2019 Honig Premiere Napa Valley Rutherford Cabernet

[Daniel_Walsh]

Uhh….no. Honig has been making small production single vineyard cabs for around 25 years as well as PNV lots. Some of which have been exceptional over the years. In the 3 decades I’ve been regularly visiting Napa I’ve been to dozens of wineries that do the same. They make mass produced wines because that’s the business that keeps the lights on and smaller production wines because that’s the art of wine they love. It extends far beyond these two

Recently you stated you have been at this about a year, less than 100 bottles in your cellar and are buying $200+ bottles. Youve got a lot to learn and money cant replace experience. Id suggest considering buying more varied and less pricey wines instead of Instagram worthy bottles. Its a long journey ahead for you

I only started collecting bottles last year, but have been gaining knowledge on wine for years now thanks to my dad. Just because my wine collection is considerably smaller than others on here doesn’t really mean anything at all (to be honest). By the way, I’m not purchasing Instagram worthy bottles so please try better with a dig. And yeah, you’re right, I’m still learning, but wine consumption in my life will only a represent a small blip of my adulthood. Would rather try some really great wines before my next pivot in life which will be happening in a couple of years…

[John_Glas]

Uhh….no. Honig has been making small production single vineyard cabs for around 25 years as well as PNV lots. Some of which have been exceptional over the years. In the 3 decades I’ve been regularly visiting Napa I’ve been to dozens of wineries that do the same. They make mass produced wines because that’s the business that keeps the lights on and smaller production wines because that’s the art of wine they love. It extends far beyond these two

Recently you stated you have been at this about a year, less than 100 bottles in your cellar and are buying $200+ bottles. Youve got a lot to learn and money cant replace experience. Id suggest considering buying more varied and less pricey wines instead of Instagram worthy bottles. Its a long journey ahead for you

I only started collecting bottles last year, but have been gaining knowledge on wine for years now thanks to my dad. Just because my wine collection is considerably smaller than others on here doesn’t really mean anything at all (to be honest). By the way, I’m not purchasing Instagram worthy bottles so please try better with a dig. And yeah, you’re right, I’m still learning, but wine consumption in my life will only a represent a small blip of my adulthood. Would rather try some really great wines before my next pivot in life which will be happening in a couple of years…

Daniel just keep doing what you are doing and enjoy wine. Always going to be a few on this board with negative intentions.

[Marc_Hauser]

Uhh….no. Honig has been making small production single vineyard cabs for around 25 years as well as PNV lots. Some of which have been exceptional over the years. In the 3 decades I’ve been regularly visiting Napa I’ve been to dozens of wineries that do the same. They make mass produced wines because that’s the business that keeps the lights on and smaller production wines because that’s the art of wine they love. It extends far beyond these two

Recently you stated you have been at this about a year, less than 100 bottles in your cellar and are buying $200+ bottles. Youve got a lot to learn and money cant replace experience. Id suggest considering buying more varied and less pricey wines instead of Instagram worthy bottles. Its a long journey ahead for you

I only started collecting bottles last year, but have been gaining knowledge on wine for years now thanks to my dad. Just because my wine collection is considerably smaller than others on here doesn’t really mean anything at all (to be honest). By the way, I’m not purchasing Instagram worthy bottles so please try better with a dig. And yeah, you’re right, I’m still learning, but wine consumption in my life will only a represent a small blip of my adulthood. Would rather try some really great wines before my next pivot in life which will be happening in a couple of years…

You might consider a bit more humility before you make more statements like this: “Wasn’t comparing their Sauvignon Blanc’s, but any of their higher priced Cabernet’s in the around $90-100 would represent rather sub-par QPR considering how many great wines are made above or even below that price point.”

I mean, unless you’ve actually tried Honig’s higher priced wines and can make an informed statement about your opinion of their quality…… (I’m guessing no)

[David_Baum]

Ummm…no. The fact that you’ve been collecting Wines for a year and Have had a chance to taste some nice wines with your dad over the years means a lot. It basically puts you at the very beginning of a long journey. You’re dismissing Wines with a history that could well be longer than your life and that you have no experience with. So go ahead and flex your $200 tastings and bottles or better yet spend another decade or two actually drinking through thousands of wines from decades of vintages. Your opinions will change a dozen on more times. Stick with it kid

[Andy_Sc]

Honig never struck me as a high-end producer. Maybe something has changed but that is a really high price. Always seemed as a good intro to Napa Valley wine.

They’re not and they can be found in supermarkets across the country. Usually priced in the $40-50 range for their main Napa Valley bottling. Perfect for a party/get-together with non-wine enthusiasts as it’s very crowd-pleasing.

So surprised they are trying their hand at the high end game. No one on here are buyers at that price. Who would buy that wine?

I’m not sure if they try it at the high-end game. It’s just a charity auction lot.

[Ian_Dorin]

The Premiere Napa Valley wines are made by many Napa producers for the annual auction event. Always very limited production and very expensive. I think you’re paying for the label and because there are so few.

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Exactly and I highly doubt they’re worth it.

The “paint it black” approach doesn’t really work for the PNV wines, or Honig. Ironically Honig is one of the better brands making scaled production, and they are responsibly farming with a green winery. So to take umbrage with a winery that’s actually doing good things in terms of winemaking and the environment is, to use your Mondavi vs Honig line, ridiculous.

[ray_ormand]

Honig 2016 Premiere Napa Valley on Winebid for $135.

[John_Glas]

They’re not and they can be found in supermarkets across the country. Usually priced in the $40-50 range for their main Napa Valley bottling. Perfect for a party/get-together with non-wine enthusiasts as it’s very crowd-pleasing.

So surprised they are trying their hand at the high end game. No one on here are buyers at that price. Who would buy that wine?

I’m not sure if they try it at the high-end game. It’s just a charity auction lot.

Then why is it at $135 on wine bid?

[John_Glas]

Honig 2016 Premiere Napa Valley on Winebid for $135.

Thought this was a charity auction at $299? Apparently not. Thanks for posting.

[Marc_Hauser]

Honig 2016 Premiere Napa Valley on Winebid for $135.

Thought this was a charity auction at $299? Apparently not. Thanks for posting.

Um, those are two totally different things? Good try at a zinger, though.

[Brian_P]

This thread could be a lot more positive. My guess is that many, many, Napa wineries that own their own vines and have been in business for decades could make an exceptional wine that represents the best half-barrel in the cellar. If someone wants to support the charity, build a relationship with the winery (i.e., it’s likely you could sit down with the owner and the winemaker for a nice tasting with the bottle a few years after purchasing a bottle produced for Premiere) or share a rare bottle with friends, why make any comment other than, “Good for you, supporting wineries with disposable income is an important way to get to know the business and the producers better.” That’s my thought.