AI generated "Geeky" wine list

Exactly. Do I need a tool that can scour the entire planet’s data to come with….this?

The wines are great. The curating is so…. Mediocre.

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Vodopivec and La Stoppa on that list is nice!

The red and rose wine lists are a train wreck :sweat_smile:

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All Orange is All Italian, not quite All Friuli.

As of today, I guess that somm jobs are not at risk from AI, but wait 'til next year!

Dan Kravitz

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Feeling better about my wine list today and job security.

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dont’ forget - chat gpt is 2 years behind in data.

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Clearly someone needs to direct it here for training material.

BersekerDay wines would be very well represented on that list

I’ve modified the prompt a bit to keep the list very accessible and I think the results are pretty good.

Could you curate a wine list for a restaurant that includes at least 10 sparkling wines, 20 white wines, 20 red wines, 5 rosé, and 5 orange wines? The list should mainly include producers, regions, and grape varieties that are appealing to wine geeks. The wines should be available in the United States. The retail price of every wine should be below $50. The retail price of at least 10 of the wines should be below $20.

ChatGPT

Certainly! Here’s a curated wine list for your restaurant that includes sparkling wines, white wines, red wines, rosé, and orange wines. All the wines listed are available in the United States, and the retail price of each wine is below $50. Additionally, at least 10 of the wines are priced below $20.

Sparkling Wines:

  1. Prosecco - Nino Franco Rustico, Veneto, Italy (Glera)
  2. Cava - Raventos i Blanc “L’Hereu,” Penedès, Spain (Macabeo, Xarel·lo, Parellada)
  3. Crémant d’Alsace - Domaine Bruno Sorg, Alsace, France (Pinot Blanc, Pinot Gris, Chardonnay, Riesling)
  4. Franciacorta - Monte Rossa Brut, Lombardy, Italy (Chardonnay, Pinot Noir, Pinot Blanc)
  5. Cremant de Loire - Domaine de Landreau, Loire Valley, France (Chenin Blanc, Chardonnay)
  6. Sekt - Schloss Lieser Riesling Brut, Mosel, Germany (Riesling)
  7. English Sparkling Wine - Nyetimber Classic Cuvée, England (Chardonnay, Pinot Noir, Pinot Meunier)
  8. Lambrusco - Cleto Chiarli e Figli Vecchia Modena Premium, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (Lambrusco Grasparossa)
  9. Australian Sparkling Wine - Jansz Premium Cuvée, Tasmania, Australia (Chardonnay, Pinot Noir, Pinot Meunier)
  10. American Sparkling Wine - Gruet Blanc de Noirs, New Mexico, USA (Pinot Noir, Chardonnay)

White Wines:

  1. Albariño - Bodegas del Palacio de Fefiñanes Albariño, Rías Baixas, Spain
  2. Grüner Veltliner - Weingut Bründlmayer Kamptaler Terrassen, Kamptal, Austria
  3. Assyrtiko - Gaia Thalassitis, Santorini, Greece
  4. Chenin Blanc - Domaine Huet Le Haut-Lieu Sec, Vouvray, France
  5. Vermentino - Argiolas Costamolino, Sardinia, Italy
  6. Riesling - Dr. Loosen “Dr. L” Riesling, Mosel, Germany
  7. Sauvignon Blanc - Cloudy Bay Sauvignon Blanc, Marlborough, New Zealand
  8. Chardonnay - Jean-Marc Pillot Chassagne-Montrachet, Burgundy, France
  9. Viognier - Yalumba Y Series Viognier, South Australia
  10. Garganega - Suavia Soave Classico, Veneto, Italy
  11. Verdejo - Shaya Old Vines Verdejo, Rueda, Spain
  12. Gewürztraminer - Trimbach Gewurztraminer, Alsace, France
  13. Pinot Grigio - Alois Lageder “Riff” Pinot Grigio, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy
  14. Torrontés - Susana Balbo Crios Torrontés, Salta, Argentina
  15. Marsanne/Roussanne - Tablas Creek Patelin de Tablas Blanc, Paso Robles, USA
  16. Arneis - Bruno Giacosa Roero Arneis, Piedmont, Italy
  17. Soave - Pieropan Soave Classico, Veneto, Italy
  18. Muscadet - Domaine de la Pépière Clos des Briords, Muscadet Sèvre et Maine, France
  19. Malvasia - La Spinetta Vermentino Vigneto Biancospino, Tuscany, Italy
  20. Grillo - Feudo Montoni Grillo della Timpa, Sicily, Italy

