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#551 Post by **Brad Baker** » April 19th, 2019, 2:57 pm

Robert,

They normally always come wrapped in paper/plastic combo and then are inserted into a straw holder with the booklet in between. All bottles get it whether packed in a six pack (normally wooden) or a single wooden box. Each booklet corresponds to a particular bottle number in that release of the specific 1,911 bottles. If the straw was removed when you received them then the booklet would have also disappeared since nothing was there to hold it with the bottle.

#552 Post by **Robert M yers** » April 19th, 2019, 3:57 pm

Thanks! I contacted the retailer and they are sending me the booklet from the six pack I just ordered. Hope it’s the same lot I just had, will report back when I pop the next bottle.

#553 Post by **Frank Murray III** » April 20th, 2019, 9:02 pm

2012 Dhondt-Grellet Champagne Premier Cru Blanc de Blancs Extra-Brut Les Nogers - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (4/20/2019)
First of two. This is 100% Chard, 3 g/l dosage, disgorged March 2018. We spread this over 4 glasses, and the server had thought I wasn't drinking any so she really hit the first 3 glasses with big pours but I caught her in time so I could get 3-4 ozs. Initially, this came across with a polished, lightly complex frame, with fresh cut green apple, lemon and even a bit of pineapple. It seemed more flashy than structured, but as it sat and in the last few sips, it seemed to add some backbone which I appreciated. My hunch is that we drank this too quickly and it had to catch up, if that makes sense. Clean and drinking nicely, overall.

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dr0ch · #554 Post by **dr0ch** » April 21st, 2019, 6:17 am

1990 La Grande Dame (magnum) - This was drinking very well. Citrus and toasty notes. Creamy mouthfeel with soft and fine bubbles. There is also a nice acidic spine that adds some bounce to the creamy profile. Really good.

Sarah Kirschbaum · #555 Post by **Sarah Kirschbaum** » April 21st, 2019, 7:00 am

dr0ch wrote: ↑
April 21st, 2019, 6:17 am
1990 La Grande Dame (magnum) - This was drinking very well. Citrus and toasty notes. Creamy mouthfeel with soft and fine bubbles. There is also a nice acidic spine that adds some bounce to the creamy profile. Really good.

Shows the advantage of magnum format for sure, as these are showing tired from 750 in my experience.

#556 Post by **dsimmons** » April 22nd, 2019, 12:33 pm

2008 Veuve Clicquot with Easter ham. Very nice. Crisp and bright.

#557 Post by **Frank Murray III** » April 22nd, 2019, 8:43 pm

damn, this 2009 is excellent.

2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (4/22/2019)
Drinking the last ounce or so from the bottle that was opened about 3 hours ago. It's pretty still now, but the wine is revealed with the air and the room temp, too. Gorgeous stuff. Stony, with lemon, apple. The balance on this is spot on. Acidity, just the right lift of fruit and structure. And the 2008 is suggested to be of higher caliber than this 2009? Really? I gotta buy some of the 2008 as this 2009 is awesome.

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#558 Post by **K John Joseph** » April 23rd, 2019, 8:28 am

Dom 2008 hits Central Market (a very high end grocer) in the DFW Metroplex on the same weekend as their 25% off French Wine sale last weekend. DFW winos immediately go nuts, and the scramble to buyout stock began. An anonymous buyer dropped $10K at multiple locations to buy out every bottle on arrival. Thank goodness I snagged 4 from Costco. Got a 2008 Cristal for $187.50. Got 3 Krug 166emes.

#559 Post by **Brad Baker** » April 23rd, 2019, 6:54 pm

Frank Murray III wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2019, 8:43 pm
damn, this 2009 is excellent.

2009 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut - France, Champagne (4/22/2019)
Drinking the last ounce or so from the bottle that was opened about 3 hours ago. It's pretty still now, but the wine is revealed with the air and the room temp, too. Gorgeous stuff. Stony, with lemon, apple. The balance on this is spot on. Acidity, just the right lift of fruit and structure. And the 2008 is suggested to be of higher caliber than this 2009? Really? I gotta buy some of the 2008 as this 2009 is awesome.
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Frank,

Great post and it shows what you can do when you own your own vineyards and follow good, clean, sustainable farming practices (along with clean, pure winemaking). Size doesn't matter, owning your own land and doing your own farming in a proper way does. Most of the more well known negociants (Moet, Veuve, Bollinger, Taittinger, Charles Heidsieck, Krug, etc...) actually do this with their own vineyards, but when you have to purchase 50-70% of your grape supply, things get more complicated and fall apart. Roederer shows what is possible when you are 'big' and control your own destiny.

