Ravenswood library offer

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#251 Post by **Michael Martin** » October 16th, 2019, 10:37 am

Been buying from O & F since day one and I got skunked on this one, but there will always be another good wine to buy. Always.

#252 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » October 16th, 2019, 10:56 am

AlexS wrote: ↑
October 16th, 2019, 10:29 am

Given the provenance, I could see someone thinking these bottles might command a decent premium.

Isn't the provenance "sitting in a Constellation warehouse"?

Granted, I trust Joel, and if he says the wines are good then I believe they are good, but this wasn't from some cave in Burgundy.

#253 Post by **AlexS** » October 16th, 2019, 11:03 am

Didn't he say all of the 80s vintages and on were in temp controlled storage?

#254 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » October 16th, 2019, 11:11 am

Yes. I am just not one to place great faith in mega-wine-distributor assertions, even when through a trusted person.

#255 Post by **Mike Maguire** » October 16th, 2019, 12:24 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote: ↑
October 16th, 2019, 2:22 am

Mike Maguire wrote: ↑
October 15th, 2019, 9:43 pm
I was traveling most of the day and didn’t check my email til 3pm, nothing to buy.Have bought every offering of O&F since the beginning.One of the newbies can have my spot I guess.
Joel made it clear in the announcement that it was first come, first served for limited wines.

I guess I didn’t look at the details close enough David, that’s on me.

#256 Post by **Sh@n A** » October 16th, 2019, 4:25 pm

How do the O&F offerings differ from Ravenswood and Bedrock, stylistically? I've seen comments elsewhere that the O&F may not be able to go the distance we may see with this offering?

#257 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » October 16th, 2019, 4:30 pm

Sh@n A wrote: ↑
October 16th, 2019, 4:25 pm
How do the O&F offerings differ from Ravenswood and Bedrock, stylistically? I've seen comments elsewhere that the O&F may not be able to go the distance we may see with this offering?

I would place O&F at a spot directly between Ravenswood and Bedrock.

As for aging, anyone who tries to tell you that they know O&F wines won’t go the distance is talking out of their ass. At best, Joel Peterson knows more about winemaking with zin and related grapes than almost anyone on the planet. At worst, he’s an incredibly gifted winemaker with a serious track record.

How long they can age probably depends on how you like your wine.

#258 Post by **Michael Martin** » October 16th, 2019, 5:19 pm

Sh@n A wrote: ↑
October 16th, 2019, 4:25 pm
How do the O&F offerings differ from Ravenswood and Bedrock, stylistically? I've seen comments elsewhere that the O&F may not be able to go the distance we may see with this offering?

I can’t comment on Ravenswood, but I would say generally O&F are more restrained than Bedrock. They have complexity, but may not have some of the fruit driven profiles of Morgan’s wine. Their are exceptions though. I thought the Sangiacomo Merlot was excellent young, but had layers that I am sure would further emerge with time. The Petite Sirah is excellent as well. I like Bedrock’s Zins better for the vibrancy.

It’s hard to compare and contrast though. It’s like asking someone to describe color.

#259 Post by **Siun o'Connell** » October 16th, 2019, 5:45 pm

Opened a 2015 O&F Mataro last night ... delicious and interesting, evolved nicely during the evening ... glad I have a few bottles because it was really wonderful wine.

#260 Post by **Rich Brown** » October 16th, 2019, 5:54 pm

So first off, Erika has been incredible in regards to customer service and helped me out early on as for some reason I was not receiving the emails even though I have ordered since the first O&F release. After getting that straightened out, I placed my order for some 87 Sonoma zin, 94 Petite Sirah, and 94 icon roughly 9 minutes after the offer came out and figured I was good to go since they showed available....but when I later looked closer at the response that I received....it mentioned my 'wish list' was ordered .

Obviously not what I was hoping to see, and Erika confirmed that they must have been sold out so it defaulted to wish-list. Thought I ordered pretty early but I guess not

anyone else have a similar situation?