Red Wines:

  1. Pinot Noir - Domaine Serene Yamhill Cuvée, Willamette Valley, USA
  2. Cabernet Sauvignon - Ridge Vineyards Estate Cabernet Sauvignon, Santa Cruz Mountains, USA
  3. Syrah/Shiraz - Two Hands Gnarly Dudes Shiraz, Barossa Valley, Australia
  4. Nebbiolo - Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco, Piedmont, Italy
  5. Tempranillo - Bodegas Muga Reserva, Rioja, Spain
  6. Sangiovese - Felsina Chianti Classico Berardenga, Tuscany, Italy
  7. Grenache - Sine Qua Non “Piranha Waterdance” Grenache, California, USA
  8. Malbec - Achával-Ferrer Malbec Mendoza, Argentina
  9. Zinfandel - Turley “Old Vines” Zinfandel, California, USA
  10. Merlot - Château Lalande-Borie Saint-Julien, Bordeaux, France
  11. GSM Blend - Clos du Caillou “Les Quartz” Châteauneuf-du-Pape, Rhône Valley, France
  12. Carmenere - Montes Alpha Carmenere, Colchagua Valley, Chile
  13. Aglianico - Feudi di San Gregorio Rubrato Aglianico, Campania, Italy
  14. Côtes du Rhône - Guigal Côtes du Rhône Rouge, Rhône Valley, France
  15. Cabernet Franc - Domaine Bernard Baudry Chinon Les Granges, Loire Valley, France
  16. Barbera - Vietti Barbera d’Asti Tre Vigne, Piedmont, Italy
  17. Petit Verdot - Robert Hall Petit Verdot, Paso Robles, USA
  18. Nero d’Avola - Planeta Cerasuolo di Vittoria, Sicily, Italy
  19. Cinsault - Domaine de Fontsainte “Gris de Gris” Corbières, Languedoc-Roussillon, France
  20. Mencia - Descendientes de J. Palacios Pétalos, Bierzo, Spain

Rosé:

  1. Rosé of Pinot Noir - Soter Vineyards North Valley Rosé, Willamette Valley, USA
  2. Provence Rosé - Château d’Esclans Whispering Angel, Côtes de Provence, France
  3. Grenache-based Rosé - Bonny Doon Vin Gris de Cigare, California, USA
  4. Syrah-based Rosé - La Spinetta Il Rosé di Casanova, Tuscany, Italy
  5. Tempranillo-based Rosé - Muga Rosado, Rioja, Spain

Orange Wines:

  1. Ribolla Gialla - Movia Ribolla, Gorizia, Slovenia
  2. Malvasia - Radikon Slatnik, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italy
  3. Pinot Gris - J. Brix Skin Contact Pinot Gris, Santa Barbara County, USA
  4. Gewürztraminer - Donkey & Goat Stone Crusher, California, USA
  5. Rkatsiteli - Schuchmann Wines Rkatsiteli Qvevri, Kakheti, Georgia

Please note that availability may vary, and it’s always a good idea to check with local wine distributors for the specific vintages and availability of these wines. Cheers!

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TIL SQN is widely available and $50 (or was 2 years ago)

Yeah of course I’m not going to go through this list and say it was perfectly executed with no flaws, misses, or mistakes…but considering it took a total of one minute to produce I’d say it’s pretty solid

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I can pick lots of nits with it, but the one that gets me is out of 10 sparkling wines, not a single actual champagne?

The second list is much better!

Fun stuff.

I’d ask it how it determined what “geeky” was. It obviously had criteria; what are they?

I am reminded of the old saying about the dancing bear: it isn’t impressive so much because it dances well but that it dances at all. I have honestly not been impressed by any of the CHAT GPT output I have seen.

Wines Marcus likes.

