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Re: 2020 West Coast Weather and Farming Thread

#501 Post by Merrill Lindquist » September 23rd, 2020, 7:38 am

My area has turned into a small city the last couple of days, with so much picking going on and the traffic it creates (a car for each picker, multiple tractors and trucks hauling bins full of fruit).

I think there is a heat spike forecast for this weekend - this is probably a rush to get them all in before then.
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#502 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 23rd, 2020, 6:23 pm

Done 510 tons, left 40+ in the field. Recap to follow.
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#503 Post by Sean Devaney » September 23rd, 2020, 11:38 pm

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Done 510 tons, left 40+ in the field. Recap to follow.
Wow 40+! Was that from one of your big contracts pulling out? Hate to think about all the hard work that you and your crew put in and just to leave so much fruit hanging. SMH

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#504 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 24th, 2020, 11:31 am

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I'm sure my crew would rather be paid piecework for picking rather than their usual hourly wage, but this is reality.
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#505 Post by Paul Gordon » September 24th, 2020, 12:23 pm

Casey

Why drop the fruit instead of just leaving for the birds/to rot on the vine?

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#506 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 24th, 2020, 12:35 pm

Paul Gordon wrote:
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Why drop the fruit instead of just leaving for the birds/to rot on the vine?

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I would rather not have the vines continuing to try to ripen the crop. Certainly want less botrytis spores in and on the wood. Plus it's a bad look for our region to see unpicked fruit for months on end.
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#507 Post by Kim Z » September 24th, 2020, 1:54 pm

Casey Hartlip wrote:
September 24th, 2020, 11:31 am
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I'm sure my crew would rather be paid piecework for picking rather than their usual hourly wage, but this is reality.
What a sad image. Can we fast-forward to 21 already champagne.gif
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#508 Post by Andrew Demaree » September 24th, 2020, 2:25 pm

Definitely sad to see.

Deer must gobble those clusters up, no?

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#509 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 24th, 2020, 2:58 pm

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Definitely sad to see.

Deer must gobble those clusters up, no?
We are 100% deer fenced.
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#510 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 24th, 2020, 4:37 pm

Hope y'all are following the smoke taint thread in wine talk.
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#511 Post by Roy Piper » September 24th, 2020, 10:07 pm

Brought in Moulds yesterday. Lab shows 26.5 brix, 3.8 TA, 3.80 pH. Pretty much the dream. Now we have to keep my fingers crossed but I am not getting my hopes up just in case.
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#512 Post by Roy Piper » September 24th, 2020, 10:08 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
September 23rd, 2020, 7:38 am
My area has turned into a small city the last couple of days, with so much picking going on and the traffic it creates (a car for each picker, multiple tractors and trucks hauling bins full of fruit).

I think there is a heat spike forecast for this weekend - this is probably a rush to get them all in before then.
I saw a possible Red Flag warning for this weekend when they day started, but it looks like that was taken off the board?
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#513 Post by Paul Gordon » September 27th, 2020, 7:18 pm

Wow what a difference a day can make - we had a high of 69F yesterday (Sat), a low of 51F then a high of 90F today. Warm the next 3-4 days with highs in the upper 80s.

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#514 Post by Casey Hartlip » September 29th, 2020, 3:13 pm

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Still need to do my 2020 recap. Pressed off our 75 gallons of Pinot yesterday and it's now settling in garbage cans. Going to go in this very fancy barrel on Friday.
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#515 Post by Al Osterheld » September 29th, 2020, 6:53 pm

Looks pretty new.

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#516 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 1st, 2020, 6:30 pm

Worst air quality that we've seen in weeks. Just horrible conditions. My crew and myself all went to the local clinic for a Covid test this morning. We had other projects planned but decided they should stay indoors with the shitty air.
On a personal note Lynne and I in the final stretch of our house sale. Met with movers yesterday (I'm not 35 anymore) to plan our move to Anderson Valley. Giving a third of my clothes away to goodwill. We've only lived at the Ukiah house for 13 years but BOY how we still have too much stuff!
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#517 Post by Al Osterheld » October 1st, 2020, 7:09 pm

The Covid tests were just on general principles for the end of harvest?

