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#1 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 16th, 2019, 12:54 pm

I'm flying in to Philadelphia next week (Tue-Thu) and have only a little time (Basically Wednesday evening, maybe a little bit Wed morning) to check things out. I'm downtown, on Juniper St. - any recommendations for breakfast, lunch, dinner, or even touristy things I can do in that immediate area?
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#2 Post by Joe Dulworth » October 16th, 2019, 1:01 pm

I'm betting you're an easy, quick walk from the Liberty Bell, Independence Hall, Betsy Ross House, etc... All in a pretty tight cluster roughly 6-10 blocks from where you're staying is my guess.
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#3 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 16th, 2019, 1:24 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 12:54 pm
I'm flying in to Philadelphia next week (Tue-Thu) and have only a little time (Basically Wednesday evening, maybe a little bit Wed morning) to check things out. I'm downtown, on Juniper St. - any recommendations for breakfast, lunch, dinner, or even touristy things I can do in that immediate area?

All of the above plus the Benjamin Franklin Museum, which is small and easily seen in 45 min to an hour, but has a lot of interesting stuff in it. https://www.nps.gov/inde/planyourvisit/ ... museum.htm

The area around the Liberty Bell has great 18th-early 19th century architecture so it is fun just to walk around.

The Museum district is a quick cab ride away and there is a ton to see. The new Barnes is fantastic, as is the Phil Museum of Art and the Franklin Institute. Little Italy still has some authentic flavor (there are still some actual Italian residents in the area, so some great butcher and cheese shops). Great walking there.

Staying downtown I frequently have breakfast at Parc, overlooking Rittenhouse Square, I ALWAYS make time to have deli at the 4th Street Deli (one of the few remaining Jewish delis worth a side trip), and always plan on hitting John's Roast Pork for a steak and cheese (near the port, and nothing else you'll visit, so a cab/uber/drive). For a nice dining experience, we really enjoyed our meal at Fork, which is 2 blocks or so away from the Liberty Bell/Independence Hall

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#4 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 16th, 2019, 1:38 pm

Fantastic! Everything close by, it seems!
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#5 Post by M.Kaplan » October 16th, 2019, 1:39 pm

The best museum in Philadelphia and maybe the world is the Mütter Museum.

http://muttermuseum.org/
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#6 Post by George Hejna » October 16th, 2019, 1:50 pm

I will be there also. What more could you ask for?

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#7 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 16th, 2019, 2:00 pm

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I will be there also. What more could you ask for?

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#8 Post by Jay $$ Winton » October 16th, 2019, 2:35 pm

Gotta go to Reading Market for the experience.
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#9 Post by Steve Gautier » October 16th, 2019, 3:22 pm

Jay $$ Winton wrote:
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Gotta go to Reading Market for the experience.
Right around the corner from your hotel. Roast Pork at Dinic’s and Bassets ice cream
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#10 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 16th, 2019, 4:20 pm

For dinner, too late for reservations I'd guess, so go early and sit at the bar at Vernick. The food is excellent and the wine list is about as good as you get in PA. I'm avoiding recommending BYOs since you're in from out of town and might not be carrying wine. But the best BYO in town is Cadence, which is an Uber ride away in Fishtown. It's also too late for reservations at Zahav, but you can again go early and grab a seat at the bar.
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#11 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 16th, 2019, 4:23 pm

Steve Gautier wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 3:22 pm
Jay $$ Winton wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 2:35 pm
Gotta go to Reading Market for the experience.
Right around the corner from your hotel. Roast Pork at Dinic’s and Bassets ice cream
These places are inside Reading Terminal Market?
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#12 Post by Steve Gautier » October 16th, 2019, 4:28 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 4:23 pm
Steve Gautier wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 3:22 pm
Jay $$ Winton wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 2:35 pm
Gotta go to Reading Market for the experience.
Right around the corner from your hotel. Roast Pork at Dinic’s and Bassets ice cream
These places are inside Reading Terminal Market?
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#13 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 16th, 2019, 4:31 pm

Steve Gautier wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 4:28 pm
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 4:23 pm
Steve Gautier wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 3:22 pm


