While I don’t pray at the temple of Baudry like many do, I found they did a great job with the '18 CB. There is nothing about it approaching anything that would be considered overripe. The Clos Guillot from the same year is probably better.
We should never fall into the trap of judging all wines by an easy narrative about a vintage. You gotta give producers some credit.
This.
Yes, absolutely, 2013 should be avoided at all cost!
I don’t thnk I’ve posted about this producer before:
Dominique Joseph - Le Petit Saint Vincent - Saumur-Champigny - Les Poyeux 2016
Like nearly all Loire red producers today, Dominique Joseph farms organically and this is made in the same style as Antoine Sanzay or Sylvain Dittière’s wines, so very bright, fresh fruit, perfect for esteemed Florida lawyers who don’t like 2018!
Peonies, juniper and very fresh raspberry on the nose, then a mouthful of red fruits, so red cherry, redcurrant and especially raspberry, just broadening midpalate into a smidgen of darker blackberry, before the crisp, acidic finale. Very refreshing with good depth and persistence. Drinking well now but with great potential for the next decade.
It’s not quite on the same level as its better-known peers, but nor is the price (25€) so well worth a try.
Hi Claus, I’m not familiar with the “les Marsaules” bottling — is that new to their range?
It has been in the portfolio many years
Wonderful CF
Les Marsaules is crazy good value for money. I really dig Bel Air’s style.
Hmmmm, interesting. Never heard of it. Where does it fall within their range? (i.e.: CN>GM>CV>Soif)
Just after Grand Mont. It’s a good wine, better value than the top two, made in much the same style.
Hmmm, ok —- that sounds intriguing! I personally feel the Les vingt is excellent for the money, but it’s clearly less serious then the CN and GM. Hopefully I come across this one to try.
So all this is where the thread started…any changes add deletes?
Well it’s become a bit of a rabbit hole! It’s mostly a mix of notes on wines and general chinwag about style and vintage preferences. The only update is the first post, which I alter from time to time when I discover someone new.
Some serious cellar you got there!
Enjoyed last night:
2011 Charles Joguet Chinon Clos du Chêne Vert
Very similar in style to the 2012 and just as good. Raspberries, pepper and cranberry aromas, then a well-proportioned mouthful of the same, plus a bit of redcurrant. Like all Joguets, silky and elegant, well-balanced and just fruity enough to cope with the leanness of the vintage. Not a top year but delicious, perfect right now.
In the EU there is not a big difference in price between Les Marsaules and Les Vingt Lieux-dits but Marsaules is quite a bit more serious. I like the latter a lot too, though.
The REAL serious stuff I buried in the densely populated Riesling Room
If asked l would rather have Bel Air in 2nd tier.
On a higher level than e.g. Olga Raffault
Agreed - I’ve been pondering over that for some time. I’ve done it and also demoted Breton, which although good, is not today at the same level as the others in that category. I’m still in two minds about Roches Neuves, which is at least on the cusp of the second level. I dropped Couly-Dutheil a level too since it really isn’t as good today as Alliet, for example, not even close, although it was in the past.
For the sake of comleteness:
how about La Porte Saint-Jean?
I would see tham at least on par with say Roches Neuves.
