A week in France (Burgundy, Northern Rhône)

I’m turning 40 later this year which is no biggie but it provided a good reason to make a trip to France with three buddies of mine, including forumites @Otto_Forsberg and @Mikko_R. The main theme was to wine and dine well for seven nights but naturally we also visites several wineries, 11 to be exact. Now eventually Otto will create his own thread with his otherwordly thorough and detailed descriptions but while we wait for that I thought I could make picture-heavy write-ups of my known. Not sure if I will ever be able to finish it though as life is plenty hectic with the work and two small children. We shall see, no promises.

The trip turned out to be a rather unforgettable one for many reasons. As three of us are living a very hectic life with small children there is little to no ”own time” to speak of. As such it was pretty special to spend a whole week away from work, our families and constantly reading news about all the crap happening around the world. Sure the food, wine and scenery were great but just the quality time with the boys and the temporary sense of freedom were a lot for me.

The one restaurant where I absolutely wanted to take Otto and our fourth buddy was Hotel des Bains, a rather old family-owned restaurant in Charavines, a commune in the Isère department not that far away from say Voiron, of Chartreuse fame of course. The initial plan was to have both lunch and dinner there. Alas, as Europcar did a very sh!tty job and we had to wait roughly 45mins to get the sweet Mercedes minivan we had paid for we missed the lunchtime and only made it to the restaurant as last customers where leaving. To make the most out of a poor situation we bought a bottle of wine to go and asked for any place that would sell us anything to eat post 3pm. That place was an epicerie in the next village that really only had some local charcuterie and cheese. As it was only four hours or so to go until the dinner we were not too sad though. We checked in our hotel (Beau Rivage) which is right by the Paladru lake and got some glasses from the reception and were good to go.

  • 2015 Domaine de Montille Volnay 1er Cru Les Brouillards - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Volnay 1er Cru (17.5.2025)
    A very enjoyable and fairly expressive and vibrant nose of ripeish yet savory cherry-driven fruit, earthy tones and some appropriate wood. Not primary anymore, at a nice harmonious stage aromatically. On the palate has some chewiness and size to it but it’s pretty damn impeccably balanced with good structure and very good freshness (12.5%!). Packs a good grip and definitely has plenty of room to develop further.

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Lac de Paladru is not big but it is plenty pretty. Late-April is before the tourist season and it was not very warm and the village didn’t feel all that alive but there was one bar open and it seemed to attract a lot of people looking for a beer or something else to drink. We had a round as well but as Chartreuse is omnipresent in the region we couldn’t resist the temptation of the 9éme, the terrific mid-strength iteration of this fine beverage. Unfortunately it was only the first of three rounds that day.

For Hotel des Bains we had a great plan in terms of what we wish to drink. Bacchus wasn’t kind to us, however, as the Champagne and Pinot we were asking for were sold out and even the white Rougeard was not the vintage listed online. As such we had to improvise and perhaps the wines didn’t quite rock the way we had expected. That is not to say that they sucked, though.

  • 2018 Clos Rougeard (Foucault) Saumur Blanc Brézé - France, Loire Valley, Anjou-Saumur, Saumur (17.5.2025)
    Very restrained initially, took its time to get going. On the nose citrusy with beeswax, iodine and cereal. On the palate broad and heady with good acidity. A powerhouse that just lingers on the palate. A really firm wine. While I might prefer a cooler vintage this is really well put together and improved nicely over dinner.
  • 2016 Sylvain Cathiard Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Aux Thorey - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru (17.5.2025)
    Immensely beautiful on the nose with ripe, sweet-fruited cherry fruit that just fills the nostrils. Surprisingly fruit-forward, the woody and earthy notes are clearly playing the second fiddle. On the palate rich yet airy with good tannic grip. Quite concentrated but not heavy. Very youthful and a bit heady but really good.
  • 2018 Bérêche et Fils Champagne Grand Cru Mailly - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (17.5.2025)
    A properly rosé color. A restrained nose with faint toastiness, strawberry, red cherries and lemon zest. On the palate it is bone dry, compact and zesty as hell with very high acidity. Quite primary and reserved at the moment in a very linear style. Tight and fairly powerful.