Right around the corner from your hotel. Roast Pork at Dinic’s and Bassets ice cream
These places are inside Reading Terminal Market?
Yes
Fantastic. Looks like a lunch place only - closes at 6pm
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#14 Post by Mike Cohen » October 16th, 2019, 4:41 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 1:39 pm
The best museum in Philadelphia and maybe the world is the Mütter Museum.

http://muttermuseum.org/
Was really hoping to find out about a cool art museum that I didn’t know about so I could take a drive down and combine a Zahav visit with this museum. Let’s just say it wasn’t what I was expecting.😂

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#15 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 16th, 2019, 4:45 pm

Mike Cohen wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 4:41 pm
M.Kaplan wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 1:39 pm
The best museum in Philadelphia and maybe the world is the Mütter Museum.

http://muttermuseum.org/
Was really hoping to find out about a cool art museum that I didn’t know about so I could take a drive down and combine a Zahav visit with this museum. Let’s just say it wasn’t what I was expecting.😂
Same here...
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Jay $$ Winton wrote:
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Gotta go to Reading Market for the experience.
Definitely this ^^
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#17 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 17th, 2019, 1:23 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 7:26 pm
Jay $$ Winton wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 2:35 pm
Gotta go to Reading Market for the experience.
Definitely this ^^
Beware - the crowds can be horrendous. I avoid it like the plague between 11:30 and 1:30, but others are much more tolerant than I am.
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#18 Post by George Hejna » October 17th, 2019, 6:45 am

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 1:23 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 7:26 pm
Jay $$ Winton wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 2:35 pm
Gotta go to Reading Market for the experience.
Definitely this ^^
Beware - the crowds can be horrendous. I avoid it like the plague between 11:30 and 1:30, but others are much more tolerant than I am.
I agree with this completely. It can be a madhouse.

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#19 Post by Mark Cochard » October 17th, 2019, 10:52 am

Todd, Lots of good reccs so far, here is a link to Philly Mags top 50 with links to their websites. Fishtown/Kensington and East Passyunk are Uber rides away.
https://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/50-best-restaurants/.

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#20 Post by mark rudner » October 17th, 2019, 1:16 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 1:24 pm
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 12:54 pm
I'm flying in to Philadelphia next week (Tue-Thu) and have only a little time (Basically Wednesday evening, maybe a little bit Wed morning) to check things out. I'm downtown, on Juniper St. - any recommendations for breakfast, lunch, dinner, or even touristy things I can do in that immediate area?

All of the above plus the Benjamin Franklin Museum, which is small and easily seen in 45 min to an hour, but has a lot of interesting stuff in it. https://www.nps.gov/inde/planyourvisit/ ... museum.htm

The area around the Liberty Bell has great 18th-early 19th century architecture so it is fun just to walk around.

The Museum district is a quick cab ride away and there is a ton to see. The new Barnes is fantastic, as is the Phil Museum of Art and the Franklin Institute. Little Italy still has some authentic flavor (there are still some actual Italian residents in the area, so some great butcher and cheese shops). Great walking there.

Staying downtown I frequently have breakfast at Parc, overlooking Rittenhouse Square, I ALWAYS make time to have deli at the 4th Street Deli (one of the few remaining Jewish delis worth a side trip), and always plan on hitting John's Roast Pork for a steak and cheese (near the port, and nothing else you'll visit, so a cab/uber/drive). For a nice dining experience, we really enjoyed our meal at Fork, which is 2 blocks or so away from the Liberty Bell/Independence Hall

We love Philly. A great city to walk.
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#21 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 17th, 2019, 2:02 pm

One more thing: If you love tea, the loose tea shop (for buying tea, not for drinking) down the block from 4th Street Deli is the best I have ever seen in the US by a wide margin.

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#22 Post by George Hejna » October 17th, 2019, 3:19 pm

Mark -

Fork is still really good. Will be eating there next week.