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#518 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 1st, 2020, 7:53 pm

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The Covid tests were just on general principles for the end of harvest?

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No sir, with harvest almost done, one of my 22 person crew became Ill. Tested positive for Covid-19
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#519 Post by Al Osterheld » October 1st, 2020, 8:18 pm

Yikes! Good luck to him or her and also to the rest of you.

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#520 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 2nd, 2020, 7:40 pm

Put our barrel of 2020 clone 23 Pinot to bed today. As we are low tech farmer folks, everything was done with gravity and siphon. Seems this wine will be more on the red fruit style compared to last year's darker complection. All the unsold fruit is dropped and in another day or so all cover crop will be drilled.
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#521 Post by Stewart Johnson » October 3rd, 2020, 11:39 pm

I closed out picking on Thurday night with 3 tons of syrah. It was only 22 brix, but the vines were just looking done for the year, and my pond is too empty to try to nurse them any further along. Most of the vineyard looks more vibrant than usual at this stage of the year, but syrah really pitches a fit at the first hint of water stress, and the third post-veraison heat wave was enough to make those vines call it a year.
With syrah (and chardonnay, for that matter), I'm more dependent on physiological markers than with some other things like pinot and viognier where I have some better worked out flavor attributes to factor into the picking calculation. This isn't helped by the fact that one of the markers, stem maturity, is nearly out of play with syrah, which seldom lignifies. The best you can hope for (ahead of superripeness) is a sort of neutrality to the flavor of chewed syrah stems. This was my 10th syrah vintage, and I still haven't fastened on a real organoleptic trigger in the berries themselves. So, it's down to numbers, seeds, skin texture, pulp consistency, vine appearance and gut feeling about whether there's any more to be gotten from hanging any longer.
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#522 Post by Paul Gordon » October 4th, 2020, 11:56 am

Picked our first grapes on Friday (10/2) - our Roussanne came in at 19.5b and Marsanne just under 23b. Pressed to 1.4 bar and no signs of smoke issues. I have had an experience with smoke tainted whites back in 2014, so I (unfortunately) know what to look for.
Acids a little on the low side mainly driven by lower Malic. We saw a lot of night-time ripening this year. Seems that tends to eat the acids a little but not push the brix.
Syrah pick targeted on Monday the 12th after the rain.

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#523 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 6th, 2020, 7:49 pm

Lynne and I in a state of chaos. Moving from our Ukiah mountain house to the job site in Anderson Valley. Both houses a disaster right now. Moving company due tomorrow for the big stuff. Had some great friends helping pack stuff the last two days.
A small group of my core guys have been fencing the front yard of the Philo house so Zip will have a safe space. Cover crop will be done tomorrow.
A carload of my other folks have been helping Greg Graziano get his crop in this week. They will likely be picking for a week.
Rain is predicted Saturday but seems like it's losing steam. Any help to the fire areas will help.
Looking forward to a simpler and quieter life in Philo. We've been on 172 acres with long private road, domestic water system that we have to monitor and somewhat difficult neighbors. Also tired of worries of fires with our location. It will be an adjustment for sure, but after living there for 5 weeks during harvest it's gonna be pretty nice.
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#524 Post by Merrill Lindquist » October 7th, 2020, 9:41 am

