2015 Rhones - What are you buying??

[Zachary_Ross]

@Robert Alfert

It was your note that prompted me, in part, to buy this new bottling. I do like the Gilles Cornas very much. Funny that I panned the gamay this past month and was not thrilled with this new bottling either. Our perceptions are so dramatically different that I really am assuming some degree of bottle variation here. My bottle was not bad or damaged, it just was not, in your words, “effusive”.

You know, maybe the clampdown is coming? I opened a 2015 Dumien-Serrette Cornas Patou the other day and it was very tight. This was in sharp contrast to the 2015 Dumien-Serrette Cornas Patou Les Saveaux I drank in early January which, although firm, was gloriously open.

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[DLown]

I just had a 2015 clusel vialliere Cote rotie that was beautiful. Open, on the redder fruit end of spectrum, great acidity, and has all the ingredients to be something great in the future. Highly recommended

[G_Shields]

Thanks David, great timing on your note as this is one Cote Rôtie i’ve been considering from 2015. I get the sense that there might be lift and freshness from this site that sits a little higher up the slope and might be a bit cooler in this hot year…

[Andrew_Kotowski]

Absolutely LOVE Rostaing Côté Roties. This one needed a bit to open up, but I’ve never had a bad Rostaing. At 65 euros on the wine list tonight, I jumped on it.

[Eric_S_n_y_d_e_r]

@Andrew Kotowski

Absolutely LOVE Rostaing Côté Roties. This one needed a bit to open up, but I’ve never had a bad Rostaing. At 65 euros on the wine list tonight, I jumped on it.

Nice price off the list! I dig Rostaing quite a bit, usually a very elegant expression of Côte Rotie. How does the 2015 compare to past vintages? I’ve had the 10 11 and 13.

[Andrew_Kotowski]

Have had several of the flagships, but they’ve always had several years on them (I.e. 2007, but last year), so tough to compare the wine I had last night (massive red fruit, but tannic and needing a good 30 mins to open up) to something in its sweet spot. Definitely a fan.

[IlkkaL]

Just had the 2015 Dard & Ribo Saint-Joseph (rouge) two days ago. Really delicious, highly drinkable with great concentration and ripeness without any weight to speak off. Plenty of sweet blackberry fruit, ground black pepper and stony notes. Low in tannins yet with good grip and lift.

[Robert_M_yers]

Has The main release of Jamet come and gone? What’s out there seems pretty expensive but I haven’t seen anything change availability wise in months it seems.

[Dave_McCloskey]

@Marcus Dean

@Pat Martin

2015 Franck Balthazar Cornas Cuvee Casimir?

Thoughts, thumbs up?

If you can spend a little more and get his Chaillot (old vines from Noel Verset) its worth the extra, but if you cant get that then grab some Casimir as long as you are prepared to give it plenty of time in the cellar to relax the tannic structure.

I just picked up a bottle of the 2011 Franck Balthazar Cornas Chailot. Let the experimenting begin!

[CFu]

@Robert M yers

Has The main release of Jamet come and gone? What’s out there seems pretty expensive but I haven’t seen anything change availability wise in months it seems.

Kermit is picking it up soon, so the US retail release hasn’t occurred yet. Right now it’s all coming from Europe

[Alan_Rath]

@c fu

@Robert M yers

Has The main release of Jamet come and gone? What’s out there seems pretty expensive but I haven’t seen anything change availability wise in months it seems.

Kermit is picking it up soon, so the US retail release hasn’t occurred yet. Right now it’s all coming from Europe

So over $200?

[CFu]

@Alan Rath

@c fu

@Robert M yers

Has The main release of Jamet come and gone? What’s out there seems pretty expensive but I haven’t seen anything change availability wise in months it seems.

Kermit is picking it up soon, so the US retail release hasn’t occurred yet. Right now it’s all coming from Europe

So over $200?

who knows. 2015 Allemand pricing for Kermit’s wholesale is much lower than Euro traders are selling to US brokers.

[Dave_McCloskey]

@Robert M yers

Having not tasted many 15’s my question is the structure and acid there as well? I appreciate John bringing up the counterpoint though. I can handle the ripeness if it has the backbone, lots of 2005/2010 cdp has been great for me because often the framework is there to hold all the fruit.

I thought the recently consumed 2015 Domaine Monier Saint Joseph had plenty of backbone and well structured and balanced. I think it would suit the palates of a lot folks here. Nothing flabby or over ripe in that wine. It showed wonderful complexity and portends to greater things in the future.

[Jayson_Cohen]

Half case of Gilles now in transit to me. Should arrive tomorrow.

My 3 bottles of Durand St Joseph Coteaux arrived today.

[M.Kaplan]

I’m old, bitter, and pissed-off. Fu, Alfert, and you other young turks have belatedly discovered the overlooked, underoaked, and underloved ‘lesser’ appellations and wines of the Northern Rhone and have recently created a feeding frenzy here and elsewhere. My '15 (redacted) allocation was cut from two cases to one (no good deed goes unpunished; won’t make that mistake again…). Go back to whatever fashionable high-points shelf-talker wines that you were drinking before and leave old school Syrah to us old guys who have been buying and enjoying them since before they became fashionable. If you must drink Northern Rhones, confine your Instagram pix to Chapoutier, La, La, La, and their ilk. We’ll die off soon enough; wait your turn. Get off my lawn and stay the hell away from (redacted).

[CFu]

@M.Kaplan

I’m old, bitter, and pissed-off. Fu, Alfert, and you other young turks have belatedly discovered the overlooked, underoaked, and underloved ‘lesser’ appellations and wines of the Northern Rhone and have recently created a feeding frenzy here and elsewhere. My '15 (redacted) allocation was cut from two cases to one (no good deed goes unpunished; won’t make that mistake again…). Go back to whatever fashionable high-points shelf-talker wines that you were drinking before and leave old school Syrah to us old guys who have been buying and enjoying them since before they became fashionable. If you must drink Northern Rhones, confine your Instagram pix to Chapoutier, La, La, La, and their ilk. We’ll die off soon enough; wait your turn. Get off my lawn and stay the hell away from (redacted).

You can help pay for your future grandkid’s college tuition if you decide to sell em off thanks to us!

[Robert.A.Jr]

@M.Kaplan

I’m old, bitter, and pissed-off. Fu, Alfert, and you other young turks

Lol, I think I’m closer to your age than Fu’s age - I just look more pretty and fit - and I got all my allocations cut too, once the IG crowd started chasing Juge, Levet, Gonon, et al!

[Dave_McCloskey]

Robert:

Since you like the Levet Amethyste you may like this:

Levet Côte-Rôtie Les Journaries: TastingNotes - Bright violet. Smoke- and pepper-accented dark berry and cherry pit aromas pick up suggestions of game, licorice and pungent flowers with aeration. Sweet and expansive on the palate, offering concentrated black and blue fruit and spicecake flavors that unfold steadily as the wine opens up. Finishes strikingly long and smooth, featuring lingering smoked meat and candied dark fruit notes, supple tannins and an emphatic echo of candied flowers.

[Arv_R]

Has anyone seen either Guigal or Chapoutier’s various 2015 Crozes bottlings get released?

[Zachary_Ross]

@Arv R

Has anyone seen either Guigal or Chapoutier’s various 2015 Crozes bottlings get released?

No, but I tend to look the other way on these.