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#1 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 14th, 2019, 9:01 am

Before you read...guess who it could be!

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#2 Post by Victor Hong » June 14th, 2019, 9:07 am

When a person pursues others with promises of libel suits or worse, because of publicly reported actions, not naming the person is prudent.
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#3 Post by Markus S » June 14th, 2019, 9:10 am

Wonder if Yesman is a real yesman?

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#4 Post by TomHill » June 14th, 2019, 9:39 am

Gee...we haven't heard from Zucc in quite some time. I always kinda of liked John.
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#5 Post by Chris Blum » June 14th, 2019, 1:10 pm

Nailed it on the first guess
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#6 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » June 14th, 2019, 1:21 pm

Wow, just wow.

I thought he was running a multi-billion dollar investment fund.
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#7 Post by Brian Gilp » June 15th, 2019, 4:50 am

I hope he doesn’t close the winery before I get to the finger lakes this fall. I’ve always been interested in trying his wines after reading his posts for years.

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#8 Post by Nola Palomar » June 15th, 2019, 5:05 am

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#9 Post by Scott G r u n e r » June 15th, 2019, 9:01 am

Zuchini Guy!!! Was just talking about him.
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#10 Post by R. Smith » June 15th, 2019, 10:06 am

Here’s a link to John’s complaint. It is well worth reading.

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#11 Post by R. Smith » June 15th, 2019, 10:10 am

#46 is my favorite:
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#12 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » June 15th, 2019, 10:34 am

Wonder how his previous run ins with law enforcement will play out in court?
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#13 Post by Dave McIsaac » June 15th, 2019, 10:49 am

Stop picking on this Diego already and stock up on his 90++ point wines while you have the chance

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#14 Post by GregT » June 15th, 2019, 11:26 am

It really takes off around paragraph 38.

Still, I'm glad I don't live in that town, although the DA did the right thing.

I kind of feel bad for John.
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#15 Post by G. Bienstock » June 15th, 2019, 11:37 am

Trouble with T shirts?
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#16 Post by Poppy Davis » June 15th, 2019, 11:37 am

Oh come on, #43 is clearly the best!

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#17 Post by S Haller » June 15th, 2019, 12:04 pm

You can tell that he’s going to milk this out for all it’s worth
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#18 Post by R. Smith » June 15th, 2019, 12:31 pm

Here’s the towns response to John’s lawsuit:
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#19 Post by R. Smith » June 15th, 2019, 1:01 pm

Looks like John hired an incredible law firm to take his case. They only have 2 attorneys but specialize in so many things!

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#20 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » June 15th, 2019, 1:13 pm

What, no immigration law?
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#21 Post by Ian S » June 15th, 2019, 6:26 pm

Remember when the American Dream was getting rich with hard work at your own business? Now it's getting rich via lawsuit.
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#22 Post by Randy Bowman » June 15th, 2019, 7:24 pm

Where is she when she's needed?
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#23 Post by GregT » June 15th, 2019, 7:29 pm

It seems like this is a clown show all the way around.

A cop issued a ticket and apparently there was a hearing. That means there are records. So how can the town deny knowledge of that? They have to know something about 17, 36, and 37?

And how could they deny knowledge that he had generously loaned an employee $420? Surely that had to be common knowledge around town! That's the stuff that makes the complaint so much fun.

The worry about developing a dependence on the anti-anxiety medication is pretty good too.
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#24 Post by Zachary Ross » June 16th, 2019, 4:54 am

GregT wrote:
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The worry about developing a dependence on the anti-anxiety medication is pretty good too.

He should take something for that.
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#25 Post by Nick Ryan » June 16th, 2019, 9:42 am

GregT wrote:
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And how could they deny knowledge that he had generously loaned an employee $420? Surely that had to be common knowledge around town! That's the stuff that makes the complaint so much fun.
IMHO everyone involved in the proceedings would benefit from more than a little bit of 420. [gen_fro.gif]
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#26 Post by L e o F r o k i c » June 16th, 2019, 10:43 am

Sending thought and prayers and wishing John a speedy recovery....
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#27 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » June 16th, 2019, 10:48 am

Thoughts and prayers are likely to be all that can help John with his (likely) imaginary distress.
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#28 Post by Anton D » June 16th, 2019, 11:45 am

I am trying to imagine a life so perfect and placid that an incident like that might be the worst thing that happened on a given portion of a day, let alone start an ongoing tantrum that drew forth such relentless foul humors.