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#23 Post by Brian Lynch » October 18th, 2019, 6:34 am

I'd focus on hitting places that are near each other

Close Option #1
One new destination not mentioned, near you, is the Bar/Jean Georges on the Top Floor of the new Four Seasons in the new Comcast II Tower; grand cru experience and views; a must visit if only for a few drinks and apps

Close to the Four Seasons is the Barnes Museum, a newer museum in a classic style containing one of the top Impressionist collections

Close Option #2
Near your hotel is Rittenhouse Square, which is a great city park to walk to with great food/bar venues; to quote some above, add some and rank them, I'd suggest: Vernick (best food); Parc (French vibe and people watching fun); and off the park but nearby, Monk's Cafe with the deepest Belgian beer list (and library collections) in the US and great mussels/pub fare

Option #3
Reading Terminal Market; you won't see this in Orange County; DiNics is great but split a sandwich; if you don't get in line by 11:15, you won't have lunch there. That's ok because a good friend opened Umi Seafood and Sushi, his fourth venture and the only one not bearing a Bluefin name on it

Option #4
Olde City - I'd go with Cadence over Fork if headed that way; there is a pretty good wine shop across the street and you can byo at Cadence

Option 5
South Street
Tons of restaurants and bars including all day food at Hungry Pigeon and https://www.brauhausschmitz.com if you want to get your Oktoberfest on.
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#24 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 18th, 2019, 8:41 am

This is amazing - thanks everybody! I've got enough for a week...but I'm there basically one full day, a late evening, and that's it!
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#25 Post by Carlton McCrindle » October 19th, 2019, 5:33 am

The Barnes art museum is a must visit.

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#26 Post by Neal.Mollen » October 20th, 2019, 8:44 am

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The Barnes art museum is a must visit.
Yeah, if you are an art museum guy, it would be my #1 must-see in Phil. If not, the history walking tour around Independence Hall is absolutely must-see. I haven't done this so can't really recommend it, but as a history buff, something like this interests me a lot:

https://www.viator.com/tours/Philadelph ... 06-35943P2
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#27 Post by scamhi » October 20th, 2019, 9:08 am

We mentioned to you Res Ipsa as a favorite BYO place. So many delicious small plates.
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#28 Post by Todd F r e n c h » October 22nd, 2019, 7:08 pm

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We mentioned to you Res Ipsa as a favorite BYO place. So many delicious small plates.
https://www.resipsaphilly.com/
Ok - reservation made for tomorrow evening at Res Ipsa - will have to look for a nearby wine shop now!
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#29 Post by Carlton McCrindle » October 22nd, 2019, 7:27 pm

Enjoyed the Museum of the American Revolution.

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#30 Post by scamhi » October 23rd, 2019, 4:57 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
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We mentioned to you Res Ipsa as a favorite BYO place. So many delicious small plates.
https://www.resipsaphilly.com/
Ok - reservation made for tomorrow evening at Res Ipsa - will have to look for a nearby wine shop now!
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#31 Post by Richard T r i m p i » October 23rd, 2019, 6:15 am

There's a newer (i.e. 6 years old) "PLCB Premium Store" at 2040 Market, 1/3 mile for Res Ipsa. You should be able to find something there if you want something within easy walking distance of Res Ipsa.

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#32 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » October 23rd, 2019, 2:06 pm

Sorry, Todd - if we were in town, I'd say come by the house and we can find a nice bottle for your dinner. The selection is better than at the PLCB.
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#33 Post by Howard Cooper » October 24th, 2019, 2:55 pm

I have not been there, but have heard very good things about Zahav. http://www.zahavrestaurant.com/
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I have not been there, but have heard very good things about Zahav. http://www.zahavrestaurant.com/
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#35 Post by David Baum » October 29th, 2019, 10:14 pm

Hopefully you made it to Reading terminal market for lunch. So many great choices you can't go wrong. I always finish with a fresh filled cannoli at Termini brothers bakery. One of my favorite things in the world

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#36 Post by scamhi » October 30th, 2019, 12:14 pm

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Sorry, Todd - if we were in town, I'd say come by the house and we can find a nice bottle for your dinner. The selection is better than at the PLCB.
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#37 Post by Ed Steinway » June 14th, 2020, 9:48 am

Bumping this as we are thinking of going to Philadelphia later this summer. My understanding is that one cannot bring wine into the Pennsylvania on an airplane from another State, is the correct? Thank you and thanks for a lot of great information regarding the city!

