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#2401 Post by **Michel Abood** » March 19th, 2020, 10:07 am

Dennis Atick wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2020, 11:20 am

The BLT Group did too, saying they wanted to make sure their employees could get unemployment before the tidal wave of requests hit. Maybe that was USHG's rationale too. This is going to be bad, very bad. My heart goes out to all the hard-working restauranteurs affected.

Dennis Atick · #2402 Post by **Dennis Atick** » March 19th, 2020, 10:54 am

Michel Abood wrote: ↑
March 19th, 2020, 10:07 am

Dennis Atick wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2020, 11:20 am

The BLT Group did too, saying they wanted to make sure their employees could get unemployment before the tidal wave of requests hit. Maybe that was USHG's rationale too. This is going to be bad, very bad. My heart goes out to all the hard-working restauranteurs affected.

It is so sad. Metro-ATL restaurants are basically shut down and many have started Go Fund Me pages for the thousands of food service workers laid off this week. Switching over to curbside takeout service is a temporary and very small patch, but dark days are ahead.

#2403 Post by **mark rudner** » March 23rd, 2020, 12:50 pm

just for shits and giggles in these stressed times, how about posting what and where you're ordering take-out
dentice?

#2404 Post by **Robert Dentice** » March 23rd, 2020, 1:19 pm

mark rudner wrote: ↑
March 23rd, 2020, 12:50 pm
just for shits and giggles in these stressed times, how about posting what and where you're ordering take-out
dentice?

Well we started out strong on Friday at Secchu Yokota. We went over for lunch and decided to have a picnic on the street!

Then Atoboy on Saturday.

While Renee made Chicken and Morels in between.

Then BOOM I was hit with the flu. I am pretty sure it is not COVID-19 but Renee did come into a direct contact with a client who tested positive and two or three people in my firm have tested positive so I am laying low.

Stay tuned for hopefully more take out!

#2405 Post by **mark rudner** » March 23rd, 2020, 2:21 pm

Be well Robert. I heard Riesling May in fact be the cure

#2406 Post by **J a y H a c k** » March 23rd, 2020, 8:37 pm

mark rudner wrote: ↑
March 23rd, 2020, 2:21 pm
Be well Robert. I heard Riesling May in fact be the cure

ABV is too low. SAXUM!!

#2407 Post by **Jay Miller** » March 24th, 2020, 7:34 am

Best wishes Robert, take care of yourself!

Zachary Ross · #2408 Post by **Zachary Ross** » April 2nd, 2020, 7:28 pm

You ok Robert?

#2409 Post by **Robert Dentice** » April 3rd, 2020, 3:51 am

Zachary Ross wrote: ↑
April 2nd, 2020, 7:28 pm
You ok Robert?

Thanks for asking, finally over it after two weeks! Had my first glass of Riesling last night, after two weeks of no wine, with Cagen delivery.

#2410 Post by **Jay Miller** » April 3rd, 2020, 5:48 am

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
April 3rd, 2020, 3:51 am

Zachary Ross wrote: ↑
April 2nd, 2020, 7:28 pm
You ok Robert?
Thanks for asking, finally over it after two weeks!

Very happy to hear it!

#2411 Post by **Len Fox** » April 3rd, 2020, 9:35 am

Hi Robert
So pleased to hear you are well and back at it again. What was it some 3 weeks ago my wife Meri joined you for a casual lunch and now the world is a different place. Aaron, Meri and I are well, ensconced in our apartment in Helsinki. We've had a very nice take out meal from one star Inari and tomorrow to celebrate our anniversary a take out from1* Demo.
Eat well. Drink well. Be Well.

#2412 Post by **Robert Dentice** » April 3rd, 2020, 9:47 am

Thanks Jay and Len.

Len - Yes that lunch seems like a long time ago! I was looking forward to doing it again when you were available. We still can it just might be a bit longer out.

#2413 Post by **Robert Dentice** » April 17th, 2020, 9:34 am

Sad that this thread is dormant! I will add some thoughts on recent delivery meals / take out meals.

