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Thanks Jeff for your views! Appreciated! Ref number of posts, I understand you had to cut because of the size of your input. So I am not offended…
I also would like to have your take on the 2008 that you may have tasted from bottles when you were in Bordeaux. As can be seen from another thread, there is a big debate on whether the vintage (John Gilman praising it while others poopooh it. It is important to me because it is the last vintage I bought significantly for price reasons and it is always interesting to have the take from people with different palates and tastes.
I am intrigued to understand what impact the 08 wines had on your palate who seems to appreciate modern style wines (akin to RP).
Thanks for the comments. Although I am not sure if Alan is discussing about how many posts I made, or the lack of responses.
I am sure it is no surprise to discover I like Bordeaux. 
Putting together a nice set of notes, explaining how the wines taste and feel took time. It would be interesting if more people commented on the wines and notes, asked questions or discussed the region. At the end of the day, I am happy just to share my thoughts and see people reading them.
*** Note to A Songe… I have always been a fan of 20008 Bordeaux. Several outstanding wines were produced that remain well priced. I bought them for my own cellar. There are numerous tasting notes on my site from barrel and in bottle. You can read the in-bottle notes here. http://www.thewinecellarinsider.com/wine-topics/2008-bordeaux-bottle-reviews-left-bank/
I retasted several 2008 wines when I was in Bordeaux in April. As good as they are, they are much lighter and less concentrated than 2009 and 2010. You can see this when they tasted against their younger versions.
All that being said, my guess is, 2010 will be shockingly high priced. I recall taking a lot of heat when I said buy 2005 because the next great vintage will make 2005 look cheap. I am sad to make the following guess, but due to the ugly combination of currency valuations and price hikes, 2010 could end up making 2009 look cheap! That is not a pretty picture.
Jeff -
once again, great notes and thanks for posting.
if you had to summarize beyond the elite 8 - where are the successes? surprises?
your scores seem lower for 2010 - who did better than 2009?
thanks,
Scott
i’m confused - exactly where do i find the web address to see the fun pictures and detailed notes? oh wait! nathan found it. don’t know how i could have missed it…
Both! The added comments each time bring your thread back to the top like a “bump,” but yet there are so few comments about them.
alan
Thanks for the notes - I assume you meant 2010 could make 2009 look cheap.
Alan… I agree. But I like Bordeaux and I’m happy to share my notes with anyone interested in reading them.
Sadly, yes. A large part of the problem is the exchange rate. Even if a producer charges the same price for 2010 as they did in 2009, the wines could be 20% more money! Some wines will sell, others are going to have a difficult time in the marketplace.
He’s just using a single thread to post all his notes in batches. Seems like a good idea to me.
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IIRC, there is also a limit to characters/post. But like Rath, I agee, breaking up 200+ individual wine notes into reasonably long posts is much preferred to one massively long post. ![[cheers.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/0/0ff9bfcdb0964982cd3240b6159868fbdf215b1a.gif "cheers"){kind=small}
Re: ever notice those quick/kneejerk replies where they quote that entire post verbatim, and the only comment they have is referencing a single wine? and then to make it worse, someone just hits the quote button to reply to that other person(s) singular reply, again ending up quoting the entire massively long post…uggh, I h8 that!
^edit see my next post for a mere taste of that with Alan Chan’s reply in the referenced 2008 thread
2 points Jeff, one was while you’re ignoring your usual detractor in this thread, you could admit to a mistake about alc content of the '47 Cheval Blanc, no?
There is perhaps wrongly, or correctly the perception of some that you’re like so many bloggers that are attention whores, that you’re somewhat massively self-absorbed and self-centered to a fault. Can’t really tell since I’ve never met you in person . That said, what you seemed to have missed was the reference A Songe was making re:other thread, John Gilman posted in on 2008. While there was no specific link, it was on the frong page of this forum, as it still is 
you can see the full version via my link:
http://www.wineberserkers.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=594207
I have not read what Robert Parker wrote about the vintage, but based on several reports of his very favorable view of the 2008s, I would have to say that I absolutely agree with him and tip my hat for his ability to peg the wines correctly when so many others seem to have missed the boat on the 2008s
^your comments?
but for those who were weaned on the vintages of the 1980s and earlier in Bordeaux, the > 2008 claret vintage is probably one of the finest in the last twenty years! > I> t is very rare these days for Bordeaux to have a vintage characterized by such a long growing season and still end up with excellent sugar levels at the time of harvest, and this long, cool hang time has probably resulted in tne most beautiful terroir-specific vintage in recent memory. >
^your comments?
