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#151 Post by Dinesh Goyal » June 1st, 2019, 1:31 pm

Fell for it and ended up ordering 6 pack of Rauzan Segla and canon too.

LLC, Pichon Lalande, Pichon Baron and Cos come out next week. Will see how are they priced

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#152 Post by David Glasser » June 1st, 2019, 2:39 pm

I’m getting a vicarious thrill.
Still not seriously tempted.
Too old.
Too much wine.
Too little space.

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#153 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 3rd, 2019, 6:50 am

2018s are coming out in force; this time the Medoc superseconds Pichon Lalande, Ducru and LLC. Bought half cases of Ducru and Lalande in magnum.
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#154 Post by PCLIN » June 3rd, 2019, 7:54 am

Some Pichon Lalande and 2nd wine of Pichon, all in halves.
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#155 Post by crickey » June 3rd, 2019, 8:54 am

I take it by your purchases that neither of you thought that the Pichon Lalande was priced high. It seemed to come in higher than I expected.
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#156 Post by PCLIN » June 3rd, 2019, 9:00 am

crickey wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 8:54 am
I take it by your purchases that neither of you thought that the Pichon Lalande was priced high. It seemed to come in higher than I expected.

Higher than expected but I want them in halves, so bite the bullet.
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#157 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 3rd, 2019, 11:42 am

Exactly what I expected.
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#158 Post by YLee » June 3rd, 2019, 11:55 am

Llc much higher than I expected. I will just buy some 2015 for about $80 cheaper.
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#159 Post by BenW » June 3rd, 2019, 2:06 pm

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Does anyone know how many 375s one needs to order from Total Wine to get the wine in a OWC?
Pretty sure it's just double the 750 number but maybe someone else has a different experience?
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#160 Post by Dinesh Goyal » June 3rd, 2019, 5:33 pm

YLee wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 11:55 am
Llc much higher than I expected. I will just buy some 2015 for about $80 cheaper.
Or 2014. I bought 2018 but planning to also buy 2014.

For Pichon Lalande planning to skip 2018.

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#161 Post by YLee » June 3rd, 2019, 6:13 pm

Dinesh Goyal wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 5:33 pm
YLee wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 11:55 am
Llc much higher than I expected. I will just buy some 2015 for about $80 cheaper.
Or 2014. I bought 2018 but planning to also buy 2014.

For Pichon Lalande planning to skip 2018.
Yes. 2014 is a very good price.
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#162 Post by Justin Wittkopf » June 4th, 2019, 9:25 am

Visited Bordeaux last July so am feeling a “need” to buy some from the places we visited for nostalgia. Bought 6 of Canon and 12 of Les Carmes Haut Brion. But fell victim to some hype and bought some 6 of Calon Ségur and 12 of Rauzan-Ségla, as well.

Will likely get LLC, Lalande, Montrose, Conseillante, and maybe L’eglise Clinet.

Am selling off a bunch of wine through auction to afford this. Hope I don’t run out. ;)

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#163 Post by Jeff Leve » June 4th, 2019, 9:39 am

YLee wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 11:55 am
Llc much higher than I expected. I will just buy some 2015 for about $80 cheaper.
Buy what you like, that feels fairly priced to you. But FWIW, 2018 LLC is a much better wine than 2015. 2016 is better than 2015 as well, but I am not up on what that's selling for at the moment.

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#164 Post by crickey » June 4th, 2019, 9:42 am

The prices this week are coming in higher than I expected, basically at or a little higher than the in-bottle 2016s, and it is not clear that the 2018s are better. I've talked myself into buying some on the basis that the 2018s are a different expression of Bordeaux than the 2016s, so it will be interesting to compare them down the road, but I'm thinking more that I will skip the futures and wait for the sales once the wines are bottled.
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#165 Post by T.Phillips » June 5th, 2019, 3:29 am

Anyone have any suggestions on which whites to spring for in the mid to higher tiered productions?

Went for the PLL and LLC yesterday. Skipped the Ducru..
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#166 Post by TimB » June 5th, 2019, 1:49 pm

crickey wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 9:42 am
The prices this week are coming in higher than I expected, basically at or a little higher than the in-bottle 2016s, and it is not clear that the 2018s are better. I've talked myself into buying some on the basis that the 2018s are a different expression of Bordeaux than the 2016s, so it will be interesting to compare them down the road, but I'm thinking more that I will skip the futures and wait for the sales once the wines are bottled.
Montrose just released and it's $175/bottle, the same as the current price of the 2016, was planning on buying quite a few of the Montrose assuming it was priced the same as the 2016 was during its futures campaign ($135/bottle), probably not going to get as many now or might wait until release.
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#167 Post by Hao Lu » June 5th, 2019, 1:54 pm

I got quite some emails recently about 2018 futures. They are quite expensive.

