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Is the Weber Genesis still the best?

#1 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 5th, 2019, 3:02 pm

Need to replace my gas grill. Any reason not to get a Weber? Anything better in the market? I already have a bge for smoking.

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#2 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 5th, 2019, 4:18 pm

For the money, no nothing better.

You can spend a shit ton more money and get something prettier, but will the food taste any better?

Costco has the Genesis II S-435 right now here in Texas for $999. That’s $250 cheaper than anywhere else. I bought one last week.
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#3 Post by CJ Beazley » May 6th, 2019, 4:49 am

Any thoughts on the stainless grates? Do y’all like them or replace them with cast iron?
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#4 Post by Scott G r u n e r » May 6th, 2019, 1:53 pm

Cast Iron all they way, IMO. Take longer to heat, but worth it.

I have had two gas grills over the past 20+ years. Both Weber and will always buy Weber for gas grill. They built well, built to last, and they stand behind their products and design them to be, for the most part, maintainable. One of my burners cracked so I was trying to purchase replacement burner and emailed support- they found out I was still under the 10 year warranty and promptly sent me out a full set of new burner tubes.
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#5 Post by Josh Grossman » May 6th, 2019, 3:30 pm

Ethan Abraham wrote:
May 5th, 2019, 3:02 pm
Need to replace my gas grill. Any reason not to get a Weber? Anything better in the market? I already have a bge for smoking.
I'm the opposite of Hank Hill. In my opinion, propane is an upside down broiler, not a grill. I do covet a Big Green Egg but have a Weber Kettle now. It's amazing how many ceramic kamado style grills there are now.

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#6 Post by bretrooks » May 6th, 2019, 10:49 pm

I'm also in the market for a new grill and have just started looking around a little. Not sure the budget will accommodate a Genesis, so I'm looking into the Spirit (although I read that line's quality has dropped in recent years) and at the 3 Embers four-burner model which has gotten some solid reviews.

Didn't see any Webers when at my Costco over the weekend, but will have to look again next time I'm there.
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#7 Post by C. Mc Cart » May 7th, 2019, 6:22 am

Recent experience with a warranty issue convinced me even more that Weber is the way to go. The liner on my 7 year old SS hood on my Summit started to have some slight corrosion (heat related) this spring. Call them up they asked for a photo and they fed-ex'd a new hood to me (that's a big freakin box!) within 2 days. I'm in Canada. Very impressed. Didn't have to jump through hoops or go anywhere.

I prefer the SS grates to cast iron. In our climate, no matter how careful I was, I'd always get some rust from time to time, which is easy enough to remedy, but still takes some time and a pain if you see it when you were about to use the grill.

If you get the thicker SS grates from the Summit line or better Genesis models, they work just as well and are bomb-proof.
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#8 Post by JoeD » May 7th, 2019, 6:26 am

Ethan - what is your use case for Propane? Not judging in any way - but you noted you already have a BGE. Do you not like direct grilling on Charcoal? Too long to heat? I have an egg which I use for most things, but people always ask me if I still have a propane grill. I do not see how I would use it. Thanks everyone!
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#9 Post by Jay $$ Winton » May 7th, 2019, 6:35 am

My Genesis still going strong after many years. I have replaced the original grills and flavorizer bars but everything else is original. Charcoal is great but being able to heat the grill in 10 minutes is very handy in a busy world.
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#10 Post by Jeff Bloom » May 7th, 2019, 7:10 am

Jay $$ Winton wrote:
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My Genesis still going strong after many years. I have replaced the original grills and flavorizer bars but everything else is original. Charcoal is great but being able to heat the grill in 10 minutes is very handy in a busy world.
This. Love charcoal but time and clean up make gas essential for me (plus the ability to grill year round - I'm not messing around with charcoal with snow on the ground but I do use the Genesis). I rarely use the charcoal grill these days.

I've had the Genesis close to 20 years. I've replaced the grills, the flavorizer bars and the igniter.

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#11 Post by mark rudner » May 7th, 2019, 7:57 am

just as a reference point, 6 years ago when i moved into my current house there was a large viking cart grill. all of the grates, bars needed replacing. if i had used all viking replacement parts (i didn't) i was well over $1700!!! almost the price of a summit at the time.
i would have much preferred to start over with a genesis which in my experiences never fail.

