I’ve had no experience with the 2009 vintage in Bordeaux. I’d like to get some bottles in the $50 range to lay down longterm for my son’s birth year.
Anyone have any favorites in that price range that will be long lived?
Early on I’m thinking Talbot, but would love opinions from anyone who has done a lot of tasting of the vintage.
Thanks!
I have had this wine, and while it tends toward modernistic, I have no doubt the tannin and structure will let the wine make 20+ years effortlessly.
I tasted the 2009 vintage extensively en primeur.
My heart goes out to the Saint-Julien and Pauillac appellations.
2009 Saint-Pierre is brilliant, and not too expensive.
Alex R.
I bought Talbot EP for $55 and I am surprised to see it still sitting out there at that price.
Lilian Ladouys did well and is less.
I bought these and they are all out there at $59.99: Fleur Cardinale, Nenin; La Lagune; Cantenac-Brown and Prieure Lichine.
Good luck!
Do you mean they performed particularly poorly?
One of the bargains of the vintage is the 2009 Gloria, and that should last 15-20 years.
The price has shot up, but the 2009 Calon Segur should make beautiful old bones.
I also liked La Lagune when I tasted it at UGC 2012, but my price was closer to $70. I see W-S does have a $59.99 listing at Total Wine, though.
I just picked up 3 of the 2009 Batailley, which I really liked, and is in the $50 range. Also bought Prieure Lichine in that range, but liked the Batailley more.
Cantemerle will suit your needs for a couple decades.
I’m big on the '09 La Lagune as well. I went longer on 2010 than 2009, but La Lagune is an ager.
Beat me to it. I haven’t bought much Bordeaux in last few vintages (price creep and I already have a lot of Bdx) but was very happy with 2009 Cantemerle (was about $32, but looks like still under $40). Ripe but not overripe, good structure, balanced oak.
meyney could also work.
Those that I have tried and would nominate:
Gloria
La Tour Martillac
Haut Bergey
Cantermerle
Rol Valentin
I am not sure if they will go 20+ years, but they all should age well.
Thanks,
Ed
Spend a tiny bit more and buy a case of Brane-Cantenec.
It is built for the long haul.
Criminally underrated, and always over-delivers.
I’m still working my way through a case of '64, which was hardly a stellar LB vintage, and it’s drinking beautifully.
We recently opened the 1995 and 1996 Cantemerle. Quite enjoyable with slight nod to the '96. They will certainly be fun to try again at age 21, but I’m wary about the (very) long haul. My sense from OP is that he’s looking for 30-40 year wines (for years of enjoyment with his then adult child), not just 20-25 year ones.
I like the Batailley suggestion. Should be tasty after he runs out of his 2009 Cantemerle. ![[cheers.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/0/0ff9bfcdb0964982cd3240b6159868fbdf215b1a.gif "cheers"){kind=small}
Regards,
Peter
If price is a consideration (ie: not able to buy the household names that you KNOW will last), I’d be buying mixed cases. Last thing I’d want 30 years from now is to realize an entire case of Chateau Whatever didn’t last as long as you’d hoped. Buy 3-4 bottles of ea and diversify that risk away.
Well, as a matter of theory I’d assume Pauillac in general to be longer lived than practically-Margaux, so yes. In addition, track record is important, but of course many chateaux have changed methods over the years. But for the record I’ve had 2 excellent bottles of '83 Cantemerle in last year (and a fine '88), and a very good bottle of '70 a few years ago. So don’t think it’s a matter of terroir that can’t do 30 years.
That said, if Matt was really planning on 30-40 year drinking with Asa, maybe a bit more money might get one on firmer territory. But I’d agree with Clint- if I was going to buy $50ish Bordeaux for long long term, I’d diversify. Tastings on 18th or 21st birthdays might prompt some wines to be drunk up.
Heck, if I were looking for a case of $250ish bdx I’d still buy a mixed case just to be sure…want to make sure there’s something drinkable for future birth year wine purchases.
The results are in, thank you all for your advice and input.
So I picked up a few bottles of Talbot and Nenin, which I figure will get us to at least 18, 21 and maybe 25. Also a few bottles of Sociando Mallet, while it may not be the best wine out there, should be good drinking for 30 and 40 and his Supreme Court nomination. After that if he wants first growths etc for his 50th and beyond the kid is on his own.
I bought some '09’s from Premier Cru - they are happily aging them for me 