Opened a 2004 Rousseau Chambertin while watching footie on friday night. The game was tense and exciting but not the wine. It had a brownish red rim. Stemmy, herbal tomato leaf character and a nondescript palate. Lacing it the ripe sweet intoxicating intense mouthfeel. One expects so much from a Rousseau Chambertin and it almost always delivers in spades. This epitomises the style of '04 vintage. So disappointing…
Had this only once, in spring 2007 in a Burg-04-tasting (not my wines) - and I thought: how can a 2004 look this old … the Ch CdBeze not better, and also not the BM Vogüé …
There WERE some better wines, but overall a very disapointing tasting …
SO glad I have no more 2004 Red Burgs… 
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Tough luck on the Chambertin!!! I had the Rousseau Clos De La Roche 04 two month ago and it showed the same kind of age but it was actually not green at all but quite pleasant the vintage in consideration and although it lacked a bit of the Rosseau-red-fruitiness it was all in all ok
I had them both a few months ago, and I think the Beze showed much better than the Chambertin.
Not really great wines though.
Trying to get to that stage …painful
Ok I will give the Beze a try at the footie finals.
Has any of the critics gone back and reported on the 2004s subsequently.
I buy wine to drink, but I did sell a few dozen 04s at auction last year for the first time as I was not enjoying drinking many of them. I still have a five or so dozen left and they may suffer the same fate.
Critics do not go back and report on vintages…there is no upside for them. They would simply expose the times that they called it wrong, and their whole business model is based upon our accepting that they have the almost superhuman ability to sip a wine, sometimes as one of a few hundred wines, and accurately predict its potential and it’s time of maturity 20 years in the future. I have not seen any critic substantially comment on the 2004 vintage, and we are already 9 years out! Pathetic.
Bill Nanson has…
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Clive Coates does Ten Year On tastings. 04 is up next.
Here’s 03, tasted in 2013
http://www.clive-coates.com/tastings/vintage/2003-burgundy-red-ten-years-on
Probably not worth drinking it Vs the still semi-reasonable price you can still get at auction for it though…
interesting(every this different notes for 2004 burgundy);
http://www.doctorwine.it/en/det_articolo.php?id_articolo=888
Sept.2013;
Clos de Bèze 2004 Armand Rousseau 96
Despite the difficult year a wine that is ‘simply’ perfect. The scents create a true kaleidoscope: citrus, spice, cinchona, flowers and humus. The mouthfeel is rich yet balanced, delicate yet taut and dynamic, fresh yet even ripe. The progression is distinct and profound while the finish is endless and expresses a calmness only the great can do.
(long time ago,i sold all 2004 from Rousseau.)
Someone on the UK board reported a delicious Roumier Chambolle 04 yesterday, not a wine that has always been highly acclaimed!
i have many 2004 les cras,but i say better nothing. 
It might have been that the Beze showed slightly better than the Ch. then (kind of supression ?) - but “much better” certainly didn´t come to my mind.
Both were browning at age 2.5 after the vintage, looking like 15+ years old in a weak vintage, and the fruit was far from pure, fresh and lively …
Sounds like they may have possibly been problematic bottles or perhaps even heat affected.
I have had them a number of times (bought a case of each), and they have never really looked like that, although some '04’s do look a bit older (with some browning) than what they perhaps are.
The last Beze we had looked reasonably bright IIRC, better than the Chambertin.
Early on, they actually looked much better overall than they do now (as most '04’s seem to now).
The Chambertin was the better wine on release, but looks a bit more dumb and a bit greener now than the slightly prettier Beze…
Think I would have scored the last bottles around 89 (Chambertin) and 90/91 (Beze).
I don´t think so.
While the two Rousseaus came from the same source, the (also weak) Vogüé BM was brought by another participant - as were other bottles that showed similar weak or (much) better.
I remember that LeMoine showed well, Mugneret was ok … and one of the best was JJ Confuron - Bruno Clair was in between then.
Maybe the wines have slightly recovered again in bottle over the years … but still a no-buy for me …
Gilman and Meadows frequently taste older vintages.