Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

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#1 Post by Markus S » May 17th, 2019, 7:25 pm

Like Godot, still waiting.
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#2 Post by NoahR » May 17th, 2019, 7:45 pm

If you find any 15 or 16, let me know. Have some ‘15 on order from Robert Panzer.
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#3 Post by Victor Hong » May 18th, 2019, 5:05 am

Did Ray Walker buy the business?
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#4 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » May 18th, 2019, 5:45 am

Patience, grasshopper . . . .

I have no storage, so I’m cool with the wait.

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#5 Post by NoahR » May 18th, 2019, 6:25 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Patience, grasshopper . . . .

I have no storage, so I’m cool with the wait.
If you just keep it all in your Orlando attic, probably ends up like beautiful aged Madeira. The Alfert Canteiro method?
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#6 Post by Travis Fantz » May 18th, 2019, 8:24 am

Panzer told me July.
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#7 Post by Robert M yers » May 18th, 2019, 9:03 pm

Travis Fantz wrote:
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Panzer told me July.
Was told April and then May....hmmm. I’m not in any hurry, but I would like to know what’s up I guess.

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#8 Post by Travis Fantz » May 18th, 2019, 9:16 pm

Sorry
I just reread his email, summer arrival which starts June 20th.
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#9 Post by Robert Panzer » May 18th, 2019, 9:58 pm

Full story once precise timing is locked in will go out to all those who purchased '15s. '16 offer will be on the heels once things are flowin'.
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#10 Post by Robert Panzer » May 18th, 2019, 10:02 pm

Oh. And I've seen my mound of packaged labeled wine at his winery twice. Tasted the botlled wine on three separate occasions.
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#11 Post by Robert M yers » May 18th, 2019, 10:56 pm

Thanks For the update here Robert. Good to hear your/our wine is safe and ready to go. Mentally now Clearing some room in the budget for 16’s.

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#12 Post by c fu » May 18th, 2019, 11:33 pm

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May 18th, 2019, 10:56 pm
Thanks For the update here Robert. Good to hear your/our wine is safe and ready to go. Mentally now Clearing some room in the budget for 16’s.
wonder what kind of chilling affect the delay of the 15s will have on 16 purchases.

Let's say they arrive end of June. No one will actually have their wines shipped until probably 2-3 months later. Will they purchase 16s when 15s still aren't in their hands?

I know the delay isn't the fault of the importers/retailers and out of their control, but there's probably gonna be some backlash by consumers that affect them based on the errors/delays by the domaine. I'll still be buying, but I know a few people who won't be.
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#13 Post by NoahR » May 19th, 2019, 4:39 am

c fu wrote:
May 18th, 2019, 11:33 pm
Robert M yers wrote:
May 18th, 2019, 10:56 pm
Thanks For the update here Robert. Good to hear your/our wine is safe and ready to go. Mentally now Clearing some room in the budget for 16’s.
wonder what kind of chilling affect the delay of the 15s will have on 16 purchases.

Let's say they arrive end of June. No one will actually have their wines shipped until probably 2-3 months later. Will they purchase 16s when 15s still aren't in their hands?

I know the delay isn't the fault of the importers/retailers and out of their control, but there's probably gonna be some backlash by consumers that affect them based on the errors/delays by the domaine. I'll still be buying, but I know a few people who won't be.
Fu, you’ve kicked up the Rhône market so high, there won’t be lack of demand for Benetiere’s 16’s! As long the prices aren’t escalating like Allemand and Jamet ;)
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#14 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » May 19th, 2019, 4:47 am

c fu wrote:
May 18th, 2019, 11:33 pm
Robert M yers wrote:
May 18th, 2019, 10:56 pm
Thanks For the update here Robert. Good to hear your/our wine is safe and ready to go. Mentally now Clearing some room in the budget for 16’s.
wonder what kind of chilling affect the delay of the 15s will have on 16 purchases.

Let's say they arrive end of June. No one will actually have their wines shipped until probably 2-3 months later. Will they purchase 16s when 15s still aren't in their hands?