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#168 Post by Justin Wittkopf » June 5th, 2019, 7:31 pm

Jeff Leve,

I’m intrigued by the variety of scores for the 2018 LMHB. Your note seems very intriguing and good score, same with Wine Advocate, Dunuck, and Suckling. Galloni, who I often find my palate agreeing with, in addition to your palate, gave the LMHB a pedestrian review and score (90-93). Any more thoughts on this wine?

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#169 Post by Jeff Leve » June 6th, 2019, 10:12 am

Justin Wittkopf wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 7:31 pm
Jeff Leve,

I’m intrigued by the variety of scores for the 2018 LMHB. Your note seems very intriguing and good score, same with Wine Advocate, Dunuck, and Suckling. Galloni, who I often find my palate agreeing with, in addition to your palate, gave the LMHB a pedestrian review and score (90-93). Any more thoughts on this wine?

Thanks,
Justin
Hi Justin

My tasting note says all I have to say on the wine. Sorry, there is nothing to add.

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#170 Post by Jeff Leve » June 6th, 2019, 10:13 am

T.Phillips wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 3:29 am
Anyone have any suggestions on which whites to spring for in the mid to higher tiered productions?

Went for the PLL and LLC yesterday. Skipped the Ducru..
2018 is not a strong vintage for the best dry white Bordeaux wine.

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#171 Post by T.Phillips » June 6th, 2019, 10:32 am

Jeff Leve wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 10:13 am
T.Phillips wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 3:29 am
Anyone have any suggestions on which whites to spring for in the mid to higher tiered productions?

Went for the PLL and LLC yesterday. Skipped the Ducru..
2018 is not a strong vintage for the best dry white Bordeaux wine.

Thanks Jeff, I’ll double down on reds haha
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#172 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 6th, 2019, 11:01 am

Justin Wittkopf wrote:
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Jeff Leve,

I’m intrigued by the variety of scores for the 2018 LMHB. Your note seems very intriguing and good score, same with Wine Advocate, Dunuck, and Suckling. Galloni, who I often find my palate agreeing with, in addition to your palate, gave the LMHB a pedestrian review and score (90-93). Any more thoughts on this wine?

Thanks,
Justin
I have not tasted the wine, but it seems if two of your trusted palates disagree on what is one of the more expensive wines, I would pass and go for something where there is alignment.
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#173 Post by Tom Reddick » June 8th, 2019, 10:07 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
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2018s are coming out in force; this time the Medoc superseconds Pichon Lalande, Ducru and LLC. Bought half cases of Ducru and Lalande in magnum.
Did you go for Palmer? A trusted friend ITB reported back on it to me not long ago, and so I got a 6 pack and am tempted to go for a second. I see it as something of a risk given the extremes people report- but that is also what inspired my curiosity most.
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#174 Post by Adam Levyn » June 9th, 2019, 9:48 pm

Now that we are almost at the release of the remaining Grand Vin of 2018 - are there any that folks have their eye on?

Lafite, Moulton, Ausone, VCC, Petrus (if you are fortunate enough to afford it)? Just curious if anyone is excited for a particular one.

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#175 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 9th, 2019, 11:18 pm

Tom Reddick wrote:
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Mark Golodetz wrote:
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2018s are coming out in force; this time the Medoc superseconds Pichon Lalande, Ducru and LLC. Bought half cases of Ducru and Lalande in magnum.
Did you go for Palmer? A trusted friend ITB reported back on it to me not long ago, and so I got a 6 pack and am tempted to go for a second. I see it as something of a risk given the extremes people report- but that is also what inspired my curiosity most.
I was offered some magnums of Palmer and succumbed.mixed reports from people whose palates I respect, but have a feeling that the tiny crop will make this rare enough to appreciate. And to be honest, the sexiest looking bottle of Bordeaux is a magnum of Palmer.
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#176 Post by Adam Levyn » June 12th, 2019, 11:14 am

How do folks feel about the pricing of Margaux / Mouton?

