Wine fridge, 1, 2 or 3 zone?

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Wine fridge, 1, 2 or 3 zone?

#1 Post by Giorgio O » June 28th, 2020, 10:30 am

Hi all,

I am currently debating whether to get this wine cooler (2-zone):

Liebherr WTes 5972 Vinidor https://home.liebherr.com/en/gbr/produc ... -5972.html

or the same cooler in a 3 zone variety:

Liebherr WTes 5872 Vinidor https://home.liebherr.com/en/gbr/produc ... -5872.html

I heard Liebherr is the top of the line in these products. However, I don't know if a 3-zone model, or a 2-zone for that matter, is worth it.

For context, I also have a cellar I can convert to a wine cellar, but it's a bit of an effort to go down there every time. So I was thinking of storing all my wine (roughly 120 bottles at the moment) in my house at serving temperature. Also, the wines range from 20-200 a bottle with some of the nice stuff being intended to age 5-10 years before I drink it.
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Re: Wine fridge, 1, 2 or 3 zone?

#2 Post by Michael O'Brien » June 28th, 2020, 1:23 pm

I use my Eurocave cabinets solely to store and mature wine. Both red and white wine safely store and mature well at 55 degrees fahrenheit which is a rule of thumb average storage temperature. A few degrees one way or another will not make much of a difference. Stability of temperature will. I have stored both white and red wines for decades in my cabinets. Others may disagree but the only value I see for a 2 zone cabinet is to store some wine at nearer to serving temperature but that is neither safe nor practical. There is a big difference in appropriate serving temperatures depending on the variety and in some cases the residual sugar content of the wine. And if you store many red wines at their serving temperature, you could be hastening their maturity. Also, my inventory is dynamic so my storage requirements per zone would change frequently making accommodating my inventory difficult.

It gets down to what you want to accomplish with your wine cabinet. Safe, long-term storage of wine or storage for short-term consumption requires only a single zone cabinet. Think about your wine cabinet like you would a proper wine cellar or an off-site storage facility. Neither of those will have multiple temperature zones. They are designed to safely store wine for the long term.
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#3 Post by Giorgio O » June 28th, 2020, 1:28 pm

Hmm, that seems to be the most common reply. The plan is to have wine ready to drink at serving temperature in the living room (roughly 150 bottles for consumption within 48 months), and when my collection grows enough, convert an underground cellar (some effort to access) for longer term (5+) year storage. Would that be worth it?
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#4 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » June 28th, 2020, 2:21 pm

Giorgio O wrote:
June 28th, 2020, 1:28 pm
Hmm, that seems to be the most common reply. The plan is to have wine ready to drink at serving temperature in the living room (roughly 150 bottles for consumption within 48 months), and when my collection grows enough, convert an underground cellar (some effort to access) for longer term (5+) year storage. Would that be worth it?
There’s no real point in dual zone; it’s easy enough to chill whites to drink in just a couple minutes. I use a eurocave sowine to make things even easier.

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#5 Post by Michael Martin » June 28th, 2020, 2:53 pm

Single zone fridges are still in essence dual zone. They are colder at the bottom than the top.

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#6 Post by Giorgio O » June 28th, 2020, 2:55 pm

Ok, thanks for the advice. After looking around I think I will end up getting the dual-zone. It's worth for me to have whites and bubblies ready at serving temp whenever I want. However, I will stay away from the 3 zone due to less space.
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#7 Post by scamhi » June 28th, 2020, 3:12 pm

get a single zone. easier and cheaper
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#8 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » June 28th, 2020, 3:14 pm

Seems like a big fridge for dual zone, but w/e; under counter fridge for that seems best. We inherited one with the house but the entire thing is full of grand Marque champgne

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#9 Post by Albert R » June 28th, 2020, 3:17 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
June 28th, 2020, 2:53 pm
Single zone fridges are still in essence dual zone. They are colder at the bottom than the top.
^^^This. You also gain a bit more storage.
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#10 Post by Philip Liao » June 28th, 2020, 4:52 pm

Another vote for single zone. I find that in multiple zones, the zones are always battling each other and constantly running the compressor, even Eurocave.

I also use this chilled drink calculator for how long to chill: https://www.omnicalculator.com/food/chi ... ling-hacks

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#11 Post by Giorgio O » June 28th, 2020, 5:01 pm

You guys have got me thinking. I am still leaning with the 2 zone, since it just looks great and I found a decent price for it, but I'll talk to the rest of the family and see what they think.
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#12 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » June 28th, 2020, 6:57 pm

Dual zone just doesn’t really make sense for what you’re proposing. I don’t even use the dual zone kitchen fridge I have for that purpose. There are few scenarios where you need to be able to pull ANY wine at a moment’s notice without time to get it to the right temperature. I have my dual zone fridge with both zones set to 45 and it full of Krug, cristal, and Dom, with a few bottles of PYCM.

Most of the time you can plan what you’re going to pull and even if you have a spur of the moment decision it doesn’t take long to get something from 55 to 45, 2-3 min in a bucket of ice and water or the freezer.

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#13 Post by Michael O'Brien » June 28th, 2020, 9:24 pm

Giorgio O wrote:
June 28th, 2020, 5:01 pm
You guys have got me thinking. I am still leaning with the 2 zone, since it just looks great and I found a decent price for it, but I'll talk to the rest of the family and see what they think.
Looks like you have made up your mind. You can certainly make the choice you wish. For me, the extra cost buys nothing. Thirty minutes in the refrigerator will chill a Champagne, German Riesling or any other wine that needs to be served colder. While that requires a little planning ahead, you will have plan ahead for red wines too. They need to warm up from storage temperature.

Simplistic but good chart as a guideline.
https://winefolly.com/tips/white-red-wine-temperature/
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#14 Post by YLee » July 8th, 2020, 12:44 pm

Single zone anything else is useless and waste of money.
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#15 Post by Giorgio O » July 8th, 2020, 1:08 pm

Ended up getting the two zone, mostly for the convenience factor for less wine-literate family members.
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