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A terrific, no-nonse classic foie gras.

Scallops in a sauce to die for.

Tournedos Rossini, just as hedonistic as it should be. Certainly didn’t leave any room for dessert…

…which is why we ordered the day’s second round of Chartreuse. Not this one though, but rather again the 9ème. However as the somm was either sorry for the missing wines or just liked us he brought the green VEP bottle to our table and gave us very large pours gratis. We certainly wouldn’t complain, but it undoubtedly played a role in the trip’s only hangover of any kind.

Despite things not going quite as hoped when it comes to the wines this was another great dinner in Hotel des Bains and look forward to many more. The atmosphere and the service are always great, as is the food.

Next up: Burgundy.

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I stayed at Beau Rivage my first time in France (I am assuming you are referring to the charming place in Condeieu) and the restaurant there was fabulous. Of course, this was many years ago so YMMV.

Enjoy your trip!

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It’s a different one, Charavines is roughly an hour’s drive from Condrieu towards the Alps. I reckon Beau Rivage (beautiful shore) is a rather common name in France. We did drive past the one in Condrieu again this time, but didn’t stay there or nearby as dinner options were scarce in the area.

Our first winery visit in Burgundy was Naudin-Ferrand in the Hautes Côtes. I had no prior experience with the producer but Otto had talked positively of the wines and arranged the visit. We tasted a good number of 2023s including Aligotés, Hautes Cotes whites and reds, a CdN Villages and the NSG 1er Cru Les Damodes. They have both natural and more conventional wines but to me they are all super bright and unadulterated with low ABV (12.5% mostly) and great freshness to them. Claire was a really wonderful host and a kind and radiant person. I really enjoyed the old vine Aligoté (Le Clou 34) and the Damodes but would happily have almost any of their wines in my cellar.

To say a couple of words about visiting wineries in Burgundy, first of all fixing them is not that easy. We contacted maybe 30-40 and ended up visiting six in total. Many responded by saying that they either do not take visitors at all or not after February as time is already spent in the vineyards. Some didn’t respond at all and one (I think it was Gouges) offered 3-wine tasting packages for a fee. In the end we got a ”full schedule” that we were very happy with, though, and there were some late responders so there would have been potential for more.

The second aspect is the number of wines to taste. Some have plenty and some very few. The third one then is purchases and clearly it is not uncommon that there is either nothing left to sell or the winery just doesn’t do any cellar door sales.

Right away we adopted the habit of asking the vignerons for tips where to have lunch. Claire suggested we try L’Auberge du Coteau in the quiet village of Villars-Fontaine. Definitely off the beaten path, probably we would never end up there on our own. The value was quite fantastic at 21.50€ for a three course lunch menu. The quality is on point too as gazpacho, bavette and the creme brûlée were all on point. Wine list is not at all Burgundy-focused due to the beef theme and indeed we ended up with the classic Bandol from Pibarnon. The only wine on the trip that I apparently don’t have a note on, it was as expected, ie rich, structured and heady with a lot to chew on but still very enjoyable. Happy to have in the cellar but not going to open for another ten years at least.



Apparently I suck at taking photographs or alternatively I was too much into living in the moment (or the mild hangover had something to do with it) as I have nothing really to show from our visit to Domaine Dujac. Jeremy welcomed us together with a winemaking couple from Paso Robles and a guy from Australia. He explained that he loves to receive visitors but obviously has limited time for it. Yet he was in no rush, showing a bit of vineyard, talking a lot about his philosophy there and in the cellars and then offering a VERY comprehensive tasting including a number of 2023s and also many older vintages going back to 1999. I had never had a Dujac wine before but was thoroughly impressed, especially of how long-lived they are. Jeremy’s generosity and hospitality were equally impressive and I am just very grateful for the visit. One thing that Jeremy said stuck with me: ”there is usually some really wrong decision to take when it comes to the winemaking process but other than that there is a number of different right decisions to choose from. Don’t trust a winemaker who says that there is only one right way to do things.” As for the wines tasted - mostly Grands Crus - Otto obviously has a long TN for each of them so stay tuned for those and his thoughts.

