Ravenswood library offer

[Brady Daniels]

My love for zin dates back to 90’s Ravenswood zins. This is quite exciting. I hope Joel limits guaranteed purchase amounts to allow more people to participate. Wishlisting seems prudent.

[D@vid Bu3ker]

I doubt it will be allocations at all.

[J Carroll]

It would be nice to get a heads up post here the day before this goes live, aka Morgan style, so we can all put together some sort of game plan. It just won’t be fun frantically adding items to the cart just hoping it won’t sell out before paying. I might not be able to sleep till the 15th.

Hi Carroll, Joel here, We will be sending out a list of the wines a couple of days before the release that should help you develop a game plan.

Thanks for the quick reply Joel. We’re all looking forward to this one.

[Joel Peterson]

I doubt it will be allocations at all.

There will be a bottle purchase limit on each wine David. That limit will be between 2 and 6 bottles depending on the availability of a particular wine.

[Lonnie F.]

Thanks everyone

[Robert.A.Jr.]

Joel, thanks for doing this. Many of us grew up on your wines and are now immersed in your son’s wines. I guess I had not been reading the right threads, as I did not know this - i.e., “Once and Future” - was your new winery. Kudos.

[D@vid Bu3ker]

I doubt it will be allocations at all.

There will be a bottle purchase limit on each wine David. That limit will be between 2 and 6 bottles depending on the availability of a particular wine.

Excellent. I will take it all!

[Mark Fister]

Joel, thanks for doing this. Many of us grew up on your wines and are now immersed in your son’s wines. I guess I had not been reading the right threads, as I did not know this was your winery. Kudos.

Ditto. I remember visiting in the late 80's and always had Ravenswood as one of the places to stop at. The Pickberry was one of my favorites along with the zins. Very happy to see Joel and Morgan producing great wine and preserving history!

[Joel Peterson]

Joel, thanks for doing this. Many of us grew up on your wines and are now immersed in your son’s wines. I guess I had not been reading the right threads, as I did not know this - i.e., “Once and Future” - was your new winery. Kudos.

I love sharing Robert. I couldn't possibly bring them all myself. Even with the help of my son and his friends. I hope you will try some of my new wines.

[Joel Peterson]

Joel, thanks for doing this. Many of us grew up on your wines and are now immersed in your son’s wines. I guess I had not been reading the right threads, as I did not know this - i.e., “Once and Future” - was your new winery. Kudos.

I love sharing Robert. I couldn't possibly drink them all myself. Even with the help of my son and his friends. I hope you will try some of my new wines.

[D@vid Bu3ker]

I hope there are a few 1997s in there. I still fondly recall Joel grabbing barrel samples for me to taste when I visited in 1998.

[David Glasser]

Wow, I cut my teeth on those Ravenswood Zins but drank them all within 5-10 years of the vintage. What a treat to have a chance to be able to go back and revisit them in maturity! Thanks to Joel once again, and to Wine Berserkers for making me aware of the opportunity.

[BenW]

List is out:
Ravenswood 1994 Icon
Ravenswood 1991 Pickberry Vineyard
Ravenswood 1994 Pickberry Vineyard
Ravenswood 1995 Rancho Salina Vineyard
Ravenswood 1996 Sonoma County Cabernet Franc
Ravenswood 1988 Gregory Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon
Ravenswood 1991 Gregory Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon
Ravenswood 1992 Gregory Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon
Ravenswood 1995 Gregory Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon
Ravenswood 1989 Sonoma County Cabernet Sauvignon
Ravenswood 1995 Donnell Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1992 Estate Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1997 Estate Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1998 Estate Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1998 Gregory Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1991 Sangiacomo Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1990 Sonoma County Merlot
Ravenswood 1993 Sonoma County Merlot
Ravenswood 1989 Summers Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1994 Sonoma County Petite Sirah
Ravenswood 1992 Belloni Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1994 Belloni Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1997 Big River Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1999 Big River Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1987 Cooke Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1991 Cooke Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1994 Cooke Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1996 Cooke Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1993 Los Chamizal Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1994 Los Chamizal Vineyard Merlot
Ravenswood 1993 Monte Rossa Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1994 Monte Rosso Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1994 Old Hill Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1996 Old Hill Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1987 Sonoma County Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1992 Sonoma County Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1998 Teldeschi Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1993 Dickerson Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1994 Sangiacomo Merlot
Ravenswood 1988 Dickerson Vineyard Zinfandel
Ravenswood 1993 Cooke Vineyard Zinfandel

[Glenn L e v i n e]

It moved a little when I saw this list.

