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#1 Post by Nick G A J E W S K I » July 8th, 2019, 10:54 am

Could not find a topic(if there is one please let me know), for postings of auction finds that we are interested in.

Will start with a few I have added to my tracker this week.

1975 Joseph Phelps Cabernet Sauvignon, $115
https://www.winebid.com/BuyWine/Item/71 ... -Sauvignon

1978 Stag's Leap Wine Cellars SLV Lot 2 Cabernet Sauvignon, $230
https://www.winebid.com/BuyWine/Item/71 ... abernet-Sa~

1957 Château Lynch-Bages, $240
https://www.winebid.com/BuyWine/Item/71 ... ynch-Bages
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#2 Post by David_K » July 8th, 2019, 11:02 am

I think you will find there are few people interested in doing this, as it just highlights lots they may be interested in, potentially increasing competition. Most rational actors want their watched lots to slip under the radar.
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#3 Post by Glen Gold » July 8th, 2019, 11:02 am

Sincere question: what is the benefit of advertising stuff we might or might not be bidding on?
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#4 Post by Matthew King » July 8th, 2019, 11:17 am

Maybe he’s the seller .... [wink.gif]
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#5 Post by Nick G A J E W S K I » July 8th, 2019, 11:23 am

I track about 15 or so auctions a week, don't necessarily care about buying them but would be helpful to others that are looking at buying. If there is no interest, it will certainly sink as a topic

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#6 Post by Paul Jaouen » July 8th, 2019, 11:30 am

15 auctions a week! That's a crazy number and I can't believe there are even that many. Can you name them?
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#7 Post by c fu » July 8th, 2019, 11:32 am

Paul Jaouen wrote:
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15 auctions a week! That's a crazy number and I can't believe there are even that many. Can you name them?
he probably means wine lots and all from winebid
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#8 Post by Nick G A J E W S K I » July 8th, 2019, 11:34 am

Paul Jaouen wrote:
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15 auctions a week! That's a crazy number and I can't believe there are even that many. Can you name them?
Meant 15 wines, meant it as an individual auction of 1 wine.
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#9 Post by Degarmo.j » July 8th, 2019, 11:47 am

I stopped buying from winebid about a year ago, I have had sooo many bad bottles from that site. I know it happens with auction but winebid specifically became too much after a couple bad cases.
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#10 Post by Markus S » July 8th, 2019, 11:58 am

I used to think N Rhones were so hot, but only 1 person is bidding on the Juge at KL. Must be the summer....cest la vie.
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#11 Post by Mark Golodetz » July 8th, 2019, 12:55 pm

Why is a bottle of Lynch from the mediocre 1957 vintage at $240 of interest? The Phelps is risky, the 1975 Eisele is justly famous, not sure how this will be. The Stag’s Leap is at market. All at Winebid; would need photographsat minimum, as I am not sure I trust them.
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#12 Post by Gray G » July 8th, 2019, 1:44 pm

lots of wine at auction selling at low prices
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#13 Post by R. Frankel » July 8th, 2019, 2:08 pm

I’ve bought quite a bit from Winebid and have had good results. Very few bad bottles. However, I’m pretty careful - don’t bid on anything too iffy in terms of condition.

I have noticed that there are some categories that have really increased in price the last few years. There are still deals on Winebid, but they are rarer and more obscure.
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#14 Post by Alan Eden » July 8th, 2019, 2:22 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 12:55 pm
Why is a bottle of Lynch from the mediocre 1957 vintage at $240 of interest? The Phelps is risky, the 1975 Eisele is justly famous, not sure how this will be. The Stag’s Leap is at market. All at Winebid; would need photographsat minimum, as I am not sure I trust them.
You can get 82 or 89 for a few bucks more, 2000 for less. Why would anyone buy an old tired bottle of wine when wine from same Chateau in great current drinking window is available ?
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#15 Post by Steve Anderson » July 8th, 2019, 3:09 pm

Nick,

Thank you for posting. For many, I suppose it is like being asked "Where is your favorite fishing hole and what have you been catching lately?"

I still regularly browse multiple auctions, but my purchases have dropped dramatically for a variety of reasons (funds, maxed out storage, etc). That said, I can't pass up the occasional bargain and love the hunt!

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#16 Post by Markus S » July 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 12:55 pm
Why is a bottle of Lynch from the mediocre 1957 vintage at $240 of interest?
History, man, history.

And perhaps it's a birthyear??
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#17 Post by Craig G » July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm

Markus S wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm
Mark Golodetz wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 12:55 pm
Why is a bottle of Lynch from the mediocre 1957 vintage at $240 of interest?
History, man, history.

And perhaps it's a birthyear??
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
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#18 Post by RMann » July 8th, 2019, 5:41 pm

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I stopped buying from winebid about a year ago, I have had sooo many bad bottles from that site. I know it happens with auction but winebid specifically became too much after a couple bad cases.
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#19 Post by Mark Thompson » July 8th, 2019, 7:59 pm

Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Markus S wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm
Mark Golodetz wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 12:55 pm
Why is a bottle of Lynch from the mediocre 1957 vintage at $240 of interest?
History, man, history.