After Dujac we had to rush to make it to our visit at Benoit Moreau in Chassagne. It is a brand new winery in a rather industrial area outside the town, next to PYCM and Paul Pillot. Clearly these newer operations are about practicality and efficiency, which is not hard to get, but there is not much to encourage one to take photos. Benoit has only had his own business for a number of years after the family business (Bernard Moreau et Fils) was split between him and his brother Alex. I have had some of the family wines and the stylistic difference is stark. Benoit’s wines are absolutely electric with a somewhat singular acid-driven style and minimal oak imprint. Sort of like Chablis made in Chassagne, perhaps, these also differ from neighbour PYCM’s wines. On 1er Cru level the differences between vineyards are crystal clear due to the transparent winemaking - there is the producer style but it is not overtly strong in the sense that there would be a tiresome sameness to the wines. The quality is ultra high and fans of such style should buy without hesitance. Les Grandes Ruchottes is clearly the star of the range (”my Grand Cru”, says Benoit) but also priced as such. By the way the stylistic difference with Ramonet’s version is huge, I think I prefer Benoit here. Also the reds were very nice and I reckon they could be interesting values, as Chassagne Rouge tends to be. Benoit is a super nice guy and even promised some purchases on our future visits. This is a superstar in the making, if he is already not there.

After a rather hectic agenda (2+ hours drive and three winery visits) it was time to relax and head by foot for what would be the only disappointing dinner of the trip. The original Aprés du Clocher in Pommard was a nice casual restaurant with cheap Coche and experienced staff that didn’t hesitate show some character to make the experience more personal and memorable. In my understanding the owner sold the restaurant and opened Au Fil du Clos in Meursault. It is an elegant-looking place right next to a vineyard and across the street from Roulot.

I opened the visually impressive (size, material) winelist and right away spotted a nice Champagne and a cheap Lamy-Caillat Chassagne. No soup for us, both sold out. It happens, but what ground my gears was that the somm mentioned it very matter of factly, without offering any guidance for good alternative options so we were pretty much on our own. Overall the service wasn’t very personal, it felt like the waiting stuff are working there, no enthusiasm to be sensed, which is a stark contrast to many other restaurants on our trip and my experience with the restaurant in Pommard. Anyhow the Coches were no longer values so we ended up ordering a Roulot after some debate. We picked a Champagne and Volnay as well but the vibes were off already.

  • 2015 Franck Bonville Champagne Grand Cru Cuvée Les Belles Voyes - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru (17.5.2025)
    Deep yellow color. Rich and ripe on the nose with apple and mirabelle fruits, some autolytic notes and a vegetal hint. On the palate it has a gentle mousse and a rich, round mouthfeel. Lowish acidity but not flabby. A decent drink but a product of its vintage: ripe and not the most focused.

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A horrible experiment of trying to do something modern with escargots. An egg?? Raw cauliflower???

This was one of if not the weakest restaurant wine of our trip. As I mentioned to the somm that I would have expected quite a bit more she shrugged her shoulders and said something along the likes of ”some people really like Roulot and then there are many who don’t think much of the wines”, sort of indicating that while it’s their neighbour she is not at all a fan herself. I discussed this with a friend who is a bit of a White Burgundy fiend and he said that the recent vintages have not at all been strong for this domaine and he has completely stopped buying them. I haven’t noticed any talk of this kind here on WB and also on CT the notes seem positive for even this very wine.

  • 2020 Domaine Roulot Meursault Les Luchets - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault (17.5.2025)
    Restrained on the nose with yellow, ripeish fruit flavors and mild oaky and buttery tones. On the palate extremely tame with low flavor intensity and weak acidity. Flabby and uninspiring but without anything that would clearly indicate it being a faulty bottle. A horrible value.

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A turning point: from here on out the food got increasingly better and this quail dish was already well cooked without much unnecessary flair. Plenty of comfortable flavor here.

  • 2019 Domaine Jean-Marc / Thomas Bouley Volnay - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Volnay (17.5.2025)
    The nose is ripeish as expected but not jammy or over the top. Wonderfully savory and packed with good cherry fruit. On the palate rich for a Volnay but again manages to stay balanced and civilized. While not complex it is very tasty with good drinkability.