Stewart Johnson wrote:
October 3rd, 2020, 11:39 pm
I closed out picking on Thurday night with 3 tons of syrah. It was only 22 brix, but the vines were just looking done for the year, and my pond is too empty to try to nurse them any further along. Most of the vineyard looks more vibrant than usual at this stage of the year, but syrah really pitches a fit at the first hint of water stress, and the third post-veraison heat wave was enough to make those vines call it a year.
With syrah (and chardonnay, for that matter), I'm more dependent on physiological markers than with some other things like pinot and viognier where I have some better worked out flavor attributes to factor into the picking calculation. This isn't helped by the fact that one of the markers, stem maturity, is nearly out of play with syrah, which seldom lignifies. The best you can hope for (ahead of superripeness) is a sort of neutrality to the flavor of chewed syrah stems. This was my 10th syrah vintage, and I still haven't fastened on a real organoleptic trigger in the berries themselves. So, it's down to numbers, seeds, skin texture, pulp consistency, vine appearance and gut feeling about whether there's any more to be gotten from hanging any longer.
That gut feeling that things won't improve is, to me, one of the best indicators. It is what saved the Black Cat in 2011.
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#525 Post by Karen Troisi » October 9th, 2020, 7:19 am

Good luck with the move Casey.
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#526 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 9th, 2020, 6:06 pm

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the Ukiah house pretty empty.
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Philo house looked like a furniture store yesterday.
AND my barrel of Pinot is simmering away going thru Malo.
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#527 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 12th, 2020, 11:03 am

38 degrees this morning in Philo. The move is basically over but it will take weeks to sort shit out. As I was here for the 6 weeks of harvest it feels good already.
Took Zip for a morning vineyard walk.
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What a spectacular place this is. The cool morning air free of smoke was such a welcoming thing.
Some of my crew still helping others pick their grapes, others trimming Mendos 'other' crop. Sure was helpful to have an early harvest so as not to conflict with the move. But we are tired!
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#528 Post by Merrill Lindquist » October 13th, 2020, 5:04 pm

I am still waiting on labs....

I did get the cover crop in yesterday...now a little rain and that will do its job.

We are under another fire alert starting Wednesday evening and going through Friday. Please say it's not true.
I expect to be without power from 6:00 pm Wednesday until 6pm Friday. I have filled my gallon jugs of water for household use, have put water on the yard spaces, cleaned the roof of debris. Ready.
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#529 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 13th, 2020, 5:36 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
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I am still waiting on labs....

I did get the cover crop in yesterday...now a little rain and that will do its job.

We are under another fire alert starting Wednesday evening and going through Friday. Please say it's not true.
I expect to be without power from 6:00 pm Wednesday until 6pm Friday. I have filled my gallon jugs of water for household use, have put water on the yard spaces, cleaned the roof of debris. Ready.
So happy to NOT be living on the top of a dry mountain anymore. Kind of like you Merrill, surrounded by vineyards now. Indian summer now. Somewhat cool mornings with beautiful daytime temps. Don't get me wrong, I'd give just about anything for a inch and a half cool rain right now.
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#530 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 16th, 2020, 4:16 pm

What a trip. 38 this morning......98 this afternoon.
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#531 Post by R M Kriete » October 17th, 2020, 12:58 pm

Casey Hartlip wrote:
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What a trip. 38 this morning......98 this afternoon.
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#532 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 19th, 2020, 6:01 am

The Indian summer/drought continues. It's hard not to enjoy the weather but the 10 day shows nothing upstream. Bummer.
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#533 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 20th, 2020, 9:08 am

Update on my barrel of Pinot: my friends at Roederer did labs for me this morning. 15% ALC....oops on the water add! It's not dry yet and not thru malo yet either. My warehouse is around 60-65 degrees so we're going stir the lees and move it outside during the warm hours of the day. It still has 2.8 RS which is troubling with that ALC. If it won't go dry, it won't happen. I don't have a way to sterile filter a lot that small. Not happy.
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#534 Post by Al Osterheld » October 20th, 2020, 9:40 am

Yowza, you had some efficient yeast.