[Nate Simon]

A case of each please.

[AlexS]

Well, there goes the 2020 budget.

[Jeff_M.]

Didn't get the email but hopefully I get the opportunity to buy some of these.

[Jay $$ Winton]

So what would your mixed case be?

[YLee]

I wonder the price on these.

[larry schaffer]

Perhaps Joel can post a link so that those that may want to take advantage of these can?

[D@vid Bu3ker]

Not at all sure of this, but I think it's really an offer for those on the Once & Future list.

[Brady Daniels]

That’s quite a list. I suspect many of us will be friendly competitors on the 15th.

[MBerto]

Got to try the 94 RW Monte Rosso Zin at a Bedrock tasting a few years back. Extremely interesting wine. By far the oldest zin I've ever had. Still very clearly a zin, decent amount of fruit left, but with a lot of aged cab like features starting to show, leather, tobacco, spice. Count me in.

[Nate Simon]

Love the Gregory Cabernet. Joel was kind enough to sell me some a couple of years back. Holding up pretty well.

[Rich Brown]

Got to try the 94 RW Monte Rosso Zin at a Bedrock tasting a few years back. Extremely interesting wine. By far the oldest zin I've ever had. Still very clearly a zin, decent amount of fruit left, but with a lot of aged cab like features starting to show, leather, tobacco, spice. Count me in.

94 MR Zin is an incredible wine and drinking so well/youthful right now. Had it twice last year - note below as part of a blind tasting.

Brief notes - part of larger blind tasting. The ringer in a blind flight with 2012 Bedrock and Carlisle Monte Rosso. This wine was drinking really well with juicy raspberry, and slight earth notes adding interest on the finish. Medium minus bodied, mouth-watering acidity, and a nice hint of secondary characteristics....but not the point where it seemed out of place next to the younger MR zins. Kind of a mix between a lighter zin and an older cab. Great wine that belies it age. One member called it double blind that the wines tasted like they were from the same vineyard or maybe same winemaker. Pretty damn impressive. Really fun to taste all these MR wines side-by-side.

[AlexS]

Well, there goes the 2021 budget too.

[Chr!s G|@rn3r]

I have no experience purchasing wines 20+ years old, but I’m interested in participating. Does anyone have an educated guess on what the prices will be?

[Brady Daniels]

I have no experience purchasing wines 20+ years old, but I’m interested in participating. Does anyone have an educated guess on what the prices will be?

Nope. Waiting with baited breath.

[Robert M yers]

The story made it sound like he rescued them off the scrap pile, so I’m hoping if that’s the case prices will be very fair?

[Ian Alper]

Ok, I am guessing $50 a bottle - just a guess. How many think over, how many under? (just for fun)

[MBerto]

Got to try the 94 RW Monte Rosso Zin at a Bedrock tasting a few years back. Extremely interesting wine. By far the oldest zin I've ever had. Still very clearly a zin, decent amount of fruit left, but with a lot of aged cab like features starting to show, leather, tobacco, spice. Count me in.

94 MR Zin is an incredible wine and drinking so well/youthful right now. Had it twice last year - note below as part of a blind tasting.

Brief notes - part of larger blind tasting. The ringer in a blind flight with 2012 Bedrock and Carlisle Monte Rosso. This wine was drinking really well with juicy raspberry, and slight earth notes adding interest on the finish. Medium minus bodied, mouth-watering acidity, and a nice hint of secondary characteristics....but not the point where it seemed out of place next to the younger MR zins. Kind of a mix between a lighter zin and an older cab. Great wine that belies it age. One member called it double blind that the wines tasted like they were from the same vineyard or maybe same winemaker. Pretty damn impressive. Really fun to taste all these MR wines side-by-side.

spot on with my notes.

[YLee]

Ok, I am guessing $50 a bottle - just a guess. How many think over, how many under? (just for fun)

I guess it really depends on which bottle. Also as mentioned above Joel made it seem like the bottles were saved from being thrown away so I'm going to say $20 a bottle

[John Preston]

Ok, I am guessing $50 a bottle - just a guess. How many think over, how many under? (just for fun)

I guess it really depends on which bottle. Also as mentioned above Joel made it seem like the bottles were saved from being thrown away so I'm going to say $20 a bottle

Yes, it will depend on which bottle. Some will be under $50, and some will be over $50. That could be a reasonable "average" amount...or perhaps a bit less...

