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#51 Post by AD Northup » September 1st, 2019, 9:05 pm

Jeff Moore wrote:
September 1st, 2019, 7:58 pm
2013 Savart has been listed on their website for several weeks now, so I’m guessing there wasn’t an offer....he probably just purchased these bottles off of the site.
Correct, first time actually checking the site since it was up and running (instead of just emails). Seemed like a decent deal so jumped.
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#52 Post by Dennis Atick » September 2nd, 2019, 4:36 am

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Dennis, so I am not alone. Huh. Was it a communication issue with Savart?
Yes. Lack of and then tone. General disinterest. I moved on.
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#53 Post by AD Northup » September 2nd, 2019, 7:50 am

Dennis Atick wrote:
September 2nd, 2019, 4:36 am
Frank Murray III wrote:
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Dennis, so I am not alone. Huh. Was it a communication issue with Savart?
Yes. Lack of and then tone. General disinterest. I moved on.
Appreciate the feedback on your experience. I’ve only had the L’ouverture so wanted to try one of the other releases, but given the abundance of quality champagne at the price point, will keep this in mind.
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#54 Post by Frank Murray III » September 2nd, 2019, 7:54 am

Dennis, thanks for the clarification on Savart. Looks like they have lost 2 customers, then.
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#55 Post by YLee » September 4th, 2019, 2:10 pm

Jamet vertical.
Lets see if I got'em. Was only interested in 2012.
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#56 Post by Nathan V. » September 4th, 2019, 2:43 pm

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September 2nd, 2019, 7:54 am
Dennis, thanks for the clarification on Savart. Looks like they have lost 2 customers, then.
You guys are welcome to do whatever you want, but for an operation like Savart answering downstream emails might not be a priority. His customers are really the importers/wholesalers who buy his wine and sustain his business (Grand Cru for at least the East Coast). I think the wines are superb and am happy to have less competition but I think that your expectations for the prioritization of your correspondence might be a little high and I think you might be taking it a bit too personally. Also, did you write to him in French? Are you sure everything translated the way both of you intended?
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#57 Post by Frank Murray III » September 4th, 2019, 3:32 pm

Nathan, here is the reminder of the topic, one where I was in the minority as to my opinion. You were in this thread, as well. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=156776&hilit=savart&start=100

And I did use French to communicate with him, via his website. I moved on, I don't buy the wines anymore.
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#58 Post by Nathan V. » September 5th, 2019, 12:37 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
September 4th, 2019, 3:32 pm
Nathan, here is the reminder of the topic, one where I was in the minority as to my opinion. You were in this thread, as well. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=156776&hilit=savart&start=100

And I did use French to communicate with him, via his website. I moved on, I don't buy the wines anymore.
French through google translate or are you a fluent speaker? Anyway, as I said, you can do what you like and I wish you no ill will. I just think that you are being unrealistic to expect Mssr. Savart to make your case of a single corked wine a priority.

Also, you seem to buy a lot of your Champagne through grey market sources. When you go to Champagne do you tell the folks your visiting this fact? The grey market is an end around, their official importer is how they sustain their business and livelihood.
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#59 Post by Frank Murray III » September 5th, 2019, 1:55 pm

Nathan, it's the winery's decision to answer their customer traffic or not. They didn't, but if you're gonna put a Contact button on your site, and a customer pings through there that they had a negative experience, I would like to believe they would respond. And yes, I did use Google Translate, as it has seemed to work suitably for when I want to try and at least meet people on their terms of language, not mine. We disagree on what is realistic here. I simply would have liked them to ack the issue with me. This is how I would want to treat my customers if I ran a winery.

My recall of my 2018 trip was that I do not remember one winery even asking me where I bought my wines.
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#60 Post by Troy Stark » September 5th, 2019, 2:05 pm

Thread drift in progress? [help.gif]
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#61 Post by AD Northup » September 6th, 2019, 9:38 am

2012 Bereche et Fils Reflet d’Antan seems like a solid deal on a good wine.
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#62 Post by Russ Williams » September 7th, 2019, 9:30 pm

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2012 Bereche et Fils Reflet d’Antan seems like a solid deal on a good wine.
I have never had a Bereche so this seemed like a good place to start, especially for the price. champagne.gif
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#63 Post by AD Northup » September 11th, 2019, 2:58 pm

Anyone with much experience with the Clos Joliette?
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#64 Post by Yao C » September 13th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Jumped on a couple of the Cappellano. Lopa is dangerous [help.gif]
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2012 Bereche et Fils Reflet d’Antan seems like a solid deal on a good wine.
I have never had a Bereche so this seemed like a good place to start, especially for the price. champagne.gif
My one recent experience with the Reflet d'Antan is that it was unusual/fun/crazy in a good way; lots of saline, rock, darker/lower toned. I think you won't regret it :)
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#65 Post by Josh Grossman » September 23rd, 2019, 9:57 am

Anyone buy the Nikolaihof? I can't think 2014 was a stellar year in Austria?

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#66 Post by joeduncan » September 23rd, 2019, 11:06 am

I picked up some of the "Vom Stein".