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#535 Post by Stewart Johnson » October 20th, 2020, 11:31 am

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Update on my barrel of Pinot: my friends at Roederer did labs for me this morning. 15% ALC....oops on the water add! It's not dry yet and not thru malo yet either. My warehouse is around 60-65 degrees some we're going stir the Lee's and love it outside during the warm hours of the day. It still has 2.8 RS which is troubling with that ALC. If it won't go dry, it won't happen. I don't have a way to sterile filter a lot that small. No happy.
I'm halfway thru the re-start protocol on a lot of PN that stuck at 6g/L -- mostly fructose. Just about my least favorite job in the winery. This time, I brilliantly timed it so I had to stay at the winery last night and get up every couple hours to check the brix drop on the initial step of the re-start. You have to catch it at the right point to move on to the next addition, and I've gotten lazy and missed that point in a prior re-start ordeal. I guess there was no reason to expect this harvest to close any better than it commenced.
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#536 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 20th, 2020, 12:39 pm

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We added 10 gallons of water to the must! Still missed it!
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#537 Post by Tom DeBiase » October 23rd, 2020, 4:10 pm

Not trying to alarm anyone, just reporting what is on the news this afternoon. The weather forecasters are projecting a "20 YEAR WIND EVENT" starting Sunday late night, early Monday morning. Winds on the hilltops forecasted to routinely hit 60-70 MPH during that time with some gusts to 100 MPH. The actual red flag alert lasts until Tuesday.

Good luck to all (including us) and pray that the event is not as bad as forecasted.

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#538 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 23rd, 2020, 5:14 pm

Tom DeBiase wrote:
October 23rd, 2020, 4:10 pm
Not trying to alarm anyone, just reporting what is on the news this afternoon. The weather forecasters are projecting a "20 YEAR WIND EVENT" starting Sunday late night, early Monday morning. Winds on the hilltops forecasted to routinely hit 60-70 MPH during that time with some gusts to 100 MPH. The actual red flag alert lasts until Tuesday.

Good luck to all (including us) and pray that the event is not as bad as forecasted.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 669472.php
This year just seems to keep handing out the pain. Probably going to shut off a bunch of electricity as a precaution, which I think would be smart. But I think there's always some unhinged freaks out there looking to destroy stuff. So I too pray for my fellow citizens that we can somehow avoid further loss of life and property.
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#539 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 24th, 2020, 8:53 am

First fire of the year....in the wood stove that is. 42 and a thick fog here this morning. Everything wet and drippy outside. Visability about 100 yards. Predicted to hit 77 this afternoon. Having the family over for dinner to see the ranch house this afternoon. Currently we are not predicted to lose power with the upcoming weather event.
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#540 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 24th, 2020, 3:44 pm

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Obviously there's a touch of subsoil moisture in this spot. Cover crop begging for moisture.
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#541 Post by Merrill Lindquist » October 25th, 2020, 9:44 am

COLD HERE THESE PAST FEW MORNINGS, AND CERTAINLY NOT HOT DURING THE AFTERNOONS. oh, my caps were on, and I am not going to re-do.

They are threatening to turn our electricity off AGAIN around 4-8 pm today. Lasting until at least Tuesday at 10 pm. What a drag. The thought is that if the electricity is off, and the big wind storm comes (along with low humidity), there will be no downed lines to start a fire.

Other than that, not much going on with weather or farming. The vineyard has been put to bed, but is still showing a substantial canopy. It's a nice time of year to enjoy the vineyard without the tug of thinking I should be doing somethig out there!
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#542 Post by Merrill Lindquist » October 25th, 2020, 4:59 pm

Electricity went out at 3:40 here. They are not kidding around.
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#543 Post by Casey Hartlip » October 25th, 2020, 7:16 pm

Called my old neighbors this afternoon and they are without power too.

I'm feeling fall and have a chick roast thawing out. A gift from one of my guys who I help facilitate them raising two nice steers. Totally grass fed and finished it should display some great AV flavors. Pics in the morning! Please no fires tonight!
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#544 Post by Edward H. Earles » October 26th, 2020, 5:09 pm

Accuweather is predicting a near-apocalypse for Southern California. Y'all be careful.

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