I know the delay isn't the fault of the importers/retailers and out of their control, but there's probably gonna be some backlash by consumers that affect them based on the errors/delays by the domaine. I'll still be buying, but I know a few people who won't be.
My guess is, if you were a fan of Benetiere before the 2015 Northern Rhone hype, you will be a fan in 2016 and beyond. Even if there is something wrong with 2015, I’d still buy 2016 based on my perception of the vintage, and what I have experienced with Benetiere in vintages like 2010-2013. Of course, the winery holding on to 2015s for this period of time, and Robert commenting on tasting them 3 times with no word on what they taste like, is not comforting about the vintage. Part of the risk we all take in this hobby, which of course, is way offset by all the positives.

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#15 Post by NoahR » May 19th, 2019, 5:22 am

His initial offer in 1/2018 had his assessment having tasted it twice in barrel and once in bottle apparently:

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“ Oh yeah, I forgot. There is wine. :0 Pierre elected to sell off in bulk his entire 2014 Cordeloux and Condrieu production as the level of volatile acidity was through the roof, refusing to put his name on such a bottle. Imagine that, an entire year's work down the drain......He had just bottled the 2015 Cordeloux the week prior to my visit, a wine that had me in fits of yum yum freak out on the two prior occasions tasting it in barrel. He opened a bottle for me to enjoy with a veal rib-eye steak that he grilled over coals of dead grape vines. The wine (and veal chop) did not disappoint.....On the first evening, the wine presented deep ripe raspberry toned fruit, deep violet florals, and whole cluster spice, its richness and silky texture enrobing any sense of its seamlessly ripe tannic structure. There was at once a sense of the solar, ripe nature of 2015 without traces of excess, full of the tell tale finesse and harmony that are part of his patte maison (house style). On night number two as we reconvened for leftovers, the wine was even more precise and delineated, with the baby fat toning up a bit, with notably more whole cluster spice, fine buried minerality, and arresting aromatics. The ripe red raspberry toned fruit was even more expressive on the second evening, with savory notes continuing to emerge, with long and ever rising florals and spice, and then there was none.....”

Any reason to believe the wine will suffer either the same fate as 2014 or excesses of 2015 heat?
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#16 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » May 19th, 2019, 5:45 am

What was the issue, if any, with 2014? I forgot that I had not grabbed any.

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#17 Post by NoahR » May 19th, 2019, 5:51 am

He didn’t make any. VA problems.
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#18 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » May 19th, 2019, 5:57 am

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He didn’t make any. VA problems.
Thanks, had totally forgotten about that. Terrible for such a small, artisanal producer.

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#19 Post by c fu » May 19th, 2019, 10:49 am

NoahR wrote:
May 19th, 2019, 4:39 am
c fu wrote:
May 18th, 2019, 11:33 pm
Robert M yers wrote:
May 18th, 2019, 10:56 pm
Thanks For the update here Robert. Good to hear your/our wine is safe and ready to go. Mentally now Clearing some room in the budget for 16’s.
wonder what kind of chilling affect the delay of the 15s will have on 16 purchases.

Let's say they arrive end of June. No one will actually have their wines shipped until probably 2-3 months later. Will they purchase 16s when 15s still aren't in their hands?

I know the delay isn't the fault of the importers/retailers and out of their control, but there's probably gonna be some backlash by consumers that affect them based on the errors/delays by the domaine. I'll still be buying, but I know a few people who won't be.
Fu, you’ve kicked up the Rhône market so high, there won’t be lack of demand for Benetiere’s 16’s! As long the prices aren’t escalating like Allemand and Jamet ;)
Now that the Source are importing it i to the 3 tier system it’ll get there in no time. I’ll keep buying from panzer who is always prices and allocates fairly
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#20 Post by Robert Panzer » May 19th, 2019, 1:56 pm