All that being said.....anyone in AZ snag a few bottles and interested in popping one with a big zin/Ravenswood fan??

#261 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » October 16th, 2019, 6:20 pm

Rich,

All the Old Hill bottles that were in my cart one minute, ended up on wish list. It’s just how fast it was moving.

Still snagged some cool stuff. Happy to share if anyone makes it to Connecticut.

#262 Post by **John Preston** » October 16th, 2019, 7:10 pm

I had the same happen...ordered but most went to "wish list." Oh well, even though I ordered within 5 minutes of the offer...I should have been quicker!

Since I live in Chicagoland, AlexS was kind enough to share but at the end of the day, I am fine with my 4 bottles. Having said that, I will be checking for any Chicagoland offlines that should materialize ; )

Cheers,
JP

#263 Post by **Todd F r e n c h** » October 16th, 2019, 8:17 pm

I think someone should put together an Offline for enjoying these!

David Baum · #264 Post by **David Baum** » October 16th, 2019, 9:01 pm

I had a list of exactly what I wanted, it wasn't long, I logged in at the open, entered the wines I wanted and ordered within a couple minutes and got half. To get Old Hill or MR you probably needed to order those minute one.

Rich
I got a couple of the 94 PS. If you can make it to SD in next year or two PM me. If they are in the same universe as the 94 Dunn PS they'll be a real treat.

And Erika was awesome. When I saw wines got waitlisted and I accidentally ordered one incorrectly she responded to my emails within minutes. She was quick, clear and accurate.

#265 Post by **Rich Brown** » October 16th, 2019, 9:25 pm

Thanks guys - bummed you missed out on some wines as well, but appreciate the confirmation that it was a common theme.

David and David, thank you for the offers fellas! I might take you up on that if I make it out to Connecticut or San Diego

#266 Post by **Siun o'Connell** » October 17th, 2019, 8:29 am

There was a followup message from Joel Peterson saying there would be another sale and that there would be lower allocations for that to spread the joy a bit further. Looking forward to that ... I was tied up in work meetings and missed out myself.

bob poirier · #267 Post by **bob poirier** » November 8th, 2019, 7:33 am

We should consider a virtual tasting when the wines come in, I haven't heard anything regarding shipping yet.

#268 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » November 8th, 2019, 7:35 am

I was just wondering about shipping this morning.

#269 Post by **Jeff_M.** » November 8th, 2019, 7:56 am

My guess is that these ship out next week. I think a LOT of wine is coming next week. Bedrock, Carlisle, Ravenswood, etc

#270 Post by **David Glasser** » November 8th, 2019, 8:23 am

I emailed yesterday to ask about shipping. Got a reply that they are being sent next week.

One or two of these will be opened on Thanksgiving.

#271 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » November 8th, 2019, 8:36 am

Thanks David

#272 Post by **Nate Simon** » November 8th, 2019, 9:40 am

I inquired, and Erika replied:
"We estimated on the release info that we expect shipments to go out around the 2 to 3rd week of November, weather permitting. I am personally pulling all the individual wines to stage them for our fulfillment department and, unfortunately we lost a couple of days due to power outage and mandatory evacuations (Kincade Fire). But I am still shooting for that time frame. I know many would like their wines in time for Thanksgiving."
Great service and responsiveness from her, as others have mentioned.

#273 Post by **Jeff_M.** » November 8th, 2019, 11:18 am

Nate Simon wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 9:40 am
I inquired, and Erika replied:
"We estimated on the release info that we expect shipments to go out around the 2 to 3rd week of November, weather permitting. I am personally pulling all the individual wines to stage them for our fulfillment department and, unfortunately we lost a couple of days due to power outage and mandatory evacuations (Kincade Fire). But I am still shooting for that time frame. I know many would like their wines in time for Thanksgiving."
Great service and responsiveness from her, as others have mentioned.

