Was this a comment on my post? Then i was replying to matthias note on “unripe” notes which is something that i actually like compared to the notes he mentioned he found in 18, 19 and 20.
For me, the signature taste of Brauneberger Juffer is apricot and from Wehlener Sonnenuhr it is peach, so I am a bit surprised by your comment Howard
very true !!
Huh - my “signature” element for Wehlener Sonnenuhr is a lemon cream note.
Incredibly, I’ve never written a detailed note on a WSU (maybe because I enjoy them so much).
I have a note that mentions peach on a Brauneberger Juffer.
Peach is one of my favorite fruits. Every year, from late May to early September I probably eat over 30 very good, ripe farmers’ market peaches. All that to say, I’m very familiar with the flavor.
This is as good excuse as any to open a WSU tonight.
EDIT: As per my notes, I have noticed white peach (not yellow) in Longuicher Maximiner Herrenberg and over in Pfalz in Ruppertsberger Gaisböhl.
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Funny, any young W-S particularly spätlese is for me a bucket of peach, specifically the vineyard peach of which the season over here is just ending.
I find Haag’s Kabinetts often have less ripe flavors (e.g., citrus) even in warmer vintages, with 2020 being a notable exception. Since I’m often in the mood for riper Kabinetts with stone fruit notes, I buy more Lieser Kabs than F. Haag.
For what it’s worth, we harvested the 2021 Kugel Peter at 84 degrees Oechsle on October 25.
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It has become peachier, and even tropical in recent, warmer years, but for a very long time it was not so “peachy.”
Because it was apricot 
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I meant Wehlener Sonnenuhr, not Juffer.
Something David just said reminded me. I think I know what many mean when they say tropical fruits. I realize it’s very common to use the term. I want to invite everyone however to be more specific for several reasons.
- Citrus fruits are tropical fruits (with subtropical extremes). I don’t think anyone means those when they say tropical. Lemon, Meyer lemon, lime and grapefruit are usually referenced by name. I use chironja too, but that’s just flexing on my part.
- Tropical fruits are very varied in flavor, even setting aside citrus. Acerola is one of the tartest fruits I know for example.
- Beyond citrus, the tropical fruit notes I’ve found most prevalent in Riesling are pineapple and guanábana (soursop). I know others mention mango, coconut and banana, which are of course completely different from each other (and are more to be found in the GKA, BA and TBA range).
- Other tropical notes (not really fruits) I’ve noticed include fresh sugarcane, ginger, jasmine and waxy flowers. I know others mention vanilla.
I think many people when they use Tropical Fruit as a descriptor mean the sweet, non citrus ones. Pawpaw, mango, guava, pineapple, dragon fruit. mangosteen, rambutan, passion fruit etc.
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Pineapple and mango are the ones that most often come to mind when I notice tropical fruits in Riesling. Coconut comes up less often, along with guava and passion fruit.
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That may be what they mean (I agree) but, for example, passion fruits and guavas are not really sweet, which is why they get used in sweet/tart desserts.
Doesn’t matter if they are really sweet - it’s all really about the aromas anyway.
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That 21 Beurer Trollinger is one of my favorite wines of the year. IF it is served chilled which I bet they will not do. Overall a weird array of wines.
no. It referenced an earlier post.
Dropped by my favorite local wine shop today and saw a nice stack of newly arrived vom Boden boxes. An increasingly frequent, and very welcome, sight.
Sitting here with a first glass of 2021 Emrich Schonleber Mineral Riesling trocken. Nose of slate, grey pebbles, primary fruit, rising bread dough, on the palate a deep and impressive immediate impact that quickly retreats behind a good firm structure on the middle with moderate acids on a very long finish that is particularly persistent with stone and honeysuckle notes, as it opens on the midpalate very pure citrus flavors appear- grapefruit vesicles near-bursting with a sleek steely coating keeping all in place. I am going to stop updating this TN now or I will be at it all afternoon. This is getting so amazing…
More to come over the next two days plus I will put it on CT- but same MO as everything else I have had 2021- very deep on flavor and volume, light across the palate, notable acids and then this really wonderful aromatic presentation- heavily floral- on the back end. That last feature is most singular and what is getting me excited about this vintage.
And FWIW - about as good a vintage of this as i have ever seen. Let’s see what the next couple of days brings, but as this appears at retail in the coming weeks I would certainly advise snapping it up. The Dallas allocation never lasts long- and this is not exactly a Riesling town.
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Thanks very much, Tom. We love the Mineral, as well as the GGs, and your note makes me excited for all the Emrich-Schonleber dry wines in 2021.
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