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Re: Is the Weber Genesis still the best?

#12 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 7th, 2019, 8:22 am

JoeD wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 6:26 am
Ethan - what is your use case for Propane? Not judging in any way - but you noted you already have a BGE. Do you not like direct grilling on Charcoal? Too long to heat? I have an egg which I use for most things, but people always ask me if I still have a propane grill. I do not see how I would use it. Thanks everyone!
Yes. Mostly use the grill for weeknights. Quick heat and basically no cleanup compared to the eggs. Also safer with crazy toddler running around!

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#13 Post by Mike Cohen » May 7th, 2019, 9:51 am

Jay $$ Winton wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 6:35 am
My Genesis still going strong after many years. I have replaced the original grills and flavorizer bars but everything else is original. Charcoal is great but being able to heat the grill in 10 minutes is very handy in a busy world.
Agree completely. I've had my Genesis Silver B for 17 years. Replaced the grates and the flavorizer bars several times over the years. The igniter doesn't work anymore so I light it with a match. But it works like a charm. We grill 12 months out of the year and in the dead of winter when it's freezing. It's great for what we use it for. Can't imagine messing around with charcoal in the winter or anytime on a weeknight for that matter.

My one complaint is that the grates rust quickly. Not sure what to do about that.

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#14 Post by ClarkstonMark » May 7th, 2019, 10:50 am

mark rudner wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 7:57 am
just as a reference point, 6 years ago when i moved into my current house there was a large viking cart grill. all of the grates, bars needed replacing. if i had used all viking replacement parts (i didn't) i was well over $1700!!! almost the price of a summit at the time.
i would have much preferred to start over with a genesis which in my experiences never fail.
Did you go with Viking parts? I have one of those Viking grills. It is 18 years old now. Very solid.
I replaced the grates with aftermarket parts a few years ago for ~$120. Bars are still in excellent shape.
The grill retailed for ~$3000 btw; I got it with an offer of buying 3-4 Viking kitchen appliances, get the grill free.
I'm tempted to get a Costco membership just for that Genesis mentioned upthread to replace the Viking.
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#15 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 7th, 2019, 11:10 am

ClarkstonMark wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 10:50 am
mark rudner wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 7:57 am
just as a reference point, 6 years ago when i moved into my current house there was a large viking cart grill. all of the grates, bars needed replacing. if i had used all viking replacement parts (i didn't) i was well over $1700!!! almost the price of a summit at the time.
i would have much preferred to start over with a genesis which in my experiences never fail.
Did you go with Viking parts? I have one of those Viking grills. It is 18 years old now. Very solid.
I replaced the grates with aftermarket parts a few years ago for ~$120. Bars are still in excellent shape.
The grill retailed for ~$3000 btw; I got it with an offer of buying 3-4 Viking kitchen appliances, get the grill free.
I'm tempted to get a Costco membership just for that Genesis mentioned upthread to replace the Viking.
You can get a membership, buy the grill and then get a prorated rebate for the full membership amount the next day.
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#16 Post by David K o l i n » May 7th, 2019, 11:12 am

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From the Genesis this afternoon

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#17 Post by JDavisRoby » May 7th, 2019, 11:17 am

I dumped my Weber gas grill two years ago for a combination of Traeger and Weber Kettle. Got tired of dealing with rusty vaporizer bars and a faulty ignition. I also kept two propane tanks so I would never run out. That’s the best advice I could give anyone who wants to stay propane. Haven’t missed it one bit.

The Traeger is a great option for quick weeknight basic grilling where you may not need a 500*+ temp. Marinated chicken breasts turned out great Monday night at 450. I also do reverse sear steaks in addition to weekend smokes.