Excellent update. Thanks! Can't wait to see all the tasting notes on everything.

#274 Post by **Brian Tuite** » November 8th, 2019, 12:13 pm

I was at an HVS tasting last night in Sonoma. Joel was pouring his O&F wines but had a magnum of ‘99 Old Hill on the back counter. I asked him who I had to kiss to get a pour of it. He told me it was corked. Crap. He lamented that he should have brought a back-up.

Nose was destroyed but the palate was fresh and lively. Be happy if you were able to snag one.

#275 Post by **PaulMills** » November 8th, 2019, 4:44 pm

I have no space in the cellar. No hurry for me.

#276 Post by **AlexS** » November 8th, 2019, 5:27 pm

bob poirier wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 7:33 am
We should consider a virtual tasting when the wines come in, I haven't heard anything regarding shipping yet.

Absolutely and we should consider setting up a separate thread for this, imo.

#277 Post by **Rich Brown** » November 8th, 2019, 5:41 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:27 pm

bob poirier wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 7:33 am
We should consider a virtual tasting when the wines come in, I haven't heard anything regarding shipping yet.
Absolutely and we should consider setting up a separate thread for this, imo.

....and I should consider flying back into Milwaukee to hang out with you again when this tasting kicks off

#278 Post by **AlexS** » November 8th, 2019, 5:44 pm

Rich Brown wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:41 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:27 pm

bob poirier wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 7:33 am
We should consider a virtual tasting when the wines come in, I haven't heard anything regarding shipping yet.
Absolutely and we should consider setting up a separate thread for this, imo.
....and I should consider flying back into Milwaukee to hang out with you again when this tasting kicks off

Well, Bob did say "virtual"

But hell to the f*cking a yeah man!! Could definitely rouse up a few local winos for a Ravenswood library tasting...

#279 Post by **Rich Brown** » November 8th, 2019, 5:47 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:44 pm

Rich Brown wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:41 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:27 pm

Absolutely and we should consider setting up a separate thread for this, imo.
....and I should consider flying back into Milwaukee to hang out with you again when this tasting kicks off
Well, Bob did say "virtual"

But hell to the f*cking a yeah man!! Could definitely rouse up a few local winos for a Ravenswood library tasting...

I honestly would be interested in making that happen. Let's figure that out!!

I'm sure Andrew Johnstone woukd make the drive to MKE for it as well!

#280 Post by **AlexS** » November 8th, 2019, 5:52 pm

Rich Brown wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:47 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:44 pm

Rich Brown wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:41 pm

....and I should consider flying back into Milwaukee to hang out with you again when this tasting kicks off
Well, Bob did say "virtual"

But hell to the f*cking a yeah man!! Could definitely rouse up a few local winos for a Ravenswood library tasting...
I honestly would be interested in making that happen. Let's figure that out!!

I'm sure Andrew Johnstone woukd make the drive to MKE for it as well!

Depending how this is coordinated, we might even be able to compel Bueker into attending as well...

#281 Post by **Rich Brown** » November 8th, 2019, 5:56 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:52 pm

Rich Brown wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:47 pm

AlexS wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2019, 5:44 pm

Well, Bob did say "virtual"

But hell to the f*cking a yeah man!! Could definitely rouse up a few local winos for a Ravenswood library tasting...
I honestly would be interested in making that happen. Let's figure that out!!

I'm sure Andrew Johnstone woukd make the drive to MKE for it as well!
Depending how this is coordinated, we might even be able to compel Bueker into attending as well...

Now it's a party for sure!! Let's do this!!

#282 Post by **Sh@n A** » November 13th, 2019, 6:22 am

Sh@n A wrote: ↑
October 15th, 2019, 6:33 pm

Jason T wrote: ↑
October 15th, 2019, 1:41 pm
Same here. 2nd or 3rd week of Jan would work. I’m relatively open on date within that time frame.
... I’m in for Tuesday with contemporary French/American. Though if there was conviction for Wednesday apps/steaks I’d go along.
Lets say:
Tuesday, January 21st
River Park (can switch to steakhouse later)
7:00pm
7 seats

I can start a new thread in NYC offlines when I get to a computer later.