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#67 Post by Troy Stark » September 23rd, 2019, 1:12 pm

I skipped Nikolaihof since I picked up some of the 18 Schafer-Frohlich GG Felseneck.
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#68 Post by Jonathan G » September 23rd, 2019, 1:34 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
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Anyone buy the Nikolaihof? I can't think 2014 was a stellar year in Austria?
I ended up buying some of the Steiner Hund. 2014 was considered rather poor in Austria but I'd love some of this for early drinking and a little leanness I don't think hurts Austrian Rieslings much.
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#69 Post by Josh Grossman » November 9th, 2019, 10:49 am

Asked for a sampling of all of today’s PEHU-SIMONET offerings. Seems like it’s my style of Champagne

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#70 Post by m. ristev » November 9th, 2019, 11:13 am

https://www.lavinia.fr/fr/produits/jacq ... 0-ans-2008

if anybody like me was curious about the 08 lassaigne offer from the other day, i do not believe the information in the email was very accurate. the usual millesime releases retail about 70 euro, so this is selling for a bit less. also notice the '1+un' printed on the label, which is the name of a lower end assemblage cuvee only sold in europe that is composed of 4 consecutive vintages. still not quite sure what exactly is in the lavinia bottling he offered but it is certainly not the same wine as the 2008 millesime.
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#71 Post by Frank Murray III » November 9th, 2019, 11:27 am

Josh Grossman wrote:
November 9th, 2019, 10:49 am
Asked for a sampling of all of today’s PEHU-SIMONET offerings. Seems like it’s my style of Champagne
In for the 2012s, too.
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#72 Post by Russ Williams » November 9th, 2019, 9:08 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
November 9th, 2019, 11:27 am
Josh Grossman wrote:
November 9th, 2019, 10:49 am
Asked for a sampling of all of today’s PEHU-SIMONET offerings. Seems like it’s my style of Champagne
In for the 2012s, too.
I grabbed some of the 2008.
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#73 Post by AD Northup » November 10th, 2019, 5:31 am

m. ristev wrote:
November 9th, 2019, 11:13 am
https://www.lavinia.fr/fr/produits/jacq ... 0-ans-2008

if anybody like me was curious about the 08 lassaigne offer from the other day, i do not believe the information in the email was very accurate. the usual millesime releases retail about 70 euro, so this is selling for a bit less. also notice the '1+un' printed on the label, which is the name of a lower end assemblage cuvee only sold in europe that is composed of 4 consecutive vintages. still not quite sure what exactly is in the lavinia bottling he offered but it is certainly not the same wine as the 2008 millesime.
Confused here as well so ultimately sat that one out
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#74 Post by Diane Kessler » November 18th, 2019, 8:37 am

AD Northup wrote:
November 10th, 2019, 5:31 am
m. ristev wrote:
November 9th, 2019, 11:13 am
https://www.lavinia.fr/fr/produits/jacq ... 0-ans-2008

if anybody like me was curious about the 08 lassaigne offer from the other day, i do not believe the information in the email was very accurate. the usual millesime releases retail about 70 euro, so this is selling for a bit less. also notice the '1+un' printed on the label, which is the name of a lower end assemblage cuvee only sold in europe that is composed of 4 consecutive vintages. still not quite sure what exactly is in the lavinia bottling he offered but it is certainly not the same wine as the 2008 millesime.
Confused here as well so ultimately sat that one out
I ordered 2 bottles based on the description given in the email describing it as the 2008 Millésimé. I’ve been in touch with Scott and he is attempting to sort it out. He passed on the information he was given when he sent out the offer.

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#75 Post by brigcampbell » December 4th, 2019, 4:20 pm

Scott from Lopa will be participating in Berserkerday 2020

More details coming for you bubble heads.

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#76 Post by joeduncan » December 4th, 2019, 4:24 pm

brigcampbell wrote:
December 4th, 2019, 4:20 pm
Scott from Lopa will be participating in Berserkerday 2020

More details coming for you bubble heads.
Scott's already a terrible influence on me. It might cause my wallet to explode!

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#77 Post by AD Northup » December 4th, 2019, 4:25 pm

Things are ramping up quickly for BSD 2020
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#78 Post by Frank Murray III » December 4th, 2019, 5:07 pm

Joe, you I assume got the email yesterday from Scott, telling us he is shutting off the pre-arrival Champagne offers until the idiotic trade thing is resolved. And while it might help my own wallet for a few weeks, I would rather be seeing offers and continuing to lock in bubbly. I am glad he is able to support BD, but in the broader scheme of things, for a guy who has been in business for just over 4 months, this is tariff thing, as much as it is for others in the business, is just a shitty hurdle to overcome. I do hope for all of us that this thing, and the 25% already hitting others, goes away soon.
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#79 Post by brigcampbell » December 4th, 2019, 5:23 pm

He's gonna get creative for BD. I was on the phone with him today for 20 minutes talking through options.

The good news is he can have a bunch of options loaded up and then make a game day decision as which to offer based on the current state of affairs.

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#80 Post by joeduncan » December 4th, 2019, 5:27 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
December 4th, 2019, 5:07 pm
Joe, you I assume got the email yesterday from Scott, telling us he is shutting off the pre-arrival Champagne offers until the idiotic trade thing is resolved. And while it might help my own wallet for a few weeks, I would rather be seeing offers and continuing to lock in bubbly. I am glad he is able to support BD, but in the broader scheme of things, for a guy who has been in business for just over 4 months, this is tariff thing, as much as it is for others in the business, is just a shitty hurdle to overcome. I do hope for all of us that this thing, and the 25% already hitting others, goes away soon.
I did, and the tariffs are a huge bummer. I'd had a good chat with Scott when the first 25% round were implemented.

My comment was tongue-in-cheek regarding Scott participating in BD - I'm very happy with his offers so far and it'll be great to get him more business! I certainly want his business to survive.

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#81 Post by Frank Murray III » December 4th, 2019, 5:29 pm

Joe, no harm in your post. I simply wanted to expand the information, relative to the tariff and how it is affecting people.
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