Cagen - They are killing it! Last nights meal was fantastic!

Ops - Had to Uber over to pick it up. My overall most enjoyable take out meal of the pandemic. It just made me so happy. Will be going back this weekend.

Rezdora - Only ordered once but it was impressive

Secchu Yokota - Ordered a few times getting better each time

Atoboy - Ordered a few times getting better each time

Jua - Only ordered once, the chicken was very good

I would also add the USQ Farmers Market has been very good. Ramps are in season!

#2414 Post by **mark rudner** » April 17th, 2020, 12:57 pm

nice work robert!!
as you can imagine i have no such access to great food out here
keep it up and c u soon

#2415 Post by **Robert Dentice** » April 17th, 2020, 1:08 pm

mark rudner wrote: ↑
April 17th, 2020, 12:57 pm
nice work robert!!
as you can imagine i have no such access to great food out here
keep it up and c u soon

Do you have open a Farmer's market?

#2416 Post by **mark rudner** » April 18th, 2020, 8:15 am

read a piece in a recent dining section of the nyt and they mentioned a company that ships their pizzas from napoli and the price wasn't silliness.
i think i ordered 5 margaritas for about $60 and it included shipping.
yesterday the box arrived and it was perfect. fantastic shipping materials, although it's a lot of material to throw away.
last night we set the oven to 425 and 11 minutes later ate a pizza that's 90% as good as something like keste, starita etc

i highly recommend giving it a try for those of us who don't have access to what robert d does

https://taliadinapoli.com/

Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡ · #2417 Post by **Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡** » April 19th, 2020, 7:34 pm

RD - is Ops operating on different hours? Might bike over there (or to Leo) for a pie...

#2418 Post by **Robert Dentice** » April 20th, 2020, 4:07 am

Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡ wrote: ↑
April 19th, 2020, 7:34 pm
RD - is Ops operating on different hours? Might bike over there (or to Leo) for a pie...

Ops is pickup only, you have to call ahead. Hours are Wednesday to Friday 5-9:30, Saturday and Sunday 12-9:30.

#2419 Post by **Paul Jaouen** » April 20th, 2020, 8:27 am

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
April 17th, 2020, 9:34 am
Sad that this thread is dormant! I will add some thoughts on recent delivery meals / take out meals.

Cagen - They are killing it! Last nights meal was fantastic!

The only food I miss during these self isolation times is sushi. And I really, really miss it.

Mike Cohen · #2420 Post by **Mike Cohen** » April 20th, 2020, 9:47 am

Paul Jaouen wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2020, 8:27 am
The only food I miss during these self isolation times is sushi. And I really, really miss it.

We've obviously been cooking a ton and frankly have only ordered in (pizza) twice in the past five weeks. I do miss sushi, but that lack of places that I really enjoy by us makes it an easy pass for me. Where do you like to get sushi from by us?

I am seriously concerned for the future of OHS, Common Lot and other local favs.

#2421 Post by **Ethan Abraham** » April 20th, 2020, 10:21 am

Mike Cohen wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2020, 9:47 am

Paul Jaouen wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2020, 8:27 am
The only food I miss during these self isolation times is sushi. And I really, really miss it.
We've obviously been cooking a ton and frankly have only ordered in (pizza) twice in the past five weeks. I do miss sushi, but that lack of places that I really enjoy by us makes it an easy pass for me. Where do you like to get sushi from by us?

I am seriously concerned for the future of OHS, Common Lot and other local favs.

Me too. Keep debating doing the hour drive in and out of the city to get sushi but not sure if the sushi will even travel well enough to make it worthwhile.

#2422 Post by **Jay Miller** » April 20th, 2020, 10:27 am

Paul Jaouen wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2020, 8:27 am

The only food I miss during these self isolation times is sushi. And I really, really miss it.