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#177 Post by crickey » June 12th, 2019, 11:48 am

Adam Levyn wrote:
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How do folks feel about the pricing of Margaux / Mouton?
1. They're first growths; they're expensive.
2. Given the general level of the offers thus far, they were about what I expected (I was guessing $550-560, and I've seen $570 today from several merchants).
3. Like many (most) other offers of 2018, you have to confront the choice of buying these or the in-bottle 2016s for about the same price, when the 2016s might be better. The 2016 Mouton, for instance, received 100 points from a number of major critics. And Mark G. thought it was the best young Mouton he had ever had and put his money where his tasting buds were, having gone back in for 3-1/2 more cases of a wine he won't be able to drink in its maturity, barring significant life-extension technology developments. At best, the 2018 will be as good. More likely not, although still possibly superb. I have bought some 2018s for diversity purposes (not the Mouton), but it has been hard to pull the trigger to buy, for instance, the 2018 Ducru, as good as it may be, when the 2016 is available for less and, again, is likely better.
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#178 Post by Adam Levyn » June 12th, 2019, 12:59 pm

Thanks Crickey - your thoughts are much appreciated. As with some others - I am looking for a handful of special wines to save given the important of 2018 (son's birth year).

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a few of the "first growths" so just trying to better gauge from folks where to focus.

With so many to choose from - Mouton, Lafite, Margaux, VCC, Cheval Blanc, Petrus ($$$$) etc. any thoughts you (or others) have around which to focus on would be most helpful. Tough to peel apart the bombardment of scores for these expensive wines but I liked the way you phrased it against the 2016.

Maybe said another way - if you could buy one or two 2018 First Growth - and price didn't matter - which would you choose if I may ask?

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#179 Post by CraigT » June 12th, 2019, 1:27 pm

Adam Levyn wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 12:59 pm
Thanks Crickey - your thoughts are much appreciated. As with some others - I am looking for a handful of special wines to save given the important of 2018 (son's birth year).

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a few of the "first growths" so just trying to better gauge from folks where to focus.

With so many to choose from - Mouton, Lafite, Margaux, VCC, Cheval Blanc, Petrus ($$$$) etc. any thoughts you (or others) have around which to focus on would be most helpful. Tough to peel apart the bombardment of scores for these expensive wines but I liked the way you phrased it against the 2016.

Maybe said another way - if you could buy one or two 2018 First Growth - and price didn't matter - which would you choose if I may ask?
Just want to bring this up. This vintage is unique in the world of Bordeaux. There's been nothing like this before. I think this could turn out some legendary wines. Some, not all. I've gone in on certain wine's that have great potential. [cheers.gif]
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#180 Post by Neal.Mollen » June 12th, 2019, 1:40 pm

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How do folks feel about the pricing of Margaux / Mouton?
Are you going to drink the wine?

I'd say the price is both about what I expected and utterly ridiculous.
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#181 Post by crickey » June 12th, 2019, 2:29 pm

Adam Levyn wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 12:59 pm
Thanks Crickey - your thoughts are much appreciated. As with some others - I am looking for a handful of special wines to save given the important of 2018 (son's birth year).

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a few of the "first growths" so just trying to better gauge from folks where to focus.

With so many to choose from - Mouton, Lafite, Margaux, VCC, Cheval Blanc, Petrus ($$$$) etc. any thoughts you (or others) have around which to focus on would be most helpful. Tough to peel apart the bombardment of scores for these expensive wines but I liked the way you phrased it against the 2016.

Maybe said another way - if you could buy one or two 2018 First Growth - and price didn't matter - which would you choose if I may ask?
I would be choosing solely on hearsay, and I don't have any better information than you do. Pick the wines with the best scores: Latour, for the historic first growths; Petrus, Ausone or Lafleur, if you want to include the Right Bank wines. If money is sort of an object, and you did not care about the 2016 vs. 2018 issue I raised because 2018 is a special year, probably Mouton or Lafite.
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#182 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 12th, 2019, 2:34 pm

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June 12th, 2019, 1:27 pm

Just want to bring this up. This vintage is unique in the world of Bordeaux. There's been nothing like this before. I think this could turn out some legendary wines. [cheers.gif]
I’m really not sure if this is real or sarcasm. If the former, could you explain why? I’m not doubting, just questioning given that it is quite a big statement in the context of a region that has existed for hundreds of years.

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#183 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 12th, 2019, 2:44 pm

Every vintage in Bordeaux is unique, and 70% are vintages of the century.
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#184 Post by Adam Levyn » June 12th, 2019, 2:58 pm

Thanks again for all the help - much appreciated!