Fwiw, the '16 will be more expensive, but nothing crazy different. Like 15%-ish from what I understand.
Honestly, the dude deserves even more, which I tell him openly...
No prob at all Noah to quote my tasting note. Shows you actually read the offers, not just scroll down to boldface wine and price (tisk, tisk lord Alfert saying that i've not described tasting the wine....). [wink.gif]
As you would expect from the nature of the '16 vintage in general, it is more elegant, not as dense; fans of elegance vs raw power may prefer it, based on my barrel/tank tastings. It is plenty sappy and pure, with a seamless texture and similar if a bit brighter red fruited than the more solar '15. I will perhaps not have a chance to taste it in bottle before offering it, as I won't see him until late November.
Like I said, the story for the delay will go to purchasers once the dust is fully settled (i've been waiting for the final call any day now for a while), which I imagine will allay any concerns.
Um, I don't think it will be a problem if some people are skittish to buy the '16.
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#21 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » May 19th, 2019, 2:50 pm

Robert Panzer wrote:
May 19th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Fwiw, the '16 will be more expensive, but nothing crazy different. Like 15%-ish from what I understand.
Honestly, the dude deserves even more, which I tell him openly...
No prob at all Noah to quote my tasting note. Shows you actually read the offers, not just scroll down to boldface wine and price (tisk, tisk lord Alfert saying that i've not described tasting the wine....). [wink.gif]
As you would expect from the nature of the '16 vintage in general, it is more elegant, not as dense; fans of elegance vs raw power may prefer it, based on my barrel/tank tastings. It is plenty sappy and pure, with a seamless texture and similar if a bit brighter red fruited than the more solar '15. I will perhaps not have a chance to taste it in bottle before offering it, as I won't see him until late November.
Like I said, the story for the delay will go to purchasers once the dust is fully settled (i've been waiting for the final call any day now for a while), which I imagine will allay any concerns.
Um, I don't think it will be a problem if some people are skittish to buy the '16.
Their loss.
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#22 Post by ybarselah » May 20th, 2019, 6:38 am

from the importer so public knowledge now... Due to an administrative oversight, 2015s and maybe 2016s will not be Cote Rotie but rather VdF. They failed to file some required paperwork, which led to a long bureaucratic nightmare. They were unable to release the wine until this was all settled. awaiting the new VdF labels. don’t anticipate seeing the wines before summer’s end.
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#23 Post by Robert Panzer » May 20th, 2019, 7:05 am

In a nutshell, yes. '14/'15/'16 are the vintages in question, with an appeal in to the oh so slow INAO to respond to see if he can in fact still use Côte Rôtie on the label or not. I don't believe that there has yet been a final decision from the INAO. Moving forward, '17 and beyond can be labelled as Côte Rôtie.
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#24 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » May 20th, 2019, 8:46 am

Or just label it “slow wine.”
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#25 Post by Markus S » May 20th, 2019, 5:00 pm

Interesting. Nice to finally get some solid answers.
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#26 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » May 20th, 2019, 5:03 pm

Just keep it cold, Robert. I look at this as free storage!

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#27 Post by Robert Panzer » May 21st, 2019, 8:36 am

My warehouse is ideal temp/humidity 24/7/365.
I am quite proud of its efficiency, the total energy bill in August is around $100!!!
It will soon be 100% solar, so ideal and self sustaining for ever and ever aaaamen.
Fwiw, indeed, the '15 and '16 Cordeloux will be labelled as Vin de France, as Yaacov was informed.
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#28 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » June 15th, 2019, 6:51 am

Got an email from Robert that the wines are on the move!
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#29 Post by Markus S » June 15th, 2019, 7:46 am

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
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Got an email from Robert that the wines are on the move!
At least he didn't say they were "on-the-water"!
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#31 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 17th, 2019, 8:16 am

Who will be the first to Pobega?

I cannot take actual delivery until Fall. It’s close to 119 degrees in Orlando, or something like that. My wine would be raspberry confit, though some modernists may like that.

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#32 Post by Markus S » July 17th, 2019, 8:18 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Who will be the first to Pobega?

I cannot take actual delivery until Fall. It’s close to 119 degrees in Orlando, or something like that. My wine would be raspberry confit, though some modernists may like that.
If you ship it, you could always lick it~
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#33 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » July 17th, 2019, 10:27 am

Panzer says it has arrived!
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#34 Post by ybarselah » August 8th, 2019, 6:05 am

weird. heard a rumor that 17 and 18 are same? shenanigans? will crack this weekend.


