'08 Red Burgs

WINE TALK
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You are going to be mad at yourself when you are 72 and don’t have any yummy burgs to sip

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Nah. I can always backfill. My experience with the 96s (see the thread recently started by Rob Grenley) makes me wary of wines that are 15 years old and “need time”. On the one hand, my Mom and several aunts and uncles lived to be 85+. On the other, my Dad died at 74. I see zero point in leaving behind hundreds of bottles, so…

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Translation: I can always risk poor provenance [wink.gif]

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Lol!!

I’m going to pile on and say I love the freshness and acidity in the 08 right now. I don’t know how that translates 10 years down the road but it’s the only "new " vintage that I’ve loaded up on.

Fortunately in 10 years I’ll still be in my 30’s :stuck_out_tongue:

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My tasting group’s done a bunch of 1993 tastings… I’d say 3/4 of them have been great provenance-wise, about as good as one could expect. I’ll take those odds. It’s all about buying from trustworthy sources.

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But I will get to fondle my 2008s for the next 20 years and my heirs will get to profit when they sell you the wine.

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LOL [welldone.gif]

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I had an 08 Fourrier Gevrey VV last weekend. Initially exceptionally tight/structured, so we opened an 06 Voillot Champans to pass the time. Went back to the Fourrier after an hour, which had opened up. The Voillot was a very nice wine (I generally love Voillot) but it didn’t have the finesse and definition that the Fourrier had. Considering the price you can get the 08 Fourrier Gevrey for, I’ll pick some up and wait it out.

Also, once global warming really sets in, won’t ageable burgs become uber fashionable and impossible to buy?

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By all accounts, 2008 is a vintage I’d be all over if I was younger. I’m 10 years beyond Rick, and I’m on the sidelines. I do feel very blessed to have a good stash of vintages 1990 through 2006, and a few older bots as well.

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I have only had a few dozen so far so perhaps I’ve just luckily avoided all the wines that have the problems people are talking about, but frankly from my sample size the majority of '08s I’ve had have tasted the way you would expect them to taste in a top-notch, five-star vintage. I haven’t noticed excessive acidity in any of them. Perhaps my meter for acidity is calibrated differently from the rest of yours from drinking so much riesling…

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2008 sounds like just my kind of vintage - but I already own waaay too many burgs and just don’t drink frequently enough to justify adding more. that said, I’ve bought a couple (really, Howard, just a few - 6!) and I’d like to find a couple of others but I suspect I’ll hold myself to 1-2 cases at the most.

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[rofl.gif] I will be counting. neener What have you bought? So far, I have around a case and a half or a bit more of assorted Jadot and a few assorted other bottles like Dublair Volnay Taillepieds.

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Based on what I’ve tasted, I’m inclined to agree with Mr. Levenberg and Mr. Gilman. I’ve had some spotty wines, but the good bottles have been great, and just as profound as any '99s, '05s, or '09s I’ve tasted so far - albeit with a different fruit/acid profile.

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Many producers prefer their '08s to their '09s - Freddy Mugnier among them. It is certainly more terroir transparent, and much more of a “Burgundian” vintage, to be sure. The '08s have changed a lot over the last year in bottle, and the acidity that was “sticking out” now seems to have integrated nicely, merging with the really lovely “fresh” fruit qualities that are the hallmark of the vintage.

I, and many of our producers, originally thought these wines would take a good long time to sort themselves out. Based on the in-bottle transformations we’re seeing, I’m now thinking these are medium-term wines that will come to their peak much earlier than expected (Grand Crus excepted - which will, as always, deserve and require a good 10 years to show what they’re made of.)

In the name of science, I brought an '08 Mugnier Chambolle and an '08 Lafarge Clos du Chateau des Ducs to a Chevaliers dinner earlier this week - both were stunning in their purity and precision, and absolutely delicious. It could well be the better vintage when looking back years from now, but the '09s are just undeniably extroverted and sexy and hard to resist. My cellar will have a lot of both…

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Scott,
How did Confuron do in 09?
I love the wines I have had from them.

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Have had Roumier Chambolle village, Voillot Pezerolles and Fourrier MSD clos solon and they were all excellent. I still need to get my Grivots but they should be great as well.

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Scott,

I have had only a few 09s so far, so am asking this as a question, is this a repeat of 01 and 02? To me, both 01 and 02 were excellent vintages, but because the 02s were “prettier” out of the box, they got more press and commanded higher prices. The better values, esp. initially, were the 01s.

It seems like with 07, 08 and 09, history may be somewhat repeating itself from 00, 01 and 02? Or, I may be spouting nonsense.

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Evening all,

I’m slightly vexed not to have ordered more 08s on release as those I’ve tried recently have been distinctly beauteous with a real transparency of expression - I feel they speak very clearly of their origins. Fourrier’s Chambolle Gruenchers is very impressive, I’ve loved Benjamin Leroux’s negoce wines I’ve tried and I feel so chuffed to have picked up some Comte Armand kit. The Auxey-Duresses 1er cru is perhaps the most pure and refined example of this wine I’ve tried and I had a little taste of Clos des Epeneaux a couple of weeks back and it was abso-tmesis-lutely ravishing. These are wines to engage the faculties and give you a bit of a thrill as well.

Cheers,
David.

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On the whole, I’m in love with the vintage - whites and reds. Not all but a considerable proportion. Have you tried L’Arlot’s 08s? I thought the 08 Clos L’Arlot was gorgeous. There’s a long list I’d like to own and am slowly accumulating.

RT

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Roger, I was late getting into Burgundy, 96 the first I bought in depth, even though 93 was only three years earlier it seems like an age away to me. I have managed to buy quite a few over the years and all have impressed with transparency and cut so I guess in a similar camp to 08. No one has mentioned 07, I actually think many of the riper 07’s are not too different to the 08’s, they have similar length and persistence, though I expect the 07’s will mature much earlier.
Rick, I am 52 also, I have a load of wine to get through, but I drink a lot, and hope to keep on going well into my 70’s, I expect my buying enthusiasm will taper off over the next few years, my wife is a moderating influence and of course my body needs to maintain current form.
Cheers Mike