Yes, planning to one day drink the wine in the far future.
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#185 Post by Marcus Dean » June 12th, 2019, 3:09 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
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#186 Post by CraigT » June 12th, 2019, 3:17 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 2:34 pm
CraigT wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 1:27 pm

Just want to bring this up. This vintage is unique in the world of Bordeaux. There's been nothing like this before. I think this could turn out some legendary wines. [cheers.gif]
I’m really not sure if this is real or sarcasm. If the former, could you explain why? I’m not doubting, just questioning given that it is quite a big statement in the context of a region that has existed for hundreds of years.
The tasting notes from about everybody has indicated it is something different. Not seen before. The high tannins, concentration with the freshness. The best most have some up with is a combination of 2009 & 2016. Some have said it reminded them of 1961 etc. [cheers.gif]
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#187 Post by DanielP » June 12th, 2019, 3:24 pm

CraigT wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 3:17 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 2:34 pm
CraigT wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 1:27 pm

Just want to bring this up. This vintage is unique in the world of Bordeaux. There's been nothing like this before. I think this could turn out some legendary wines. [cheers.gif]
I’m really not sure if this is real or sarcasm. If the former, could you explain why? I’m not doubting, just questioning given that it is quite a big statement in the context of a region that has existed for hundreds of years.
The tasting notes from about everybody has indicated it is something different. Not seen before. The high tannins, concentration with the freshness. The best most have some up with is a combination of 2009 & 2016. Some have said it reminded them of 1961 etc. [cheers.gif]
Of course it's different. Not to condescend, but every vintage is literally different and will taste different. As long as the vintage is at least good, the Bordelais will compare it to every single great vintage they can think of.

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#188 Post by Marcus Dean » June 12th, 2019, 3:56 pm

CraigT wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 3:17 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 2:34 pm
CraigT wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 1:27 pm

Just want to bring this up. This vintage is unique in the world of Bordeaux. There's been nothing like this before. I think this could turn out some legendary wines. [cheers.gif]
I’m really not sure if this is real or sarcasm. If the former, could you explain why? I’m not doubting, just questioning given that it is quite a big statement in the context of a region that has existed for hundreds of years.
The tasting notes from about everybody has indicated it is something different. Not seen before. The high tannins, concentration with the freshness. The best most have some up with is a combination of 2009 & 2016. Some have said it reminded them of 1961 etc. [cheers.gif]
Craig, I sure hope all the wines you buy turn out to be fantastic, I havent been in the game as long as a lot of people on this board, 2000 was my entry into the BDX enprimeur market.
I remember reading the notes back then and suffering extreme FOMO, since then I have seen the greatest ever once in a lifetime vintage in 2005, 2009, 2010, 2015 and 2016. And who tasted the 61s in barrel and made that comparison?

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#189 Post by David Glasser » June 12th, 2019, 8:10 pm

CraigT wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 3:17 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 2:34 pm
CraigT wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 1:27 pm

Just want to bring this up. This vintage is unique in the world of Bordeaux. There's been nothing like this before. I think this could turn out some legendary wines. [cheers.gif]
I’m really not sure if this is real or sarcasm. If the former, could you explain why? I’m not doubting, just questioning given that it is quite a big statement in the context of a region that has existed for hundreds of years.
The tasting notes from about everybody has indicated it is something different. Not seen before. The high tannins, concentration with the freshness. The best most have some up with is a combination of 2009 & 2016. Some have said it reminded them of 1961 etc. [cheers.gif]
I've heard this at least a half-dozen times in the last 35 years. Doesn’t mean the wines aren’t great. But there have been and will be wines just as great.

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#190 Post by Tom Reddick » June 12th, 2019, 10:40 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
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I was offered some magnums of Palmer and succumbed.mixed reports from people whose palates I respect, but have a feeling that the tiny crop will make this rare enough to appreciate. And to be honest, the sexiest looking bottle of Bordeaux is a magnum of Palmer.
Ha- very true! Should be an interesting wine- I will be opening one at release for sure.
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#191 Post by Tom Reddick » June 12th, 2019, 10:44 pm

Adam Levyn wrote:
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How do folks feel about the pricing of Margaux / Mouton?
I think the pricing is reasonable- and actually a bit lower than what I was expecting given that some chateaux opted to take a strong price hike in 2018 after a few vintages where sales have been pretty solid compared to the late 00s/early10s era.

For my part, depending on how a tasting of 2015 Mouton goes in the next few weeks, I may be in for 2018 Mouton, but I am not going to go after Margaux. The 2012 in particular was disappointing in that what could have been a really classy mid-weight was, in my opinion, pushed too far in order to get a little extra body and weight.

Mouton is a personal favorite, but they also seem to experiment quite a bit more than the other firsts. Sometimes that is good, sometimes not, but right now they are on a real hot streak- and so that is the only 2018 first growth I would personally consider buying by the case, and may well be the only 2018 I purchase. I am a Lafite fan too, but that is not generally as good a choice (for my tastes) in vintages that test the extremes on warmth. I find I like it best in vintages like 1988 that are very classic in presentation.
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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#192 Post by Russell Faulkner » June 12th, 2019, 11:07 pm

Tom, remember you can buy 35 cases of Kabi for that. :)

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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#193 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 13th, 2019, 7:22 am

Tom Reddick wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 10:44 pm
Adam Levyn wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 11:14 am
How do folks feel about the pricing of Margaux / Mouton?
I think the pricing is reasonable- and actually a bit lower than what I was expecting given that some chateaux opted to take a strong price hike in 2018 after a few vintages where sales have been pretty solid compared to the late 00s/early10s era.

For my part, depending on how a tasting of 2015 Mouton goes in the next few weeks, I may be in for 2018 Mouton, but I am not going to go after Margaux. The 2012 in particular was disappointing in that what could have been a really classy mid-weight was, in my opinion, pushed too far in order to get a little extra body and weight.

Mouton is a personal favorite, but they also seem to experiment quite a bit more than the other firsts. Sometimes that is good, sometimes not, but right now they are on a real hot streak- and so that is the only 2018 first growth I would personally consider buying by the case, and may well be the only 2018 I purchase. I am a Lafite fan too, but that is not generally as good a choice (for my tastes) in vintages that test the extremes on warmth. I find I like it best in vintages like 1988 that are very classic in presentation.
Lafite has notably low alchol, 13.3%. Might be to your taste.
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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#194 Post by Adam Levyn » June 13th, 2019, 10:28 am

I bought some Ausone today. Appreciate all of the help - will keep an eye out for the others and now thinking about Lafite vs. Mouton one what is currently released.

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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#195 Post by kevanmah » June 13th, 2019, 11:06 am

Curious: Where are you guys buying all of this 18 Bordeaux? A website?
It's a birth year for my son, so I was thinking of grabbing a case of one of the first growths that is showing well.

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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#196 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » June 13th, 2019, 11:10 am

kevanmah wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 11:06 am
Curious: Where are you guys buying all of this 18 Bordeaux? A website?
It's a birth year for my son, so I was thinking of grabbing a case of one of the first growths that is showing well.
Total Wine (concierge website) or JJ Buckley are the two I use.

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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#197 Post by Adam Levyn » June 13th, 2019, 11:27 am

I am using Total Wine and Zachys.

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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#198 Post by etomasi » June 13th, 2019, 12:56 pm

I've bought from Totalwine for a few years. Also MacArthurs in DC, K&L and JJ Buckley (in the past). All pretty reputable. Totalwine is my fav due to the 50% down. So Far I got a few Pichon Lalands, Leoville Las Cases, and Carmes Haut brion. I'm contemplating 1-2 Lafite or Mouton. Mouton is going pretty quick tho.
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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#199 Post by kevanmah » June 13th, 2019, 1:38 pm

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 11:10 am
kevanmah wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 11:06 am
Curious: Where are you guys buying all of this 18 Bordeaux? A website?
It's a birth year for my son, so I was thinking of grabbing a case of one of the first growths that is showing well.
Total Wine (concierge website) or JJ Buckley are the two I use.
Thanks, I went ahead and got some LMHB and Cos to cellar away as a birth year wine to celebrate various milestones in my son's life.
There is a Total Wine near me and I like that you only put 50% down on the futures.
Very tempted by that Mouton and Lafite, but $570 a pop was a little too painful on the wallet.

Hopefully I can get another case of some high-end 2018 Napa cabs that can go the distance as they are start showing up.
I was sad that Ridge didn't have enough Monte Bello futures to offer me any this year, as I only started buying from them 2 years ago, but they did make me buy the other Estate wines, which feels a little bait & switchy, but its good wine so I'm not too upset.

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Re: 2018 Bordeaux - What are you buying (and why)?

#200 Post by C Wagner » June 13th, 2019, 4:08 pm

kevanmah wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 11:06 am
Curious: Where are you guys buying all of this 18 Bordeaux? A website?
It's a birth year for my son, so I was thinking of grabbing a case of one of the first growths that is showing well.
I’m using JJ Buckley, but I’d consider Total Wine as well. I like the idea of TW’s 50% down and 50% later, but I personally prefer my customer service at JJB and the fact that I can forget about them for 2 years and don’t have to remember to pay for the remaining 50% later.

Maybe will try TW for a single large format if I’m feeling frisky later tonight.
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