And perhaps it's a birthyear??
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
Or, perhaps the ‘57 Lynch Bages just happened to be the first bottle of old Bordeaux you had the privilege of trying 20 years ago...after you randomly stumbled across it at John’s Grocery in Iowa City. Maybe it was the bottle that planted the seed of a future obsession This might make you less sensitive to the fact that it is likely over the hill (though is was still pretty good 20 years ago) and/or may not have been stored perfectly because you intend to keep it unopened as a memento.

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#20 Post by Karl K » July 8th, 2019, 8:07 pm

Time for a road trip to this John’s Grocery
in Iowa City you mention!
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#21 Post by Mark Thompson » July 8th, 2019, 8:50 pm

Karl K wrote:
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Time for a road trip to this John’s Grocery
in Iowa City you mention!
To this day I have no idea how “Dirty John’s” scored a case of ‘57 Lynch Bages back in about 2000. They had a great beer selection and sold tons of kegs of Old Style Light, but it must have been some random late release. I think I paid $140, which was a fortune for me back then and probably way more than it was worth at the time.

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#22 Post by M. Meer » July 8th, 2019, 9:05 pm

Of all my consumed bottles, auction buying has yielded a 2.26% flawed bottle rate compared to 1.75% bottles flawed from those purchased at retail. While true, some of those bottles probably shouldn't have been put up for bid, I also shouldn't have bid on some of them, looking back. A handful, I may not have prepared properly prior to opening. But, it's a learning experience, and 90% of those flawed auction bottles were purchased and consumed 7+ years ago. Since then, it's been very good drinking at a nice discount compared to retail, and it's helped me to learn a lot about wine, since I have to do my homework even more.

Back to the OP, I've though about posting a thread like this multiple times but haven't been able to bring myself to do it. You are a better man than me.
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#23 Post by Gerhard P. » July 9th, 2019, 1:50 am

Mark Golodetz wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 12:55 pm
Why is a bottle of Lynch from the mediocre 1957 vintage at $240 of interest? The Phelps is risky, the 1975 Eisele is justly famous, not sure how this will be. The Stag’s Leap is at market. All at Winebid; would need photographsat minimum, as I am not sure I trust them.
1957 Lynch-Bages can be quite a good wine, the vintage is not bad, nor great either ... and I had one bottle that was excellent, another one only so-so ... (always depending ...)
but I wouldn´t pay 240,- for it - I paid (I think) 45,- all. incl. some (12?) years ago ...
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#24 Post by Gerry Morrisey » July 9th, 2019, 5:34 am

From a general auction view, my friends share each others paddle numbers so we dont bid against one another. But that is a pretty small group relative to the entire WB community. I dont believe sharing lot info on a public board would be in anyone's best interest other than the seller.

In regards to Wine Bid, they were the first auction house I regularly bought from but over the years things made it less attractive for me. Some reasons their doing others they have little control over.

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#25 Post by Markus S » July 9th, 2019, 6:13 am

Gerry Morrisey wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 5:34 am
... I dont believe sharing lot info on a public board would be in anyone's best interest...
Isn't transparency a good thing, in everything?? Without it - in government, business, our personal lives - there is exploitation.
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#26 Post by Mark Golodetz » July 9th, 2019, 6:18 am

Markus S wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 6:13 am
Gerry Morrisey wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 5:34 am
... I dont believe sharing lot info on a public board would be in anyone's best interest...
Isn't transparency a good thing, in everything?? Without it - in government, business, our personal lives - there is exploitation.
If you want to make this work, form a group of people you trust and share auction and/or retail finds.
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#27 Post by David Baum » July 9th, 2019, 10:00 am

There's a bunch of 40th Anniversary Caymus in 1 liter format on Spectrum. Highly recommend bidding on them

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#28 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am

Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Markus S wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm
Mark Golodetz wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 12:55 pm
Why is a bottle of Lynch from the mediocre 1957 vintage at $240 of interest?
History, man, history.

And perhaps it's a birthyear??
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
56 is even worse
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#29 Post by David Glasser » July 9th, 2019, 11:49 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am
Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Markus S wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm


History, man, history.

And perhaps it's a birthyear??
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
56 is even worse
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#30 Post by Mark Thompson » July 9th, 2019, 12:06 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am
Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Markus S wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm


History, man, history.

And perhaps it's a birthyear??
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
56 is even worse
I seem to remember something about the “coldest weather in Bordeaux in about a quarter millennium”.

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#31 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 9th, 2019, 12:09 pm

Mark Thompson wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:06 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am
Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
56 is even worse
I seem to remember something about the “coldest weather in Bordeaux in about a quarter millennium”.
Parker's bdx book summarized the year as (paraphrasing) small quantities of vile, undrinkable wine.
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#32 Post by Craig G » July 9th, 2019, 12:31 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:09 pm
Mark Thompson wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:06 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am


56 is even worse
I seem to remember something about the “coldest weather in Bordeaux in about a quarter millennium”.
Parker's bdx book summarized the year as (paraphrasing) small quantities of vile, undrinkable wine.
”The wines were terrible, and the pours were too small.”
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#33 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 9th, 2019, 12:38 pm

Craig G wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:31 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:09 pm
Mark Thompson wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:06 pm


I seem to remember something about the “coldest weather in Bordeaux in about a quarter millennium”.
Parker's bdx book summarized the year as (paraphrasing) small quantities of vile, undrinkable wine.
”The wines were terrible, and the pours were too small.”
Exactly. There's an old joke, surely in the Ron Memorial Thread, about the elderly couple at the early bird; the food is awful and the portions too small.
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#34 Post by Andrew M » July 9th, 2019, 12:46 pm

Gerry Morrisey wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 5:34 am
From a general auction view, my friends share each others paddle numbers so we dont bid against one another. But that is a pretty small group relative to the entire WB community. I dont believe sharing lot info on a public board would be in anyone's best interest other than the seller.

In regards to Wine Bid, they were the first auction house I regularly bought from but over the years things made it less attractive for me. Some reasons their doing others they have little control over.
Gerry, as someone who’s just beginning to buy through auction and mostly through WineBid, id be interested to know what your reasons were?
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#35 Post by Michael Martin » July 9th, 2019, 1:30 pm

I think I have had better luck with flawed bottles from Winebid than I have had with bottles purchased direct. I don't think I ever have had a flawed bottle after years of buying.

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#36 Post by Rich Brown » July 9th, 2019, 9:52 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 1:30 pm
I think I have had better luck with flawed bottles from Winebid than I have had with bottles purchased direct. I don't think I ever have had a flawed bottle after years of buying.
Same. My success rate on Winebid is incredibly high.....and I purchase from them regularly, and have done so for a handful of years.

As to the OP, while I'm absolutely a 'sharing is caring' kinda guy when it comes to nice finds at retail, I just dont see the point of doing the same here when it comes to auctions. With the former, you're normally talking multiple bottles/larger qualities. With the latter, usually unique lots or single/rare bottles that are often hard to find elsewhere. At the end of the day, we take the time/effort to bid at auction to score a good deal on those harder to find wines. Highlighting those lots to the thousands of wine-crazed peeps who frequent this board completely defeats the purpose and only benefits the seller. Maybe an 'Auction Wins' thread would be more appropriate??

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#37 Post by Jay Miller » July 10th, 2019, 9:56 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am
Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Markus S wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm


History, man, history.

And perhaps it's a birthyear??
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
56 is even worse
As a 1960 myself you are one of the few people I'm inclined to feel sorry for with regards to birth year wines. I have some vintage averaging lined up for next year (1966, 1962, 1958 and 1954 average out to 4 good bottles of 1960).

Regarding the original post I'm in the camp with most responders. I would only share things I'm interested in there are a lot of them. And even then I usually wait until the next week.
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#38 Post by Mark Thompson » July 10th, 2019, 10:15 am

Jay Miller wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 9:56 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am
Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
56 is even worse
As a 1960 myself you are one of the few people I'm inclined to feel sorry for with regards to birth year wines. I have some vintage averaging lined up for next year (1966, 1962, 1958 and 1954 average out to 4 good bottles of 1960).

Regarding the original post I'm in the camp with most responders. I would only share things I'm interested in there are a lot of them. And even then I usually wait until the next week.
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#39 Post by Andrew A r n t f i e l d » July 10th, 2019, 11:16 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:38 pm
Craig G wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:31 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 12:09 pm


Parker's bdx book summarized the year as (paraphrasing) small quantities of vile, undrinkable wine.
”The wines were terrible, and the pours were too small.”
Exactly. There's an old joke, surely in the Ron Memorial Thread, about the elderly couple at the early bird; the food is awful and the portions too small.
I first heard this in the film "Annie Hall". Woody Allen as Alvy Singer says:

There's an old joke: two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort and one of 'em says, "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible." The other one says, "Yeah, I know, and such small portions." Well, that's essentially how I feel about life. Full of loneliness and misery and suffering and unhappiness, and it's all over much too quickly.

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#40 Post by David Glasser » July 10th, 2019, 11:51 am

Jay Miller wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 9:56 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 10:03 am
Craig G wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 5:24 pm
Yes, very likely birthyear. I have a friend born in 57 and there’s not much available. We had a really good Madeira, though.
56 is even worse
As a 1960 myself you are one of the few people I'm inclined to feel sorry for with regards to birth year wines. I have some vintage averaging lined up for next year (1966, 1962, 1958 and 1954 average out to 4 good bottles of 1960).

Regarding the original post I'm in the camp with most responders. I would only share things I'm interested in there are a lot of them. And even then I usually wait until the next week.
I’m a 56 and my brother is a 60. Had a good 1960 Krohn Colheita. Beat anything I’ve ever had from 56.

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