerhard_P]

I am surprised and pleased to hear this. May be time to test out some more 1995s. Every time I do I think “5 more years…”

I´d open it 5-6 hours in advance, then decant for 15-20 min.