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Small production allocated California, Oregon, Washington (red/white/rose/sparkling) and also at least 3 wines from SBC in the group. It put in Caymus and I asked it to replace it with a wine with allocation and small production.
Vintage, Winery, Wine Name, Variety, Vineyard, Location, Points (abbreviate critic or publication), suggested restaurant price

Red Wines:

  1. 2017 Rhys Vineyards Horseshoe Vineyard Pinot Noir, Pinot Noir, Horseshoe Vineyard, Santa Cruz Mountains, California, JS 93 points, $120-$150
  2. 2015 Sine Qua Non “Pajarito del Amor” Syrah, Syrah, Eleven Confessions Vineyard, Santa Barbara County, California, RP 96 points, $400-$500
  3. 2018 Lioco Michaud Vineyard Pinot Noir, Pinot Noir, Michaud Vineyard, Santa Cruz Mountains, California, WE 92 points, $80-$100
  4. 2015 Arnot-Roberts Que Syrah Vineyard Syrah, Syrah, Que Syrah Vineyard, Sonoma Coast, California, JD 94 points, $100-$130
  5. 2017 Rivers-Marie Panek Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Sauvignon, Panek Vineyard, St. Helena, Napa Valley, California, AG 95 points, $200-$250

White Wines:

  1. 2018 Sandhi Wines Bentrock Chardonnay, Chardonnay, Bentrock Vineyard, Sta. Rita Hills, Santa Barbara County, California, WS 94 points, $90-$120
  2. 2017 Domaine Serene Evenstad Reserve Chardonnay, Chardonnay, Willamette Valley, Oregon, WE 93 points, $80-$100
  3. 2016 Chanin Wine Co. Los Alamos Vineyard Chardonnay, Chardonnay, Los Alamos Vineyard, Santa Barbara County, California, RP 92 points, $60-$80
  4. 2019 Eyrie Vineyards Estate Chardonnay, Chardonnay, Eyrie Vineyards Estate, Dundee Hills, Willamette Valley, Oregon, JD 91 points, $70-$90
  5. 2017 Ryme Cellars His Vineyard Vermentino, Vermentino, His Vineyard, Carneros, California, WE 90 points, $50-$70

Rosé Wines:

  1. 2019 Scribe Winery Rosé of Pinot Noir, Pinot Noir, Carneros, California, VN 92 points, $40-$60
  2. 2018 Dirty and Rowdy Familiar Mourvèdre Rosé, Mourvèdre, California, JD 91 points, $50-$70
  3. 2020 Tercero Mourvèdre Rosé, Mourvèdre, Santa Barbara County, California, WS 90 points, $40-$60
  4. 2019 Division Winemaking Company Rosé of Pinot Noir, Pinot Noir, Willamette Valley, Oregon, WE 89 points, $40-$60

Sparkling Wines:

  1. Ultramarine Blanc de Blancs Sparkling Wine, California, JS 95 points, $150-$200
  2. Argyle Winery Extended Tirage Brut Sparkling Wine, Willamette Valley, Oregon, WE 92 points, $80-$100
  3. Domaine Carneros by Taittinger “Le Rêve” Blanc de Blancs Sparkling Wine, Carneros, Napa Valley, California, WS 94 points, $120-$150
  4. Iron Horse Vineyards “Wedding Cuvée” Sparkling Wine, Green Valley, Sonoma County, California, JD 91 points, $60-$80
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Who knew “His” was the vineyard name?

-Al

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What a difference it makes to ask the right question :+1:

There are some wines that survived the filter, we can call them “AI favorites”

Nyetimber, Classic Cuvée
Pieropan, La Rocca Soave Classico
Domaine Huet, Le Mont Sec Vouvray
Bonny Doon Vineyard, Vin Gris de Cigare (I know that Randall Grahm sold some years ago but I still wonder what he would think about being an AI favorite :wink: )

and some producers as well

Produttori del Barbaresco
E. Guigal
Sine Qua Non
Château d’Esclans
Radikon

Those “suggested retail prices” are extremely optimistic. If assembled in real life, I’d expect the prices to double.

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:roll_eyes:

Restaurant! I’m curious where if it gets its info from scraping multiple sites or actually understands restaurant pricing. The 2020 thing is interesting. It was suggesting stuff like 2021 SQN 17th Nail when I asked for 2020, 2021,22 etc. it also calculates super basic sums incorrectly very often: