Okay, what’s the next HOT wine?

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#1 Post by **Sc0tt F!tzger@ld** » July 13th, 2019, 7:54 pm

Sitting here in a Des Moines, IA hotel on a Saturday night with no good wine available. Bored to tears.

What’s the next hot wine? Downstream wines? Cru Beaujolais? Some great white burg with no premox? Modern Bordeaux that doesn’t require 20 years to age?

Cough it up Berserkers, inquiring minds want to know!

NED VALOIS · #2 Post by **NED VALOIS** » July 13th, 2019, 7:58 pm

In Miami, it's the one UPS delivers in their Big Brown OVEN !

#3 Post by **Neal.Mollen** » July 13th, 2019, 8:01 pm

Hot wine is dead at retail

#4 Post by **c fu** » July 13th, 2019, 8:07 pm

Really hard to operate a pump and dump operation for my illicit gain if I tell you before I can corner the market.

#5 Post by **Sc0tt F!tzger@ld** » July 13th, 2019, 8:10 pm

Fu makes a good point. But putting aside his Instagram hot takes and Neal’s doom and gloom retail scenario, what’s the next ‘orange wine’?

#6 Post by **Sc0tt F!tzger@ld** » July 13th, 2019, 8:11 pm

NED VALOIS wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 7:58 pm In Miami, it's the one UPS delivers in their Big Brown OVEN !

So avoid Ned’s “hot” wines on Commerce Corner.

#7 Post by **Sc0tt F!tzger@ld** » July 13th, 2019, 8:16 pm

WSJ says Cab Franc, Macconais, darker Rose,
and English sparkling are where it’s at.

#8 Post by **J a y H a c k** » July 13th, 2019, 8:26 pm

Mollydooker

Ian S · #9 Post by **Ian S** » July 13th, 2019, 8:29 pm

Would somebody tell me when it's my turn to start a thread asking what the next "gottahaveit" wine brand or variety will be? Being new, I'm probably way down the list, so advance notice would be great. TIA!

July 13th, 2019, 8:45 pm

Ian S wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 8:29 pm Would somebody tell me when it's my turn to start a thread asking what the next "gottahaveit" wine brand or variety will be? Being new, I'm probably way down the list, so advance notice would be great. TIA!

Two weeks from next Tuesday.

July 13th, 2019, 8:45 pm

J a y H a c k wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 8:26 pm Mollydooker

The shake making a comeback?

July 13th, 2019, 9:51 pm

Dez Monez on a Saturday night?

Low dosage Champagne?

#13 Post by **Bryan Price** » July 13th, 2019, 9:56 pm

Those fruity low cal spritzer drinks.

#14 Post by **Chris Seiber** » July 13th, 2019, 10:39 pm

Considering who posed the question, the answer can only really be this:

#15 Post by **David Glasser** » July 14th, 2019, 5:39 am

Natural wine... in a can.

#16 Post by **Robert.A.Jr.** » July 14th, 2019, 5:39 am

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 8:16 pm WSJ says Cab Franc

Unequivocally, no. Move on. Cab Franc is for people with no palate, debase motives and low morals.

#17 Post by **Kris Patten** » July 14th, 2019, 7:12 am

Think Cava has a shot as people grow out of Prosecco, want more complex bubbles, but don't want to pay up for it.

#18 Post by **Mattstolz** » July 14th, 2019, 7:19 am

I am just about to make a post about the merits of the wines of Etna. they are just beautiful.

J. Ashourian · #19 Post by **J. Ashourian** » July 14th, 2019, 7:33 am

2019 Bordeaux, and then 2020 Bordeaux followed closely by the once in a lifetime 2021 Bordeaux.

A. So · #20 Post by **A. So** » July 14th, 2019, 7:33 am

White Claw

#21 Post by **Mattstolz** » July 14th, 2019, 7:39 am

J. Ashourian wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 7:33 am 2019 Bordeaux, and then 2020 Bordeaux followed closely by the once in a lifetime 2021 Bordeaux.

if wine writers don't call the 2020 vintage "wines of focus and clarity" then as an optometrist I'm unsubscribing from their magazines.

#22 Post by **larry schaffer** » July 14th, 2019, 7:58 am

David Glasser wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 5:39 am Natural wine... in a can.

Or Pet Nat in a can . . . .

#23 Post by **Mark Thompson** » July 14th, 2019, 8:46 am

A. So wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 7:33 amWhite Claw

I’d honestly never heard of this stuff until right before the 4th—I was in a gas station in Fontana, WI and the owner was screaming the F-word every couple of seconds into his phone because he hadn’t gotten his White Claw delivery right as the lake was getting packed for the weekend. Apparently their best seller.

#24 Post by **Marc Hauser** » July 14th, 2019, 8:56 am

This: https://www.foodbeast.com/news/boozy-wi ... r-stomach/

#25 Post by **Philip G** » July 14th, 2019, 9:24 am

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 7:54 pm What’s the next hot wine?

By "hot wine" I'm assuming you mean high alcohol wine, right?

Steen T Olsen · #26 Post by **Steen T Olsen** » July 14th, 2019, 9:25 am

Hungarian reds made from Cab Franc and Merlot..

#27 Post by **Philip G** » July 14th, 2019, 9:25 am

Bryan Price wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 9:56 pm Those fruity low cal spritzer drinks.

Was at a bbq last night and EVERYBODY brought those spritzers, including us :-}

#28 Post by **Anton D** » July 14th, 2019, 9:28 am

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 8:16 pm WSJ says Cab Franc, Macconais, darker Rose,
and English sparkling are where it’s at.

#29 Post by **Kris Patten** » July 14th, 2019, 9:57 am

A. So wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 7:33 amWhite Claw

Already huge, whether it's this or some other malt based seltzer or carbonated drink with lower calories, someone will be next Mike's Hard Lemonade to emerge from the pack and be the leader.

#30 Post by **RichardFlack** » July 14th, 2019, 10:02 am

Kris Patten wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 7:12 am Think Cava has a shot as people grow out of Prosecco, want more complex bubbles, but don't want to pay up for it.

Personally, I’m more interested in cool wines. But playing along.

Cava is already “hot” I think. Prosecco is passé.

#31 Post by **Kris Patten** » July 14th, 2019, 10:04 am

RichardFlack wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 10:02 am
Kris Patten wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 7:12 am Think Cava has a shot as people grow out of Prosecco, want more complex bubbles, but don't want to pay up for it.
Personally, I’m more interested in cool wines. But playing along.

Cava is already “hot” I think. Prosecco is passé.

Hot in this group may be different than what I assume as hot as hot is what gets display space in major retail all the time....like LaMarca.

#32 Post by **RichardFlack** » July 14th, 2019, 10:28 am

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 8:16 pm WSJ says Cab Franc, Macconais, darker Rose,
and English sparkling are where it’s at.

Is this what you mean by “darker rose”.

Sorry it’s sideways, WB upload seems to override the original image. I tried rotating the original but no effect on result ).

(Had a total flashback seeing this in local KGBO for the princely sum of $9 - equates to about $2?US I think. It’s rather ironic they made a new label to say “Original”. Have not tasted yet, obviously. Will be interesting to see what 50 years of aging does (to the taster)))

GregT · #33 Post by **GregT** » July 14th, 2019, 10:57 am

Sitting here in a Des Moines, IA hotel on a Saturday night with no good wine available. Bored to tears.

What’s the next hot wine?

I gotta think it would be something like this for those cold Iowa winters. A few sticks of cinnamon, some cloves, some orange slices and you're good:

#34 Post by **Howard Cooper** » July 14th, 2019, 12:36 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 5:39 am
Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 8:16 pm WSJ says Cab Franc
Unequivocally, no. Move on. Cab Franc is for people with no palate, debase motives and low morals.

I have read that in this country almost all Loire Cab Franc is drunk by Jeffrey Epstein and his friends.

#35 Post by **Howard Cooper** » July 14th, 2019, 12:37 pm

wine in cans

Markus S · #36 Post by **Markus S** » July 14th, 2019, 12:42 pm

Finger Lakes lemberger

#37 Post by **Alan Eden** » July 14th, 2019, 3:10 pm

Darker rose, isnt that pinot ?

#38 Post by **Eric Ifune** » July 14th, 2019, 3:39 pm

Non-Douro Portuguese wines.

Ian S · #39 Post by **Ian S** » July 14th, 2019, 5:19 pm

A. So wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 7:33 amWhite Claw

Wasn't that Soupy Sales pet?

July 14th, 2019, 6:24 pm

Chris Seiber wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 10:39 pm Considering who posed the question, the answer can only really be this:

Just getting back to this thread. Well played sir!

July 14th, 2019, 6:27 pm

Wow, I go away for less than 24 hours, and this thread is totally in disarray. Probably because I didn't setup a poll with highly restrictive and meaningless options.

#42 Post by **Michael Martin** » July 14th, 2019, 6:30 pm

Howard Cooper wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 12:37 pm wine in cans

I usually leave my glass at the bar before entering the lavatory.

Peter Valiquette · July 14th, 2019, 6:30 pm

Apparently its Downstream...

#44 Post by **Howard Cooper** » July 14th, 2019, 6:44 pm

Michael Martin wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 6:30 pm
Howard Cooper wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 12:37 pm wine in cans
I usually leave my glass at the bar before entering the lavatory.

Richard Albert · #45 Post by **Richard Albert** » July 15th, 2019, 7:21 am

Close enough "White Fang".
White Claw is earthier, a proximity thing.

Bill Tex Landreth · July 15th, 2019, 7:33 am

The next ‘Black Cat’ to fawn over.

#47 Post by **MBerto** » July 15th, 2019, 7:56 am

Doesn't Syrah have to be a big thing before it can be de-throned from being the Next Big Thing?

Steve Crawford · #48 Post by **Steve Crawford** » July 15th, 2019, 10:49 am

Howard Cooper wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 12:36 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote: ↑July 14th, 2019, 5:39 am
Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: ↑July 13th, 2019, 8:16 pm WSJ says Cab Franc
Unequivocally, no. Move on. Cab Franc is for people with no palate, debase motives and low morals.
I have read that in this country almost all Loire Cab Franc is drunk by Jeffrey Epstein and his friends.

sounds about right.

Ian S · #49 Post by **Ian S** » July 15th, 2019, 10:54 am

MBerto wrote: ↑July 15th, 2019, 7:56 am Doesn't Syrah have to be a big thing before it can be de-throned from being the Next Big Thing?

Matt, I don't want you to think I've got a crush on you or anything, but I just wanted to say that your avatar is one of my favorites here.

Nathan Smyth · #50 Post by **Nathan Smyth** » July 15th, 2019, 12:14 pm

If you whisper the word, "Verdicchio," at Wine-Berserkers, how long will it be before the Hipsters & the Foodies & the Nouveaus & the Old Guard & the High Brows & the Hippies & all the rest of the bottom-dwelling parasitic scum will be casually repeating the word at their cocktail parties?

[Ver-di-cchio...]