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#35 Post by Robert Panzer » August 8th, 2019, 8:52 am

'14-'16 will say vin de France. '17 Côte Rôtie.
I drank the '15 two weeks ago, over a few days.
Gorgeous.
More elegant and less "solar" than when I had it with Pierre the last two visits....the intensity of violet/lavander florals in the mouth was stunning, to my taste.
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#36 Post by c fu » August 8th, 2019, 12:49 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 8:16 am
Who will be the first to Pobega?

I cannot take actual delivery until Fall. It’s close to 119 degrees in Orlando, or something like that. My wine would be raspberry confit, though some modernists may like that.
I think you’d like that now right?
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#37 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 8th, 2019, 1:03 pm

Send me some sexts! Incoming.....

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#38 Post by ybarselah » August 8th, 2019, 1:13 pm

Robert Panzer wrote:
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'14-'16 will say vin de France. '17 Côte Rôtie.
I drank the '15 two weeks ago, over a few days.
Gorgeous.
More elegant and less "solar" than when I had it with Pierre the last two visits....the intensity of violet/lavander florals in the mouth was stunning, to my taste.
good to know... do you happen to know what happened with the 2014? JLL says not produced and sold off in bulk.
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#39 Post by Robert Panzer » August 8th, 2019, 1:29 pm

As a few people have already detailed in this thread, the VA was crazy high in the Condrieu and Cordeloux '14, so Pierre sold it off in bulk.' 14 dolium is another story. In stock.
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#40 Post by Mike Cohen » August 8th, 2019, 1:40 pm

Robert Panzer wrote:
May 21st, 2019, 8:36 am
My warehouse is ideal temp/humidity 24/7/365.
I am quite proud of its efficiency, the total energy bill in August is around $100!!!
How big is your warehouse? Where is it? How is that even possible?

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#41 Post by ybarselah » August 8th, 2019, 1:45 pm

Robert Panzer wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 1:29 pm
As a few people have already detailed in this thread, the VA was crazy high in the Condrieu and Cordeloux '14, so Pierre sold it off in bulk.' 14 dolium is another story. In stock.
got it - JLL has wrong info then as he has the Dolium 2014 as bulk as well.

do you have any insight as to what happened with the VA? (JLL mentions it in the note of the 2015 cordeloux)
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#42 Post by ybarselah » August 8th, 2019, 1:56 pm

Mike Cohen wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 1:40 pm
Robert Panzer wrote:
May 21st, 2019, 8:36 am
My warehouse is ideal temp/humidity 24/7/365.
I am quite proud of its efficiency, the total energy bill in August is around $100!!!
How big is your warehouse? Where is it? How is that even possible?
context: this guy pays $250/month for water.
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#43 Post by Mike Cohen » August 8th, 2019, 1:58 pm

ybarselah wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Mike Cohen wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 1:40 pm
Robert Panzer wrote:
May 21st, 2019, 8:36 am
My warehouse is ideal temp/humidity 24/7/365.
I am quite proud of its efficiency, the total energy bill in August is around $100!!!
How big is your warehouse? Where is it? How is that even possible?
context: this guy pays $250/month for water.
LOL!

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#44 Post by Robert Panzer » August 9th, 2019, 5:28 am

My warehouse is around 2000 square feet. Small but mighty, or as the Delaware state slogan once read: "A Small Wonder".
The secret efficiency sauce? Two "overkill" Trenton refrigeration units, one of which pretty much never needs to kick on, and the main ingredient: incredibly thick (read overkill) spray foam insulation on every exterior wall/roof.
As to VA, as you may recall, '14 was the "year of the Suzuki" fly, and in certain places, it went nuts.
Pierre refused to put his name on the Cordeloux wine after élevage, as the VA was roughly triple what one would deem usual/acceptable.
There is a cooler, breezy microclimate in the combe where the Dolium is located (the lieu dit la Brune), so it wasn't affected in the same way as the Cordeloux.
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Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

#45 Post by ybarselah » August 9th, 2019, 6:53 am

Robert Panzer wrote:
August 9th, 2019, 5:28 am
My warehouse is around 2000 square feet. Small but mighty, or as the Delaware state slogan once read: "A Small Wonder".
The secret efficiency sauce? Two "overkill" Trenton refrigeration units, one of which pretty much never needs to kick on, and the main ingredient: incredibly thick (read overkill) spray foam insulation on every exterior wall/roof.
As to VA, as you may recall, '14 was the "year of the Suzuki" fly, and in certain places, it went nuts.
Pierre refused to put his name on the Cordeloux wine after élevage, as the VA was roughly triple what one would deem usual/acceptable.
There is a cooler, breezy microclimate in the combe where the Dolium is located (the lieu dit la Brune), so it wasn't affected in the same way as the Cordeloux.
very cool info....

so why the need to label VdF for future bottlings? what was the actual paperwork that wasn't filed?
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Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

#46 Post by ybarselah » August 10th, 2019, 6:26 am

well, cracked my first bottle of the 2015 with some excellent lamb last night and it was .... not right. opened to a perfect glistening purple color but turned garnet and mature very quickly (within an hour or so). quiet nose with almost zero discernable cote-rotie character, completely hollow mid, and bitter tannic, non-existent, finish. having had a 99 jamet the night before, the color on that wine was more vibrant than this one. and given the vintage and every other wine i've had from this vintage and appellation, this wine indicates something happened. this was procured locally a day after it arrived direct from Polaner, the NY distrib. i'll try another this week from the same batch, but my instinct at this point is that all the weirdness doesn't add up (2014 not released, was a very good vintage, and other vintages not being labeled cote-rotie).

curious if others have received their bottles and whether this is consistent.
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Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

#47 Post by Robert Panzer » August 10th, 2019, 7:35 am

That is very weird. Not at all my experience whatsoever, drinking it over three days, with no change in color at all, definitely the opposite of a hollow mid palate, silken texture with no bitterness whatsoever, and long resonant finish. My wife tried it as well all the way through, and when she doesn't like something, she is not shy about saying so.
Your attempted correlation with the 2014 vintage, one that Pierre had clearly decided not to release due to the volatile acidity levels (regularly and publicly/transparently declaring as much) has nothing to do with the delayed release and labeling issues of '15 etc. I don't think that you will find a ton of growers who would universally declare 2014 a very good red wine vintage. As with the suzuki flies in other regions of the country, it was isolated. When it was bad, it was bad.....you could smell it coming when you walked up. Another common knowledge anecdote, they favored locations against walls with little air circulation, where heat would radiate. There are a lot of very nice 2014 red N Rhône wines, but Pierre got kicked in the pants.
Again to clarify the labelling issue, if you don't keep up with your declarations paperwork with French customs, your right to sell wine is halted. Then, if that persists, your right to label things with the appellation lapses. It is kind of simple. There is no hidden agenda.
Very few of my people have received their bottles yet, fwiw.
I'm curious to hear how other bottles show for you, as the one you describe is 100% unrecognizable relative to my experience.
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Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

#48 Post by ybarselah » August 10th, 2019, 7:55 am

when did you have the bottle that you tasted over 3 days?
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Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

#49 Post by Robert Panzer » August 10th, 2019, 8:10 am

July 24th-July 26th.
On the first night, my wife and I went to a French bistro in Haddonfield, NJ called the Little Hen.
Mushroom tosts, duck frites, and the Cordeloux was freakin' great.
Then session number two the following evening, the wine was even better.
On the third day, equally good.
Did you:
-Drink it all in one sitting?
-Decant?
I can't say that I have ever experienced wine dramatically changing color in an hour.
Have other folks ever experienced such a thing?
I can't even fathom what could cause that.
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Re: Anyone seen, gotten, or received any 2015 Benetiere yet?

#50 Post by ybarselah » August 10th, 2019, 8:16 am

consumed over the course of 2 hours, did a quick double decant just to give it some air and sediment (only a little). served in zalto bdx stems.
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