The Weber Kettle is amazingly cheap and easy to use. I use an electric charcoal starter that’s marketed for Komodo grills but it works great for me. I can actually have a hot flame going in 10-15 minutes. Not as quick as gas, but I get it going early enough that I have plenty of time while doing other meal prep.
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#18 Post by CJ Beazley » May 7th, 2019, 12:46 pm

David K o l i n wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 11:12 am
1D29C82F-2AFA-4A4C-BC42-FE92C83309ED.jpegFrom the Genesis this afternoon
David, how old is yours? The Genesis II S-435 on their website shows them having the round stainless grates; my Costco hasn’t had them yet so I haven’t seen them in person.
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#19 Post by David K o l i n » May 7th, 2019, 12:47 pm

CJ Beazley wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 12:46 pm
David K o l i n wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 11:12 am
1D29C82F-2AFA-4A4C-BC42-FE92C83309ED.jpegFrom the Genesis this afternoon
David, how old is yours? The Genesis II S-435 on their website shows them having the round stainless grates; my Costco hasn’t had them yet so I haven’t seen them in person.
3-4 years, probably

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#20 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 7th, 2019, 12:53 pm

CJ Beazley wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 12:46 pm
David K o l i n wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 11:12 am
1D29C82F-2AFA-4A4C-BC42-FE92C83309ED.jpegFrom the Genesis this afternoon
David, how old is yours? The Genesis II S-435 on their website shows them having the round stainless grates; my Costco hasn’t had them yet so I haven’t seen them in person.
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#21 Post by CJ Beazley » May 7th, 2019, 12:59 pm

Bill Tex Landreth wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 12:53 pm
CJ Beazley wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 12:46 pm
David K o l i n wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 11:12 am
1D29C82F-2AFA-4A4C-BC42-FE92C83309ED.jpegFrom the Genesis this afternoon
David, how old is yours? The Genesis II S-435 on their website shows them having the round stainless grates; my Costco hasn’t had them yet so I haven’t seen them in person.
Three left in Arlington as of Sunday.
Tex, which grates does yours have?
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#22 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 7th, 2019, 1:02 pm

Rounded and welded stainless. I don't see any need to change them out at this point. I will be getting a cut to size steel plate to use as a plancha as well. Place in Fort Worth has lots of grades of steel and will plasma cut on demand.
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#23 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 7th, 2019, 2:35 pm

Thx for all the replies btw. Weber ordered....next time anyone finds themselves in North NJ...

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#24 Post by mark rudner » May 7th, 2019, 2:57 pm

ClarkstonMark wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 10:50 am
mark rudner wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 7:57 am
just as a reference point, 6 years ago when i moved into my current house there was a large viking cart grill. all of the grates, bars needed replacing. if i had used all viking replacement parts (i didn't) i was well over $1700!!! almost the price of a summit at the time.
i would have much preferred to start over with a genesis which in my experiences never fail.
Did you go with Viking parts? I have one of those Viking grills. It is 18 years old now. Very solid.
I replaced the grates with aftermarket parts a few years ago for ~$120. Bars are still in excellent shape.
The grill retailed for ~$3000 btw; I got it with an offer of buying 3-4 Viking kitchen appliances, get the grill free.
I'm tempted to get a Costco membership just for that Genesis mentioned upthread to replace the Viking.

did not go with viking parts but do not recall where i got the replacements, sorry

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#25 Post by CJ Beazley » June 28th, 2019, 10:25 am

Mic drop here boys, I give you the Infierno X-100 clocking in at $91 grand
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#26 Post by MitchTallan » June 29th, 2019, 6:44 am

I picked up one of these this Spring and love it https://www.amazon.com/Weber-15502001-P ... 4697&psc=1
It replaced my 20 year old Weber Silver charcoal burner which finally corroded through on the bottom kettle.
The Performer takes a little Coleman lamp/stove style screw on propane tank and with one push of the piezo electric button, "whoosh" and you have a nice flame thrower getting your charcoal started. Weber added an inset circular grill so that you don't need to remove the entire grill surface to add charcoal. So far I've used it 20 times on the same small propane tank without needing to replace it.
I can get have a fire to cook over in the same ten minutes it takes to get a gas grill hot.
While visiting my brother in Hawaii a few months back I used his Weber gas grill almost daily for a week to cook the dirt cheap local tuna.
Charcoal and gas cook differently. There is no way around it. You can sear much better over charcoal. There are less off-flavors from the smell of burning fat collected in the burner baffles. You can control the heat distribution better. I prefer charcoal. Many others don't. I get it.
After every ten cooks or so, I need to dump the ash catcher under the kettle and replace it. Takes ten seconds.

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