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#38 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » June 14th, 2020, 9:53 am

Ed Steinway wrote:
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Bumping this as we are thinking of going to Philadelphia later this summer. My understanding is that one cannot bring wine into the Pennsylvania on an airplane from another State, is the correct? Thank you and thanks for a lot of great information regarding the city!

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That’s maybe correct by the letter of the law but in practice you’ll be fine unless you’re bringing an inordinate amount.

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#39 Post by Ed Steinway » June 14th, 2020, 9:59 am

Thanks, and my apologies for the lack of grammar with the question!

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#40 Post by Steve Gautier » June 14th, 2020, 10:47 am

Agree with Michael. Maybe by late summer we will make it to the green phase of reopening.
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#41 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » June 29th, 2020, 7:05 pm

Things can change. Pittsburgh went green 6/5 with a return to socially responsible dining. 6/30 with a recent upsurge in cases and all booze is shut down.

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#42 Post by Dave McIsaac » June 30th, 2020, 10:54 am

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
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Things can change. Pittsburgh went green 6/5 with a return to socially responsible dining. 6/30 with a recent upsurge in cases and all booze is shut down.
Things in PA are now being handled on a county-by-county basis. Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) is as Tom posted, but you can still get drinks in Butler County, just north of Allegheny.
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#43 Post by scamhi » June 30th, 2020, 10:56 am

we bring wine all of the time when visiting our daughter and son-in-law in Philadelphia.
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#44 Post by Steve Gautier » June 30th, 2020, 11:58 am

County by county basis continues. Philadelphia just announced that they will delay the opening of indoor dining and gyms until August 1st instead of this Friday. They also put in a 14 day quarantine if coming from 15 states. That will unfortunately just cause some city residents to come eat in the suburban counties. One more reason for me not to go near a restaurant.
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Re: Philadelphia - quick trip this month (next week!)

#45 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » June 30th, 2020, 7:25 pm

scamhi wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 10:56 am
we bring wine all of the time when visiting our daughter and son-in-law in Philadelphia.
If licensed premises can’t serve booze, I doubt you’ll be able to byob. For instance, some restaurants could serve take away cocktails but not sangria. The PLCB ruled that allowing sangria would infringe on the rights of restaurants that were licensed to sell wine for takeaway.

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Re: Philadelphia - quick trip this month (next week!)

#46 Post by scamhi » July 1st, 2020, 4:35 pm

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 7:25 pm
scamhi wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 10:56 am
we bring wine all of the time when visiting our daughter and son-in-law in Philadelphia.
If licensed premises can’t serve booze, I doubt you’ll be able to byob. For instance, some restaurants could serve take away cocktails but not sangria. The PLCB ruled that allowing sangria would infringe on the rights of restaurants that were licensed to sell wine for takeaway.
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Re: Philadelphia - quick trip this month (next week!)

#47 Post by Richard T r i m p i » July 2nd, 2020, 5:15 pm

Dave McIsaac wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 10:54 am
Things in PA are now being handled on a county-by-county basis.
Sometimes town by town. The City of Easton is cracking down on the massive outdoor parties created by several restaurants and bars that were granted permission to close off a couple of streets and serve guests outside. Each restaurant area is now sectioned off by fencing with strict seating protocols. No drinking on the street/sidewalks or open containers outside of the designated restaurant or bar area.

New PA State mask requirements were issued yesterday with mandatory mask wearing in public, even when outside, if you can't distance 6+ feet. Apparently there's an unspecified waiver for eating and drinking, which is supposed to dovetail with proper distancing due to a 50% occupancy limit.

It all seems to be a "clusterf*ck" with lots of people trying to do the right thing and quite a few that aren't. Restaurants and bars are understandably desperate to generate revenue. Plenty of clients are suffering from Coronavirus burnout and willing to take risks.

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