Cheers,
JP

[BenW]

Ok, I am guessing $50 a bottle - just a guess. How many think over, how many under? (just for fun)

I guess it really depends on which bottle. Also as mentioned above Joel made it seem like the bottles were saved from being thrown away so I'm going to say $20 a bottle

If it’s $20 I’ll be backing up the truck... $50 I’ll pick and choose my spots... much more than that and I’ll still be getting some. It’s a rare opportunity.

[YLee]

Let's hope to backing up the truck. Selling all of the inventory is best for Joel and for us. Win-Win.

[larry schaffer]

Guess away, folks . . .

And my impression with older zins in general is that they lose their 'zin exuberance' and remind me more of aged clarets. Anyone else experience this?

Cheers.

[YLee]

Guess away, folks . . .

And my impression with older zins in general is that they lose their 'zin exuberance' and remind me more of aged clarets. Anyone else experience this?

Cheers.

Yes, almost like part zin part claret then becomes more of aged claret.

My plan is to buy more of the mid '90s and on.

[Robert.A.Jr.]

With everyone wanting to load up, how much supply is there? Are we talking like many multiple cases of all cuvees or a smattering if each?

[S teve R edenbaugh]

Totally agree, Larry. Personally, I like both both styles, but I find myself preferring the thinner, claret aged wines to the younger, more exuberant, fruit-driven zins.

[Brady Daniels]

And my impression with older zins in general is that they lose their 'zin exuberance' and remind me more of aged clarets. Anyone else experience this?

The few really old zins I had reminded more of aged Nebbiolo than Cabernet/merlot. But I guess all red wines converge with time.

[PaulMills]

With everyone wanting to load up, how much supply is there? Are we talking like many multiple cases of all cuvees or a smattering if each?

I think it was 1800 cases total, hopefully an fairly even distribution between the wines.

My concern is the people who want to load up. Will there be a limit to how much someone buy to spread the love.

[Michael Martin]

Guess away, folks . . .

And my impression with older zins in general is that they lose their 'zin exuberance' and remind me more of aged clarets. Anyone else experience this?

Cheers.

Your post made me look at some of my tasting notes from old Zins. I noted licorice, brown sugar, pomegranate.

You’re right, if tasted blind, Zin would not be my first guess.

[Robert M yers]

With everyone wanting to load up, how much supply is there? Are we talking like many multiple cases of all cuvees or a smattering if each?

I think it was 1800 cases total, hopefully an fairly even distribution between the wines.

My concern is the people who want to load up. Will there be a limit to how much someone buy to spread the love.

Joel said up thread there will be bottle limits.

[AlexS]

OP should revise the thread title to say "from Once & Future" or something similar, would be less confusing for those not on the list.

[D@vid Bu3ker]

With everyone wanting to load up, how much supply is there? Are we talking like many multiple cases of all cuvees or a smattering if each?

I think it was 1800 cases total, hopefully an fairly even distribution between the wines.

My concern is the people who want to load up. Will there be a limit to how much someone buy to spread the love.

Joel said up thread there will be bottle limits.

Actually he said 2-6, depending on the wine.

[David Baum]

My guess is you all are being optimistic on pricing but hope I'm wrong

[Robert M yers]

I think it was 1800 cases total, hopefully an fairly even distribution between the wines.

My concern is the people who want to load up. Will there be a limit to how much someone buy to spread the love.

Joel said up thread there will be bottle limits.

Actually he said 2-6, depending on the wine.

Not sure what you’re correcting here? Yes, a 2 to 6 bottle limit as he said up thread.

[D@vid Bu3ker]

Just specifying. Sorry.

[Jason T]

Ok, I am guessing $50 a bottle - just a guess. How many think over, how many under? (just for fun)

I guess it really depends on which bottle. Also as mentioned above Joel made it seem like the bottles were saved from being thrown away so I'm going to say $20 a bottle

I’ve got the over. Well over.

[YLee]

Ok, I am guessing $50 a bottle - just a guess. How many think over, how many under? (just for fun)

I guess it really depends on which bottle. Also as mentioned above Joel made it seem like the bottles were saved from being thrown away so I'm going to say $20 a bottle

I’ve got the over. Well over.

Give me 1000:1 odds I will take it. Ha!