Aged Chateauneuf-du-Pape

WINE TALK
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I agree with Pierre-Yves, but to expand a bit: 00, 01, 04, and 06 suit my palate much better than 03, 05, or 07.

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Listen to Gerhard and Robert. 1999, 00, 01 and 04 are all drinking super.

Had a Pegau 99 with rack of Lamb for Valentines Day and it was sublime.

The 04 was not as hyped as the others but they are just as good now.

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Last 2 bottles of 2001 Beaucastel were less than inspiring, but that was about a year ago.

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My bottle of 2001 Clos des Papes, last year, was not up to some of the big hurrahs that I’ve seen posted about the wine.

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Had a 2005 Pegau last Saturday. Seems to be fully mature and may not last more than a few years more at peak. Was already showing a bit of bricking. Tannins were completely smoothed out and nice bacon and smoke. If this is typical of 2005 would not hold any more than 2-3 years more.

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Dave: Greetings…I see you are relatively new to the Board and maybe, new to wine. You have gotten some very nice advice from some serious Chateauneuf drinkers. While none of your choices are truly “aged”, I think of these, the 2006 would be your best choice. As people have mentioned, and I agree…It seems that the “odd number” vintages, especially 2003, and 2007, have been much riper. The 2004, 2006, and 2008 are a bit more restrained in style. You need to try a few from each to see where your preferences lie. As far as aging, I fall into the “8-20” year school. We opened a 2001 Mont Olivet for Valentine’s day and it was a beautiful match with a Flannery New York. As an aside, I still feel that Chateauneuf remains one of the great bargains in today’s wine market. flirtysmile


Cheers!
Marshall [cheers.gif]

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The 2001 Mont Olivet is available for $45: http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/clos+du+mont+olivet/2001/usa

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Sadly I discovered an 03 CNDP is my stuff over the wknd. I thought I had drunk all those up. If they were praised at one point, they’ve been disappointing, and deteriorating ever since. I too, didn’t agree with the idea that 01 was an off vintage. I’ve loved the ones I’ve had from that year.

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For OP: if you can’t find a suitable aged CNDP, try a ten year old CdR from one of the better producers or a good village bottling like Vacqueryas or Rasteau. Those will be similar and have some resemblance to CNDP.

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The 2001s CDNPs are starting to show well, the 2003 heat made it hard for many to produce a balanced wine that had longevity.

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98 Charvin is in an excellent spot to drink now - but that doesn´t mean there is any hurry … it will remain fine for another 5-7 years …
so you shouldn´t, but you can … [cheers.gif]

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None of my 03 CdPs show much sign of breaking up, though they are certainly more advanced at age 12 than a CdP from a vintage like 01 (but no one claimed that the 03s would make old bones). My sense of these from the beginning has been that the controversy over them is stylistic. If you liked them when they were first bottled, you will be liking them now. If you thought they were over the top then, the way they aged will not have changed your mind. But the years won’t have resolved the argument. For a lot of them, I’m in the middle. It’s never the vintage I prefer from any producer. But for producers I like, it’s worth seeing what they’ve done. The ones that were really controversial on the Parker board–Clos des Papes and Vieux Donjon for example–are still what they were and still not to my taste, but I’m sure those who liked them once still do.

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This is nonsense.
2005 Pegau - if a sound bottle and well kept further - is not at peak now and will maybe outlive you if you are 50+

If it´s already really bricking the bottle was probably not ok.