It's all your fault Paul. After reading this I started craving sushi so I called one of my favorite local spots to see if they were doing take out. It isn't Cagen level but it hit the spot. And it was an invigorating 15 minute walk so there is that as well. Got to check in on a lilac bush I enjoy visiting in the Spring but it was only just starting to bud. Everyone was observing good social distancing and wearing masks.

Weird to see the deserted streets as it's in a primarily office neighborhood near where I work.

#2423 Post by **Paul Jaouen** » April 20th, 2020, 10:42 am

Mike Cohen wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2020, 9:47 am

Paul Jaouen wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2020, 8:27 am
The only food I miss during these self isolation times is sushi. And I really, really miss it.
We've obviously been cooking a ton and frankly have only ordered in (pizza) twice in the past five weeks. I do miss sushi, but that lack of places that I really enjoy by us makes it an easy pass for me. Where do you like to get sushi from by us?

I am seriously concerned for the future of OHS, Common Lot and other local favs.

Mike, totally agree there are no places around here that I enjoy. My sushi places are all in NYC and therefore the craving. We cooked something like 36 days in a row and finally got take out at Le Rendezvous on Friday. I'm surprised that OHS, Common Lot and a few others did not try to do take out. I really hope they bounce back.

#2424 Post by **Robert Dentice** » April 26th, 2020, 7:28 am

Pandemic be damned it is Ramp time and Ops is open and serving one of my all time pizzas!

Mike Reff · #2425 Post by **Mike Reff** » April 26th, 2020, 3:07 pm

Made a chicken Tetrazzini, paired well with a Mezcal and Ginger beer!

#2426 Post by **mark rudner** » May 8th, 2020, 9:22 am

https://ny.eater.com/2020/5/8/21248604/ ... oronavirus

some surprises on this list. clearly, this isn't the end of the bad news.

#2427 Post by **Robert Dentice** » May 14th, 2020, 4:02 am

Sad day for NYC dining. Ssäm moving to the Seaport is just horrible. It is by far one of the most important restaurants in the last 25 years. The 3 star Frank Bruni NY Times review was a seminal moment in U.S. dining. I sat next to him on at least one of his dinners prior to the review. I think Ssäm was the soul of Momofuku.

https://ny.eater.com/2020/5/13/21257701 ... ng-changes

NY Times Review...worth a read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/dini ... 3rest.html

#2428 Post by **Robert Dentice** » May 14th, 2020, 4:13 am

And another blow to my beloved neighborhood - Jewel Bako closing. I can't tell you how many great nights I have had here!

https://evgrieve.com/2020/05/jewel-bako ... osing.html

R@y.Tupp@+sch · #2429 Post by **R@y.Tupp@+sch** » May 14th, 2020, 6:22 am

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 4:13 am
And another blow to my beloved neighborhood - Jewel Bako closing. I can't tell you how many great nights I have had here!

https://evgrieve.com/2020/05/jewel-bako ... osing.html

Sorry to hear about Jewel Bako. It was the first "real" sushi restaurant that I took my older daughter to about 15 years ago. While not a regular, I probably ate there with her about ten times. Also hosted a couple of Champagne dinners there.
These restaurant closings are just terrible.

Victor Hong · #2430 Post by **Victor Hong** » May 14th, 2020, 9:47 am

Union Square Hospitality Group dining rooms will not re-open until a widely implemented vaccine.

#2431 Post by **Barry L i p t o n** » May 14th, 2020, 10:02 am

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 4:02 am
Sad day for NYC dining. Ssäm moving to the Seaport is just horrible. It is by far one of the most important restaurants in the last 25 years. The 3 star Frank Bruni NY Times review was a seminal moment in U.S. dining. I sat next to him on at least one of his dinners prior to the review. I think Ssäm was the soul of Momofuku.

https://ny.eater.com/2020/5/13/21257701 ... ng-changes

NY Times Review...worth a read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/dini ... 3rest.html

Unusual choice of location for Ssam Bar, and seems like it would never attract the same level of locals. Maybe easier to get out of the lease there than the seaport? Sad news.