Is a judge allowed to tell a plaintiff to ‘put on his big boy pants’ and get on with life, or does the court really have to deal with this psychotic tour of the plaintiff’s Omphaloskepsis?
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#29 Post by TGigante » June 16th, 2019, 12:47 pm

Nick Ryan wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 9:42 am
GregT wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 7:29 pm
And how could they deny knowledge that he had generously loaned an employee $420? Surely that had to be common knowledge around town! That's the stuff that makes the complaint so much fun.
IMHO everyone involved in the proceedings would benefit from more than a little bit of 420. [gen_fro.gif]
In this case 420 can turn into 5150
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#30 Post by GregT » June 16th, 2019, 7:27 pm

Nick Ryan wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 9:42 am
GregT wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 7:29 pm
And how could they deny knowledge that he had generously loaned an employee $420? Surely that had to be common knowledge around town! That's the stuff that makes the complaint so much fun.
IMHO everyone involved in the proceedings would benefit from more than a little bit of 420. [gen_fro.gif]
Maybe they have and that's why they have such wonderful legal documents!
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#31 Post by Randy Bowman » June 16th, 2019, 7:43 pm

I'm trying remember how far back it was this individual started posting stuff that had me looking for the law enforcement agency of jurisdiction to both request a welfare check and warn that agency of potential hazardous situations involving John. He needed help but I couldn't determine his potential for violence based on words in a wine board post. When he got arrested I hoped the issues would be addressed. They obviously were not. You can't fix stupid for not addressing the problems and it is questionable whether or not you can reasonably address crazy.
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#32 Post by Anton D » June 16th, 2019, 9:55 pm

Randy Bowman wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 7:43 pm
I'm trying remember how far back it was this individual started posting stuff that had me looking for the law enforcement agency of jurisdiction to both request a welfare check and warn that agency of potential hazardous situations involving John. He needed help but I couldn't determine his potential for violence based on words in a wine board post. When he got arrested I hoped the issues would be addressed. They obviously were not. You can't fix stupid for not addressing the problems and it is questionable whether or not you can reasonably address crazy.
Wow! I gotta do a post search!
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#33 Post by Brian Gilp » June 17th, 2019, 7:40 am

Anton D wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 9:55 pm
Randy Bowman wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 7:43 pm
I'm trying remember how far back it was this individual started posting stuff that had me looking for the law enforcement agency of jurisdiction to both request a welfare check and warn that agency of potential hazardous situations involving John. He needed help but I couldn't determine his potential for violence based on words in a wine board post. When he got arrested I hoped the issues would be addressed. They obviously were not. You can't fix stupid for not addressing the problems and it is questionable whether or not you can reasonably address crazy.
Wow! I gotta do a post search!
Not sure if Randy is referencing here or elsewhere but there was already a history of behavior before WB was established.

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#34 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » June 17th, 2019, 7:43 am

Brian Gilp wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 7:40 am
Anton D wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 9:55 pm
Randy Bowman wrote:
June 16th, 2019, 7:43 pm
I'm trying remember how far back it was this individual started posting stuff that had me looking for the law enforcement agency of jurisdiction to both request a welfare check and warn that agency of potential hazardous situations involving John. He needed help but I couldn't determine his potential for violence based on words in a wine board post. When he got arrested I hoped the issues would be addressed. They obviously were not. You can't fix stupid for not addressing the problems and it is questionable whether or not you can reasonably address crazy.
Wow! I gotta do a post search!
Not sure if Randy is referencing here or elsewhere but there was already a history of behavior before WB was established.
Indeed.

I remember his mafioso persona on eBob and his veiled references to violence.
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#36 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » June 17th, 2019, 9:13 am

Scott,

That's still recent stuff. He was way over the line long before those reports.
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#37 Post by Vincent Fritzsche » June 17th, 2019, 9:27 am

He's the only guy I ever felt threatened by in the online wine world. I feel empathy for anyone who's obviously tortured. But man he really pushes it to the brink.
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#38 Post by Scott G r u n e r » June 17th, 2019, 9:59 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 9:13 am
Scott,

That's still recent stuff. He was way over the line long before those reports.
Agree- the thread is recent (assuming 2014 is considered recent) but it references stuff going back to the early 2000's. Plus a data point that goes beyond Berserkers and eBob- I am sure there are are other boards too, outside of my narrow purview.
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#39 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » June 17th, 2019, 9:59 am

Yup - there are.
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#40 Post by G. Bienstock » June 17th, 2019, 12:05 pm

Link to his mailing list for investors.

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#41 Post by Steve Manzi » June 18th, 2019, 1:20 pm

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