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The signature Mousse tiède d’Époisses is what remains from the old restaurant. So hedonistic, does a lot to save what damage was done earlier.

An equally hedonistic super chocolatey dessert.

So while I would not recommend this place in a region of full of nice restaurants it was not a total disaster. Fortunately it was all uphill from here and already the next day there would be everyone’s favorite Le Soufflot waiting for us. Also there will be some photos from winery visits, thank goodness.

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Excellent notes, I need to recreate such a trip one of these days.

Have definitely heard similar rumblings about Roulot. Then again I’ve also heard the same from other collectors about many other eponymous domaines where’s there’s been change over the years….who knows. Have not had any recent vintages except for the Bourgognes off of wine lists.

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Talking about contrast, after having visited Benoit Moreau Savigny-lès-Beaune’s biodynamic stalwart Chandon des Briailles offers quite a change of pace. I had no idea that they are actually connected to the Chandons of the Moët & Chandon fame but that we learned early on our visit. The house, the yard and the garden are quite easy on the eye, it’s a very pleasant and serene place to arrive to.

We initially got a tasting of four reds which was followd by a couple of whites from the barrel in the very old cellar (from the 14th century?). The reds are very serious and structured with moderate alcohol levels. They are not showy and our host Claire did stress that they both age well and need plenty of air after opening, often showing their best the next day. I was immediately convinced, these are very much up my alley stylistically. I guess the Savigny Lavieres is one for earlier drinking and the Île des Vergelesses - and the Cortons of course - more for the cellar but I would be surprised if anything from this address needs to enjoyed young. The whites had quite a singular character, emphasizing minerality and being quite restrained when it comes to the fruit expression.

While the tasting of four wines was a compact one the cellar tour was very cool and there was absolutely no rush. We felt very welcome.

The older cute dog of the family.

The younger cute dog of the family, a playful fella.

After previous visits we were expecting there to be no purchases here either. Not to worry, CdB reserves 5% of their production for cellar door sales which take place in the small ”chapel”. While the prices offer no discount compared to Beaune shops there are plenty of back vintages available for the same price as new releases which allow for some interesting finds. We bought some back vintages of Île des Vergelesses quite happily.

There are dozens of wine shops in Beaune and it will take a full day to visit all of them, or more. The second one for us - Le Comptoir des Tontons - was a great one. Full and empty bottles everywhere with just enough space to move around, this is a classic authentic French wine shop without any polish. For 30 years this shop has championed natural wine, way before it became popular. This means that the cellar is full of gems and many can only be discovered via dialogue with Pepita, the owner. She got a bit mad when I first grabbed my phone to make sense of L’Anglore’s various bottlings. We got over that and ended up spending more than an hour talking with Pepita. In the end I was quite happy with my score (the bottles pictured).

Another restaurant rec’d by a vigneron, Benoit Moreau this time. Anthocyane in Beaune is another fantastic find with super high level cooking, nice winelist, terrific service and great casual atmosphere. Also very nice 80’s soundtrack.

Guillemot has been praised here so I was eager to try and expectations were exceeded. Super stuff.

  • 2021 Domaine Pierre Guillemot Savigny-lès-Beaune Les Grands Picotins - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Savigny-lès-Beaune (17.5.2025)
    A most pretty, perfumed red fruited nose with some earthy tones. On the palate on the lighter side with good savory fruit and great freshness. A really classic Savigny, extremely food-friendly and honest. There is a lot of joy in this bottle.

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Cannot make asparagus any better.

French comfort food at its finest (canard, obviously).

I look forward to returning to both the restaurant and the shop. We also visited nearby a small shop called L’Arche des Vins where we picked up a bottle of Benoit Moreau’s Saint-Aubin.

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Fantastic thread, and happy birthday man! For someone like me with ADHD, those pictures were critical, lol. I particularly enjoyed the dog photos. This is great livin! I’m in the South of France on Wednesday with a group of buddies for cycling, dining and wining, in that order!