#2432 Post by **Robert Dentice** » May 14th, 2020, 11:34 am

Barry L i p t o n wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 10:02 am

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 4:02 am
Sad day for NYC dining. Ssäm moving to the Seaport is just horrible. It is by far one of the most important restaurants in the last 25 years. The 3 star Frank Bruni NY Times review was a seminal moment in U.S. dining. I sat next to him on at least one of his dinners prior to the review. I think Ssäm was the soul of Momofuku.

https://ny.eater.com/2020/5/13/21257701 ... ng-changes

NY Times Review...worth a read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/dini ... 3rest.html
Unusual choice of location for Ssam Bar, and seems like it would never attract the same level of locals. Maybe easier to get out of the lease there than the seaport? Sad news.

Restaurants generally get lots of incentives including free rent to go to places like South Street Seaport where the developers need help attracting long term higher paying tenants.

It is very sad the soul of Momo was the East Village and now they are a Private Equity backed company with locations in Hudson Yards, Time Warner Center, South Street Seaport and Las Vegas.

#2433 Post by **Robert Dentice** » May 14th, 2020, 11:35 am

Victor Hong wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 9:47 am
Union Square Hospitality Group dining rooms will not re-open until a widely implemented vaccine.

Well that is not happening for 12-18 months so we will see if they hold to this.

Zachary Ross · #2434 Post by **Zachary Ross** » May 16th, 2020, 11:33 am

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 11:34 am

Barry L i p t o n wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 10:02 am

Robert Dentice wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2020, 4:02 am
Sad day for NYC dining. Ssäm moving to the Seaport is just horrible. It is by far one of the most important restaurants in the last 25 years. The 3 star Frank Bruni NY Times review was a seminal moment in U.S. dining. I sat next to him on at least one of his dinners prior to the review. I think Ssäm was the soul of Momofuku.

https://ny.eater.com/2020/5/13/21257701 ... ng-changes

NY Times Review...worth a read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/dini ... 3rest.html
Unusual choice of location for Ssam Bar, and seems like it would never attract the same level of locals. Maybe easier to get out of the lease there than the seaport? Sad news.
Restaurants generally get lots of incentives including free rent to go to places like South Street Seaport where the developers need help attracting long term higher paying tenants.

It is very sad the soul of Momo was the East Village and now they are a Private Equity backed company with locations in Hudson Yards, Time Warner Center, South Street Seaport and Las Vegas.

Totally agree. Hard not to feel that the soul of Ssam Bar will be gutted by this move. The restaurant was a mindblower when it opened and I have enjoyed eating there and observing the shifts in menu etc. over the years. I suppose I will give it a try at the new location, once history restarts.

#2435 Post by **Jay Miller** » May 23rd, 2020, 5:35 am

I ordered the Katz's dinner for 4 and it arrived Thursday.

So far:
The half sour pickles were very good (there was a choice of sour or half sour), the pastrami was great, the cinnamon babka was terrible (there was a choice of cinnamon or chocolate), the rye bread was good, the mustard was good. Still to try are the corned beef and the matzoh ball soup.

Edited to add: The matzoh ball soup was pretty bad. Not as bad as the babka, but not very good.

Edited again to add: The corned beef was pretty so-so.

In the end I'd say

Pastrami: A-
Half Sour Pickles: A-
Rye bread: B+
Corned Beef: C
Matzoh Ball Soup: D
Cinnamon Babka: F

Ramon C · #2436 Post by **Ramon C** » May 23rd, 2020, 8:38 am

Jay, eat straight from box or did you need to warm up the sandwiches ?

#2437 Post by **Jay Miller** » May 23rd, 2020, 9:06 am

Ramon C wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2020, 8:38 am
Jay, eat straight from box or did you need to warm up the sandwiches ?

the meats come frozen in vacuum sealed packages and need to be thawed and then heated (they recommend 7 minutes in boiling water). I put the corned beef in the freezer and started on the pastrami.

#2438 Post by **Barry L i p t o n** » May 23rd, 2020, 11:16 am

The ones I got were sealed one pound packages, making the freezing option easy. Free shipping over $100, so that's basically 3 lbs of meat. One for now, two for the freezer.

Ramon C · #2439 Post by **Ramon C** » May 23rd, 2020, 2:45 pm

Jay Miller wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2020, 9:06 am

Ramon C wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2020, 8:38 am
Jay, eat straight from box or did you need to warm up the sandwiches ?
the meats come frozen in vacuum sealed packages and need to be thawed and then heated (they recommend 7 minutes in boiling water). I put the corned beef in the freezer and started on the pastrami.

OK, I misunderstood. Twice we ordered made sandwiches before, 12 of them. Came with all garnishes, the pickles and slaws. Ours were made/delivered same day.

#2440 Post by **Michael Sopher** » May 24th, 2020, 2:16 pm

Jay Miller wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2020, 5:35 am
I ordered the Katz's dinner for 4 and it arrived Thursday.

So far:
The half sour pickles were very good (there was a choice of sour or half sour), the pastrami was great, the cinnamon babka was terrible (there was a choice of cinnamon or chocolate), the rye bread was good, the mustard was good. Still to try are the corned beef and the matzoh ball soup.

Edited to add: The matzoh ball soup was pretty bad. Not as bad as the babka, but not very good.

Their soup is bad in the deli too. Sarge's soup on the other hand is awesome.... and the pastrami is my 2nd or 3rd choice in NYC

#2441 Post by **Robert Dentice** » June 1st, 2020, 9:50 am

Since I can't post restaurant visits on this thread I thought I would mention that I was finally able to try Llama San as they are now doing take out. Llama San is focused on Nikkei cuisine. Easily one of the best delivery experiences since COVID started. We were craving something different than our usual rotation and this was outstanding / comforting. Can't wait to visit the restaurant.

https://www.theinfatuation.com/new-york ... /llama-san

If by chance anyone happens to go to Greenport, NY I also had excellent friend chicken delivered to our hotel from a new spot called Ellens on Front - Sweet tea brined with hot sauce honey butter (on the side) and basil. Just outstanding!

https://www.ellensonfront.com/takeout

#2442 Post by **Mark Golodetz** » June 1st, 2020, 11:40 am

Michael Sopher wrote: ↑
May 24th, 2020, 2:16 pm

Jay Miller wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2020, 5:35 am
I ordered the Katz's dinner for 4 and it arrived Thursday.

So far:
The half sour pickles were very good (there was a choice of sour or half sour), the pastrami was great, the cinnamon babka was terrible (there was a choice of cinnamon or chocolate), the rye bread was good, the mustard was good. Still to try are the corned beef and the matzoh ball soup.

Edited to add: The matzoh ball soup was pretty bad. Not as bad as the babka, but not very good.
Their soup is bad in the deli too. Sarge's soup on the other hand is awesome.... and the pastrami is my 2nd or 3rd choice in NYC

The matzo balls at Katz’ could be certified as weapons and lobbed into Gaza every time they send rockets into Israel. Heavy nasty, all bulk rather than flavor. The pastrami is overrated but edible. But yes, the pickles are good.

#2443 Post by **mark rudner** » June 18th, 2020, 7:21 am

c'mon dentice
there's got to be more food pics since last time
i for one am really missing your posts

#2444 Post by **Robert Dentice** » June 23rd, 2020, 7:32 am

Its been a long time!

Lunch on the street in front of Gem. First time I have ever had a Brandade sandwich. It is some form of Salted Cod. It was excellent. And so wonderful to see Chef Flynn and to be somewhat eating at a restaurant albeit on their front sidewalk.

#2445 Post by **Dan Hammer** » June 23rd, 2020, 8:18 am

Michael Sopher wrote: ↑
May 24th, 2020, 2:16 pm

Jay Miller wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2020, 5:35 am
I ordered the Katz's dinner for 4 and it arrived Thursday.