I tasted a lot of 2008s while in Bordeaux for ten days in early April to review the 2010s, and I think that people who start to revisit these wines over the course of the next several months are going to be very, very happily surprised with how the wines are blossoming. The 2008 vintage in Bordeaux strikes me as one that has needed some time to bounce back from bottling and across the board, every 2008 that I tasted in May in Bordeaux that I had also sampled at the New York UGC event in January was showing decidedly more impressively in the spring, with greater depth of fruit, more overt purity and mid-palate sappiness and more sophisticated tannins on the finishes.
^your link to you website does not provide notes on the 2008 wines
you tasted this past April
l, which is what Songe is asking about, in reference to Gilman’s comments above about them improving. Also, as you have noted with judging barrel samples, would you also not concede that these UBC events, that perhaps tasting in such a way, you’re not getting the full benefit of having examined such wines as if you had the time to drink a bottle over hours, and/or days to see how they progress with aeration? Don’t you think this wham bam thx maam type of tasting, where bottles may undergo bottle shock, you’re tasting from full bottles or nearly empty bottles where aeration is entirely different btw the two, has it’s limitations? (though Lennie my like it that way, she’s that kind of kinky).
Speaking of Lennie (of massively self-absorbed and self-centered ego), do join her for her fav varietal Shiraz tonight right after she get’s her weekly pussy wax …yuck, along with those sumptuously motor-oil-thick new world versions, all dozen of them…should be a stretch for you . Meh, I’ll pass on wasting $60, and cyber toast Lennie from the Net with a case of TJ’s Shiraz, lol…same class of wine. come on Jeff, pop a La La 4 Lennie & give her that Syrahgasm you know she wants
http://ht.ly/4Kxxf
^alright, that makes 3.5 pts, sue me.
I’d rather not talk about Bordeaux, Jeff. Hey, you asked in your thread title .
What mistake are you talking about with regards to the alcohol level of 47 Cheval Blanc are you referring to? Please let me know.
I have not read what Robert Parker wrote about the vintage, but based on several reports of his very favorable view of the 2008s, I would have to say that I absolutely agree with him and tip my hat for his ability to peg the wines correctly when so many others seem to have missed the boat on the 2008s
^your comments?
I have not read Gillman’s notes on 2008. I do not have an opinion on his notes. However, I did think his comment on Parker getting the wines was very gracious.
^your link to you website does not provide notes on the 2008 wines you tasted this past April
My views on 2008 have not changed since tasting them in January or July of last year.
Also, as you have noted with judging barrel samples, would you also not concede that these UBC events, that perhaps tasting in such a way, you’re not getting the full benefit of having examined such wines as if you had the time to drink a bottle over hours, and/or days to see how they progress with aeration?
We are in complete agreement on this. That is not going to be possible for dozens or more wines. When I am in Bordeaux, I get to taste wines one at a time in bottle, but even then, I am not afforded the luxury of tasting them over hours.
I’m at 96 Pts on your post! 
Scott
As for who did better in 2010 than 2009, the entire appellation of St. Emilion is better. So is Margaux. Pomerol is worse.
Setting aside individual wines for a moment, the difference between 2009 and 2010 is the style of the wines. 2009 is pure sex in a bottle. The wines are opulent and deliver incredible textures and hedonistic thrills. I bought a lot of 2009 Pomerol. 2010 is more structured, serious and in some cases severe. That being said there are a few wines that might be affordable for thier quality in 2010 that were stunning. There are also some gems in 2010 from estates not known for making great wines in the past from both banks. That is where the best values will be found.