After forum searching, I couldn’t find much regarding 2005 in bordeaux.
I have more 2005’s than any other vintage. Haven’t touched any yet.
Anyone drinking any classified growths? Thoughts? Comparisons to other vintages?
I, like you, bought into 2005 Bordeaux, and from what discussions I’ve seen here on the vintage, it was nice for stuffing-filled early drinking, but most are really in an awkward place now, so that’s probably why you don’t have an easy time finding threads on them, at least overall as a vintage.
Some, however, like many I’ve had from Fronsac, have been really nice lately. 2005 Château La Vieille Cure is drinking very well.
I have a bottle of 2005 Gloria staring at me. Drinkable?
Very little 05 Bordeaux is open. I’m not touching anymore of my stash for now.
One recent exception: Carbonnieux rouge. Wide open, aromatic, fruity.
No touchy!
I’ve put the 05s in the same category as the 2000s. I suspect a number are actually drinking well right now, but that most are fast asleep. And given that I don’t react well to disappointment (ask my wife), I figure I will leave them alone and not try to separate wheat from chaf.
I have a BUNCH of 2005. More, maybe, than any other vintage. But they (and the 2010s) are going to be old age wines, I think.
I was just down in the cellar and decided to box up some of my 05’s to create rack space for incoming deliveries over the next two months. Man I wish I had more square footage with which to build my cellar. I maximized space/racking and it is always full. Maybe double deep racking on one side…HMMM a new project. You only really need 16" to walk right?
Sit on the '05. I started sampling some recently, thinking at least that the more modern St Ems might be opening, and boy was I wrong. I’m giving the St Ems another 3 years and the left banks much more. But that’s to be expected in a structured vintage like 05.
Drinking a '05 Baron de Brane (2nd wine of Brane Cantenac) today and it’s a tad muted, still wrapped up.
I’ve enjoyed many of the ‘2nd’ wines from the 2005 vintage and I was hoping this wine would be a bit more drinkable. While it is, one can feel that it’s not close to be ready to go. A good ribeye might have helped the perception this night.
For the big guns, it appears they shall continue to sleep.
+1
Pat Martin wrote:> Very little 05 Bordeaux is open. I’m not touching anymore of my stash for now.
+2. I can see myself trying '06s to (even) '09s before even thinking about my '05s. (Similar with Burgundies).
Cheers, Howard
I’ll admit to opening a 2005 Pontet Canet. Opened it 12 hours in advance. Dark, rich, vanilla, tons of fruit, tannins, and structure. Very primary but very drinkable with steak. Big wine, great weight and texture, and balanced. Nothing out of place. Built for the long haul.
Interesting Fred. Your post reminded me that Alfred Tesseron is in town for a vertical tasting of Pontet-Canets from 2000, including the 2005, so I’ll be able to try it without opening one. A 12 hours decant sounds sensible, I must find out how long they decant on Tuesday. Sadly there will be no steak on offer to soften …
Cheers, Howard
Howard, I’m betting the 04 shows nicely.
I’ve drank about a case and then some. It used to be $45-50 around 3-4 years ago. Once I poured a glass in while cooking coq au vin. About an hour later the entire room was filled with an amazing perfume. Best coq au vin I’ve ever made.
I’m holding on to a lone bottle to try again in 5-10 years alongside the 05.
Fred, I’ll look out for the 2004, hopefully it’s in the vertical.
Slight thread drift, but here too, for many years, Pontet-Canet was a real value play, and I have a few of different recent vintages, including 2004. A 1996 and a 2000 I had fairly recently were drinking really well (but still both pretty primary). Now their pricing (2009 vintage onwards) is normal Bordeaux (ie crazy).
Still, I never thought of using it as a cooking ingredient! But it sounds amazing.
Best, Howard
I would sit on the 2005s and the 2000s. Despite 2009 being the vintage of all eternity, I am guessing that the wise will have drained every last drop of the 2009s and maybe even 2010s before turning to the 2000s and 2005s…
Had 2005 Château Pichon-Longueville Baron Chalet de Pauillac recently and it was stunning for a value play. I believe it is Pichon-Longueville’s third wine. Most of my other 05’s are in a deep slumber for at least another 5 years.
I think 2010 is likely to be a replay of 1986 – a very slow race between fruit and tannin. The 2000s and even the 2005s will be ready long before the 2010s.
I see no reason to dip into the 2005s. 1999, 2001, 2002 (to a degree), 2004 . . . all drinking beautifully. The good 2003s are drinking well; the lousy ones will never be any better so should be drunk now. Or poured into the coq au vin. Had the 2003 Troplong last night and it was what you’d expect.
That has not been my general experience. I get to taste a lot of 2005 and find many to be quite enjoyable. That does not mean they are mature. But the fruit is of such high quality, the wines offer a good drinking experience.
I am not popping corks from my cellar from the Medoc, but I am ready to start popping Pomerol and St. Emilion from my own cellar. IMO, Petit Chateau should be opened as most are now fully mature, almost fully mature or even slowly starting to slide. I just added a TN for Vieille Cure and I think the fruit is slowly fading.
Neal… At least to me, the fruit and tannins are much riper in 2010 and the wines wil not resemble 1986. I agree 00 & 05 will be ready earlier, but they are also older 