Started a new thread for NY offline here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=164923
As mentioned, folks with multiples are happy to sell to others that were blanked out...

#283 Post by **Jeff_M.** » November 13th, 2019, 7:07 am

Can't wait to get these in the cellar. Clearing some space for them at my home cellar so they don't have to stay at my off site.

#284 Post by **Bdklein** » November 14th, 2019, 7:42 am

Anybody have any information regarding the shipping of their orders ?

#285 Post by **Ron Slye** » November 14th, 2019, 8:56 am

I just received an email yesterday titled Kismet Wine Order Shipment Confirmation indicating that the shipment went out yesterday (Nov 13), with tracking numbers.

#286 Post by **Hank Victor** » November 15th, 2019, 2:09 pm

Got a weather hold email on the 12th from Kismet.

#287 Post by **adam landa** » November 15th, 2019, 3:09 pm

Ron/Hank...Where are you located? I'm in Nashville and have yet to receive an email re shipping. Hoping to receive ahead of Thanksgiving.

#288 Post by **Nate Simon** » November 15th, 2019, 3:35 pm

Based on my communications with them, it sounds like this is a very small operation, with one person being essentially responsible for all of the picking, packaging, and shipment. I would not be the least bit surprised if these went out in a number of “waves.“

#289 Post by **Ron Slye** » November 15th, 2019, 7:50 pm

I am in Seattle. Something just arrived at my offsite and I assume it is these wines.

#290 Post by **Bdklein** » November 15th, 2019, 8:21 pm

So mine is en route . I live in NY

#291 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » November 16th, 2019, 4:21 am

Mine too for Connecticut

#292 Post by **AlexS** » November 16th, 2019, 9:38 am

I received a weather hold email yesterday afternoon.

#293 Post by **Andrew Demaree** » November 16th, 2019, 10:25 am

Bdklein wrote: ↑
November 15th, 2019, 8:21 pm
So mine is en route . I live in NY

I live in NY and haven’t heard anything. Did you get an email saying it’s on its way?

#294 Post by **D@vid Bu3ker** » November 16th, 2019, 10:35 am

Andrew Demaree wrote: ↑
November 16th, 2019, 10:25 am

Bdklein wrote: ↑
November 15th, 2019, 8:21 pm
So mine is en route . I live in NY
I live in NY and haven’t heard anything. Did you get an email saying it’s on its way?

I did for Connecticut.

What’s baffling is that they left my three orders, which added up to 12 bottles, as three separate packages. Three separate tracking numbers. Ah well.

#295 Post by **David Glasser** » November 17th, 2019, 8:04 am

Got a response to an email query that they would be coming last week but no shipping notice yet here in MD. This does sound like a small operation. I'm not worried, just hoping they get here by Thanksgiving.

#296 Post by **ChrisMcElligott** » November 17th, 2019, 2:48 pm

Wine spies has 2013 Icon for 30 bucks. Not quite in line with these Library offerings but solid price. Ends midnight tonight, I snagged some.

#297 Post by **Paul Miller** » November 19th, 2019, 1:09 pm

Got my shipping notice today. On their way to Chicago.

#298 Post by **Hank Victor** » November 19th, 2019, 1:35 pm

adam landa wrote: ↑
November 15th, 2019, 3:09 pm
Ron/Hank...Where are you located? I'm in Nashville and have yet to receive an email re shipping. Hoping to receive ahead of Thanksgiving.

South FL

#299 Post by **Anton D** » November 19th, 2019, 2:48 pm

Mine arrived this week, looking forward to some turkey pairing!

#300 Post by **Demian Saenz** » November 19th, 2019, 6:10 pm

Just received notice mine is shipping out. I’m in MA.