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#1 Post by T.Phillips » June 12th, 2019, 1:26 pm

Just went and visited at MACDONALD with Alex and we were just blown away. Not only was it the greatest expression of Napa Cabernet that we have ever tasted, but Alex is also just straight the man. Incredibly down to earth and so humble considering that they are pushing out such incredible juice. So thankful to have been able to try their wine and they fully support the hype. What incredible juice, an incredible site and incredible people. We’re kind of still in shock from how amazing everything was.
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#2 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 12th, 2019, 1:40 pm

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Just went and visited at MACDONALD with Alex and we were just blown away. Not only was it the greatest expression of Napa Cabernet that we have ever tasted, but Alex is also just straight the man. Incredibly down to earth and so humble considering that they are pushing out such incredible juice. So thankful to have been able to try their wine and they fully support the hype. What incredible juice, an incredible site and incredible people. We’re kind of still in shock from how amazing everything was.
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#3 Post by Rboinski » June 12th, 2019, 1:44 pm

Awesome you had such a great experience. There really isn't a bad thing you can say about Alex and what he is doing with his brother MacDonald. I feel lucky to have the opportunity to purchase these and have a glass at pickup each year!
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#4 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » June 12th, 2019, 3:31 pm

One of the few wines I don’t even hesitate to purchase. Hearing the 2016s are magical.

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#5 Post by Frank Z » June 12th, 2019, 6:33 pm

The 2016s are indeed magical, IMO. Tasted with Alex in mid-May, and the raw intensity completely blew me away. Really pure representation of To Kalon, but in addition has this dark and earthy quality that shines through, leaving an incredibly complex and rich finish. First 100 pointer.
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#6 Post by Jeff Rosenberg » June 12th, 2019, 6:59 pm

I signed up for the mailing list. Am I correct in assuming that there is currently a wait to get allocated?

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#7 Post by ERPark » June 12th, 2019, 7:10 pm

Jeff Rosenberg wrote:
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I signed up for the mailing list. Am I correct in assuming that there is currently a SIGNIFICANT wait to get allocated?
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#8 Post by luc@sl@belle » June 12th, 2019, 7:40 pm

Couldn’t agree more. I visited mid May (first visit) and was blown away with the entire experience. Alex was phenomenal, as was the property and of course the 2016 vintage. THRILLED to be a supporter of Alex and Graeme. Cheers! [cheers.gif]

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#9 Post by AD Northup » June 12th, 2019, 7:57 pm

ERPark wrote:
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#10 Post by blarmston » June 12th, 2019, 9:06 pm

The wines are next level delicious, the estate is beautiful, and Alex and Graeme are awesome dudes, but can we all agree that the BEST part about a visit there is getting to hang out with Honeybee? I mean, that dog is awesome... 😉
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#11 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » June 13th, 2019, 4:30 am

Your title is perfect! Unique and awesome experience to visit their property, incredible wines and amazing people.

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#12 Post by Leonard Taylor » June 14th, 2019, 9:43 am

Anyone know how long on the wait list to buy? I signed up about two years ago.
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#13 Post by Alan Eden » June 14th, 2019, 11:10 am

Leonard Taylor wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 9:43 am
Anyone know how long on the wait list to buy? I signed up about two years ago.
Depends on production i believe, last few years there have been very few drop offs from the list so there is not a lot of movement. I seem to recall 3000 people on wait list so if 100 a year drop off which is highly unlikely your looking at 30 years. If they increase production this could come way down but 5-10 years as a minimum seems likely. SE is at least 10 years, SQN, Cayuse etc are 7-9 years by comparison
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#14 Post by David Baum » June 14th, 2019, 11:31 am

Many of the proprietors of wines like these also follow this board. Guys like Alan who post sh*t like questioning the 17 vintage having never tasted any of them, questioning the value of various wines pricing, generally post mostly negativity and more don't endear themselves to the listmasters and their wait will likely be infinity

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#15 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » June 14th, 2019, 12:57 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:10 am
Leonard Taylor wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 9:43 am
Anyone know how long on the wait list to buy? I signed up about two years ago.
Depends on production i believe, last few years there have been very few drop offs from the list so there is not a lot of movement. I seem to recall 3000 people on wait list so if 100 a year drop off which is highly unlikely your looking at 30 years. If they increase production this could come way down but 5-10 years as a minimum seems likely. SE is at least 10 years, SQN, Caymus etc are 7-9 years by comparison
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#16 Post by Alan Eden » June 14th, 2019, 2:08 pm

Bill Tex Landreth wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 12:57 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:10 am
Leonard Taylor wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 9:43 am
Anyone know how long on the wait list to buy? I signed up about two years ago.
Depends on production i believe, last few years there have been very few drop offs from the list so there is not a lot of movement. I seem to recall 3000 people on wait list so if 100 a year drop off which is highly unlikely your looking at 30 years. If they increase production this could come way down but 5-10 years as a minimum seems likely. SE is at least 10 years, SQN, Caymus etc are 7-9 years by comparison
Caymus?

Do you mean Cayuse?
There is a 50 year wait list for Caymus !!!!
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#17 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » June 14th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Ummm...

OK
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#18 Post by Alan Eden » June 14th, 2019, 2:12 pm

David Baum wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:31 am
Many of the proprietors of wines like these also follow this board. Guys like Alan who post sh*t like questioning the 17 vintage having never tasted any of them, questioning the value of various wines pricing, generally post mostly negativity and more don't endear themselves to the listmasters and their wait will likely be infinity
You mean unlike people like you who sit there trolling looking for ways to attack and belittle me to make yourself look good. Many people have questioned the 17 vintage, i am the only who questions the 13 vintage, so why do i question 13 ? I dont see what i said about Macdonald list as negative, it will be a long wait unless the production increases then we have no idea how it could change.
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#19 Post by Alan Eden » June 14th, 2019, 2:13 pm

Bill Tex Landreth wrote:
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Ummm...

OK
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#20 Post by Anton D » June 14th, 2019, 2:18 pm

I'm waiting for the real Alan to post.
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#21 Post by AlexS » June 14th, 2019, 2:48 pm

^ I don't think Rath drinks too much Cab
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#22 Post by JohnP » June 14th, 2019, 3:01 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 2:12 pm
David Baum wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:31 am
Many of the proprietors of wines like these also follow this board. Guys like Alan who post sh*t like questioning the 17 vintage having never tasted any of them, questioning the value of various wines pricing, generally post mostly negativity and more don't endear themselves to the listmasters and their wait will likely be infinity
You mean unlike people like you who sit there trolling looking for ways to attack and belittle me to make yourself look good. Many people have questioned the 17 vintage, i am the only who questions the 13 vintage, so why do i question 13 ? I dont see what i said about Macdonald list as negative, it will be a long wait unless the production increases then we have no idea how it could change.
I'm curious on your questioning of the 13 vintage. Can you please elaborate?
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#23 Post by Craig G » June 14th, 2019, 4:04 pm

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^ I don't think Rath drinks too much Cab
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#24 Post by AlexS » June 14th, 2019, 4:14 pm

Craig G wrote:
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^ I don't think Rath drinks too much Cab
I’ve seen him drinking MacDonald.
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#25 Post by Dan Hammer » June 14th, 2019, 4:25 pm

Craig G wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 4:04 pm
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^ I don't think Rath drinks too much Cab
I’ve seen him drinking MacDonald.
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#26 Post by David Baum » June 14th, 2019, 5:11 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 2:12 pm
David Baum wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:31 am
Many of the proprietors of wines like these also follow this board. Guys like Alan who post sh*t like questioning the 17 vintage having never tasted any of them, questioning the value of various wines pricing, generally post mostly negativity and more don't endear themselves to the listmasters and their wait will likely be infinity
You mean unlike people like you who sit there trolling looking for ways to attack and belittle me to make yourself look good. Many people have questioned the 17 vintage, i am the only who questions the 13 vintage, so why do i question 13 ? I dont see what i said about Macdonald list as negative, it will be a long wait unless the production increases then we have no idea how it could change.
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#27 Post by Alan Eden » June 14th, 2019, 6:00 pm

JohnP wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 3:01 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 2:12 pm
David Baum wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:31 am
Many of the proprietors of wines like these also follow this board. Guys like Alan who post sh*t like questioning the 17 vintage having never tasted any of them, questioning the value of various wines pricing, generally post mostly negativity and more don't endear themselves to the listmasters and their wait will likely be infinity
You mean unlike people like you who sit there trolling looking for ways to attack and belittle me to make yourself look good. Many people have questioned the 17 vintage, i am the only who questions the 13 vintage, so why do i question 13 ? I dont see what i said about Macdonald list as negative, it will be a long wait unless the production increases then we have no idea how it could change.
I'm curious on your questioning of the 13 vintage. Can you please elaborate?
I am the only person in the world who is not a fan of 13, i think the fruit will dry up in a lot of wines before the tannic structure resolves. I find 13’s far to hard for the fruit i taste. Again nobody agrees with me but im going with what i taste not what everyone tells me
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#28 Post by Bdklein » June 14th, 2019, 7:12 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 6:00 pm
JohnP wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 3:01 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 2:12 pm


You mean unlike people like you who sit there trolling looking for ways to attack and belittle me to make yourself look good. Many people have questioned the 17 vintage, i am the only who questions the 13 vintage, so why do i question 13 ? I dont see what i said about Macdonald list as negative, it will be a long wait unless the production increases then we have no idea how it could change.
I'm curious on your questioning of the 13 vintage. Can you please elaborate?
I am the only person in the world who is not a fan of 13, i think the fruit will dry up in a lot of wines before the tannic structure resolves. I find 13’s far to hard for the fruit i taste. Again nobody agrees with me but im going with what i taste not what everyone tells me
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#29 Post by Ian S » June 14th, 2019, 7:21 pm

Alan, if the '13 vintage is like '97 or '01 (which it seems to be), it will take a long time for the tannins to resolve but it will eventually be fantastic. Maybe you should stick with softer years from California, like 2012 or 2009. They both have some structure, but are drinking well comparatively early because they're not so harsh.

Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
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#30 Post by Bdklein » June 14th, 2019, 8:01 pm

Ian S wrote:
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Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
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#31 Post by Gray G » June 14th, 2019, 8:17 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:10 am
Leonard Taylor wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 9:43 am
Anyone know how long on the wait list to buy? I signed up about two years ago.
Depends on production i believe, last few years there have been very few drop offs from the list so there is not a lot of movement. I seem to recall 3000 people on wait list so if 100 a year drop off which is highly unlikely your looking at 30 years. If they increase production this could come way down but 5-10 years as a minimum seems likely. SE is at least 10 years, SQN, Cayuse etc are 7-9 years by comparison
also depends on price increases despite the fact G and A are not interested in doing that and thus Macdonald is a great small investment which precludes folks for dropping off the list

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#32 Post by Wes Barton » June 14th, 2019, 8:31 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 6:00 pm
I am the only person in the world who is not a fan of 13, i think the fruit will dry up in a lot of wines before the tannic structure resolves. I find 13’s far to hard for the fruit i taste. Again nobody agrees with me but im going with what i taste not what everyone tells me
'13 was a great vintage. Some winemakers have a habit of making their wines one handed. Time will tell if those wines you tasted will come around. Either your speculation was off or they didn't know how to handle the vintage. That wouldn't be the fault of the vintage.
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#33 Post by Alan Eden » June 14th, 2019, 8:41 pm

Ian S wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 7:21 pm
Alan, if the '13 vintage is like '97 or '01 (which it seems to be), it will take a long time for the tannins to resolve but it will eventually be fantastic. Maybe you should stick with softer years from California, like 2012 or 2009. They both have some structure, but are drinking well comparatively early because they're not so harsh.

Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
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#34 Post by Ian S » June 14th, 2019, 8:43 pm

Well, your threads certainly are entertaining. If not for the content, for the abuse you shoulder so readily. Keep on posting!
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#35 Post by Gray G » June 14th, 2019, 8:46 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:41 pm
Ian S wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 7:21 pm
Alan, if the '13 vintage is like '97 or '01 (which it seems to be), it will take a long time for the tannins to resolve but it will eventually be fantastic. Maybe you should stick with softer years from California, like 2012 or 2009. They both have some structure, but are drinking well comparatively early because they're not so harsh.

Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
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#36 Post by Alan Eden » June 14th, 2019, 8:46 pm

Ian S wrote:
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Well, your threads certainly are entertaining. If not for the content, for the abuse you shoulder so readily. Keep on posting!
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#37 Post by Ian S » June 14th, 2019, 8:50 pm

Gray G wrote:
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death to minions, lemmings etc....
Minions and lemmings were born to die prematurely, weren't they? Death is part of the job description for both.
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#38 Post by Ian S » June 14th, 2019, 8:52 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
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Its only certain people who like to pretend there clever
Yes, it's a shame they're always calling you names like illiterate.











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#39 Post by Gray G » June 14th, 2019, 9:16 pm

Ian S wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:50 pm
Gray G wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:46 pm
death to minions, lemmings etc....
Minions and lemmings were born to die prematurely, weren't they? Death is part of the job description for both.
no idea LOL, it's their behavior while living that counts, and we do know we are all dying naturally

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#40 Post by Gray G » June 14th, 2019, 9:17 pm

Bdklein wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:01 pm
Ian S wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 7:21 pm


Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
Brilliant !!
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#41 Post by ERPark » June 14th, 2019, 9:53 pm

Gray G wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 9:17 pm
Bdklein wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:01 pm
Ian S wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 7:21 pm


Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
Brilliant !!
that is funny
Funny how this has been mentioned previously..........

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#42 Post by David Baum » June 14th, 2019, 11:46 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:41 pm
Ian S wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 7:21 pm
Alan, if the '13 vintage is like '97 or '01 (which it seems to be), it will take a long time for the tannins to resolve but it will eventually be fantastic. Maybe you should stick with softer years from California, like 2012 or 2009. They both have some structure, but are drinking well comparatively early because they're not so harsh.

Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
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I really dont care, i speak what im thinking with no filter and that is often different from the norm. What a boring world it would be if nobody had an opinion
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Re: MACDONALD For The Win

#43 Post by Brian Lynch » June 15th, 2019, 6:55 am

Back on topic, Alex and the family wines are next level. Like K Leonard in a sea of talented NBA performers. Can’t wait for the ‘16. I thought the ‘15 was a ten. Their Amps must go to 11.

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Re: MACDONALD For The Win

#44 Post by Ian S » June 15th, 2019, 7:05 am

David Baum wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 11:46 pm

Nothing wrong with expressing one's opinion. But if your an idiot expressing an opinion....in the end.....? Well... Your still an idiot
I see you went to the Alan Eden school of apostrophe misuse and poor conjugation. Don't let Chris Seiber see your post!
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Re: MACDONALD For The Win

#45 Post by Alan Eden » June 15th, 2019, 7:26 am

Ian S wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 7:21 pm
Alan, if the '13 vintage is like '97 or '01 (which it seems to be), it will take a long time for the tannins to resolve but it will eventually be fantastic. Maybe you should stick with softer years from California, like 2012 or 2009. They both have some structure, but are drinking well comparatively early because they're not so harsh.

Seriously Alan, do you have EVERLAST tattooed on your forehead? It would explain why you're a verbal punching bag here.
I actually want the tannic structure and im not a huge 09 or 12 fan. Its just that in 13 the structure is so massive that im not sure it will resolve/reveal into fruit eventually. Really big wines that are always structured to begin with might take 30 years
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