PS. Can we use AI to a summarize Otto’s wonderful notes to a few words and points!? Or, maybe Otto is AI. Hmmmm.

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Nice. I love what Vincent Guillemot is doing at his little domaine. I buy Serpentieres and Narbantons every vintage. My guilty pleasure in Burgundy. I don’t really concern myself as much with price here but this is ALWAYS a great value. Nice writeup too.

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Thanks, enjoy your trip. Lol, I’m loving the idea of using AI to shorten Otto’s notes to something more palatable. He’s not AI though, no AI would snore as loudly as he does.

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Another cellar photo as there was not much more to photograph on our visit to Gérard Mugneret in Vosne-Romanée. At the same time there was a young French winemaker to be visiting as well. The guy was apparently contending for some kind of a father of the year trophy as after the visit we found out that he had left his max three year old daughter out in the rain to wait for him. Cool dude.

Pascal Mugneret seemed like a true no-nonsense farmer type. We only got to taste three wines, a Savigny-lès-Beaune Aux Gravains and two village level Vosne-Romanées from 2023 that were tasting surprisingly well, although I believe the bottles had been open for a while. They were quite rich wines with a bit of oak showing but overall pretty tasty. I said to my buddy Mikko who is all about Syrah that I reckon we are close to his preferences here given the certain Syrahness of these wines.

A really lovely dog here as well. The good boy approached us calmly, hoping to be petted which we gladly did despite him being quite wet.

I had been to Le Soufflot once before and was dying to return, equally for the food and the wine. As far as vibes go the difference with Au Fil du Clos is big. Here the somm runs the show with great confidence and heart and everything around him works like a charm. Here you are instantly warmly greeted and amuse bouches start to roll out very quickly. We wanted to have the 2020 Coche Meursault (as seemed to do every other table as well) and the 2002 de Montille Rugiens but, alas, the latter was sold out. The somm immediately pointed out that he just got a delivery of the 2013 Clos de la Maréchale that perhaps would be interesting for us. While it didn’t set the world on fire it drank well, suited the food nicely and made our life easy. Much appreciated.

  • 2013 Jacques-Frédéric Mugnier Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Clos de la Maréchale - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru (17.5.2025)
    Timid on the nose with savory red-cherry driven nose that has left the primary stage. Slightly herbal but not vegetal. On the palate medium-bodied with nicely firm texture but fairly kind tannins. Far from flashy, it is a rather restrained expression but plenty harmonious. Could use a bit more intensity and grip.
  • 2020 Coche-Dury Meursault - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault (17.5.2025)
    An amazing detailed nose of tangy lemon and some riper yellow fruit notes, some judicious smoky wood and iodine. Superly bright. On the palate it feels lightish at first but quickly starts to gain weight and texture. Very salty with a great tangy edge. Milder on the entry but tightens up nicely towards finish. Really good intensity.

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A very fresh and elegant starter of herring (rollmops??). The oily dressing was superb.

Rather tasty meat-filled dumplings that matched the Mugnier well.

”Strawberry milkshake” - brilliant!

Not pictured were the amuse bouches including mindblowingly good gougères, easily the best of the many we had on our trip. Overall this was another very nice visit to Le Soufflot and I look forward to more in the future. No surprise Benoit Moreau mentioned it as his favorite place in the area.

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Curious if you remember what you paid for the 2020 Coche-Dury Meursault?

140€.

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Really enjoying this thread and a very happy birthday.

Will hope to organize something like this for 45 later this year.

Wondeful thread and such great pictures and commentary. Thank you! Excited to see N Rhone.

Nice. We visited Chandon de Briailles in 2018 and it was already tough then, but I can imagine even tougher to get appointments now. I’m a fan of the wines and I think they’ve gotten more approachable over the years, at least in comparison to the past.

Happy Birthday! Thanks so much for making time to share your impressions.

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Congrats on a great trip! Love me some L’Anglore!

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Happy birthday Ilkka! That’s a trip for the ages, middle age to be precise :wink:

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Congrats old man! Sounds like a great trip.

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Great thread, Ilkka, looks and sounds really fun - and a very happy way to celebrate passing 40 - congratulations!

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