So far:
The half sour pickles were very good (there was a choice of sour or half sour), the pastrami was great, the cinnamon babka was terrible (there was a choice of cinnamon or chocolate), the rye bread was good, the mustard was good. Still to try are the corned beef and the matzoh ball soup.

Edited to add: The matzoh ball soup was pretty bad. Not as bad as the babka, but not very good.
Their soup is bad in the deli too. Sarge's soup on the other hand is awesome.... and the pastrami is my 2nd or 3rd choice in NYC

Sarge's at lunch has a full list of specials for $20, and they don't cheap out.

#2446 Post by **mark rudner** » June 23rd, 2020, 8:53 am

sounds like a great menu robert. just wondering how you sit outside in the sun when you always wear black

thanks for posting. hopefully soon it will go back to "normal"

cheers

#2447 Post by **Barry L i p t o n** » June 23rd, 2020, 9:09 am

Mark Golodetz wrote: ↑
June 1st, 2020, 11:40 am

Michael Sopher wrote: ↑
May 24th, 2020, 2:16 pm

Jay Miller wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2020, 5:35 am
I ordered the Katz's dinner for 4 and it arrived Thursday.

So far:
The half sour pickles were very good (there was a choice of sour or half sour), the pastrami was great, the cinnamon babka was terrible (there was a choice of cinnamon or chocolate), the rye bread was good, the mustard was good. Still to try are the corned beef and the matzoh ball soup.

Edited to add: The matzoh ball soup was pretty bad. Not as bad as the babka, but not very good.
Their soup is bad in the deli too. Sarge's soup on the other hand is awesome.... and the pastrami is my 2nd or 3rd choice in NYC
The matzo balls at Katz’ could be certified as weapons and lobbed into Gaza every time they send rockets into Israel. Heavy nasty, all bulk rather than flavor. The pastrami is overrated but edible. But yes, the pickles are good.

Mark, who is your fave for pastrami? I do love Katz’s, but agree on the other items.

#2448 Post by **Robert Dentice** » June 23rd, 2020, 11:40 am

mark rudner wrote: ↑
June 23rd, 2020, 8:53 am
sounds like a great menu robert. just wondering how you sit outside in the sun when you always wear black

thanks for posting. hopefully soon it will go back to "normal"

cheers

It was hot! We were ok for the first 20-30 minutes but ultimately had to move under some shade.

#2449 Post by **Jay Miller** » June 23rd, 2020, 12:49 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote: ↑
June 23rd, 2020, 9:09 am

Mark Golodetz wrote: ↑
June 1st, 2020, 11:40 am

The matzo balls at Katz’ could be certified as weapons and lobbed into Gaza every time they send rockets into Israel. Heavy nasty, all bulk rather than flavor. The pastrami is overrated but edible. But yes, the pickles are good.
Mark, who is your fave for pastrami? I do love Katz’s, but agree on the other items.

I'm not Mark but while I really like Katz's pastrami I think the pastrami at David's Brisket in Brooklyn is better. But they don't ship.

#2450 Post by **Barry L i p t o n** » June 23rd, 2020, 1:18 pm

Jay Miller wrote: ↑
June 23rd, 2020, 12:49 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote: ↑
June 23rd, 2020, 9:09 am

Mark Golodetz wrote: ↑
June 1st, 2020, 11:40 am

The matzo balls at Katz’ could be certified as weapons and lobbed into Gaza every time they send rockets into Israel. Heavy nasty, all bulk rather than flavor. The pastrami is overrated but edible. But yes, the pickles are good.
Mark, who is your fave for pastrami? I do love Katz’s, but agree on the other items.
I'm not Mark but while I really like Katz's pastrami I think the pastrami at David's Brisket in Brooklyn is better. But they don't ship.

Intriguing, and a quick search says ther are others that agree with you. But location is a bit off the beaten path for when I return to NYC.

Katz has no shipping for orders over $99. I live near LA, but the only shipping from Langers I can get is through Goldbelly which claims free shipping but charges $139 for 2 lbs pastrami and one loaf of rye vs. $102 from Katz's for 3 lbs pastrami.