#560 Post by **Frank Murray III** » April 24th, 2019, 3:29 pm

Brad, well said. As a bit of a drift but on topic I suppose, do you have any thoughts on the 2011 Vilmart CdC? I picked up a few and was thinking of doing one this weekend.

#561 Post by **Brad Baker** » April 24th, 2019, 5:41 pm

Frank,

Just tried it for the first time a couple weeks ago. It is young and needs time in my book, but I feel this way about most Coeur de Cuvees. The 2007 is just now starting to fire on all cylinders for me and show seamless integration of all the different flavors in the wine. I think the 2011 is a great wine and another example of Vilmart performing well in a less than stellar vintage and a shining example of how good work in 2011 led to very good wines. The wine is full of fruit, but also a lot of tart structure and touches of oak right now. Since you have multiples, pop one to enjoy in its youth and get a feeling for all the ways it will grow over time. Enjoy it over a few hours and watch it change in the glass. I bet the last sip is the best.

#562 Post by **Brad Baker** » April 24th, 2019, 5:46 pm

I also have to add that I am shocked the 2011 Vilmart Coeur de Cuvee is already in the US. This was just released at the winery in the past month or so. Normally it takes a while for this to show up in the US. The positive side is that Vilmart will not sell or ship any Coeur unless it has at least one year of post-disgorgement age so even these early shipments should be in good shape.. End result is that you know the wine and dosage/liqueur are integrated when you purchase the wine.

#563 Post by **Warren Taranow** » April 24th, 2019, 8:25 pm

I love all of my Vilmart CdC and GCd'Or, but had something different tonight.
NV (2010) Jérôme Prévost Champagne La Closerie Extra Brut Les Beguines - France, Champagne (4/24/2019)
Wow, this was really good despite the difficult vintage (LC10). I guessed Pinot Meunier without seeing the label; crisp red fruit and floral elements. Great mineral notes and cut. The ample fruit made it seem sweet, but it's bone dry. It started angular, but fleshed out with time in the glass, showing creamy influence of oak aging. I have more in the cellar from a recent purchase; I'll have to check on the vintage.

Nowell Karten · #564 Post by **Nowell Karten** » April 25th, 2019, 1:12 am

Warren Taranow wrote: ↑
April 24th, 2019, 8:25 pm
NV (2010) Jérôme Prévost Champagne La Closerie Extra Brut Les Beguines - France, Champagne (4/24/2019)
Wow, this was really good despite the difficult vintage (LC10)...

Thanks for this note, Warren. I had the LC08 (2008 vintage) recently, and it was fantastic. I have some of the LC10 in my locker and have been wondering about it, as I haven't yet tasted a 2010-based Champagne that I've liked.

Frederico L e e · #565 Post by **Frederico L e e** » April 25th, 2019, 4:25 am

K John Joseph wrote: ↑
April 23rd, 2019, 8:28 am
Dom 2008 hits Central Market (a very high end grocer) in the DFW Metroplex on the same weekend as their 25% off French Wine sale last weekend. DFW winos immediately go nuts, and the scramble to buyout stock began. An anonymous buyer dropped $10K at multiple locations to buy out every bottle on arrival. Thank goodness I snagged 4 from Costco. Got a 2008 Cristal for $187.50. Got 3 Krug 166emes.

$187 for Cristal '08

I paid $324 Cdn ($240 US)

#566 Post by **Warren Taranow** » April 25th, 2019, 5:57 am

Nowell Karten wrote: ↑
April 25th, 2019, 1:12 am

Warren Taranow wrote: ↑
April 24th, 2019, 8:25 pm
NV (2010) Jérôme Prévost Champagne La Closerie Extra Brut Les Beguines
Thanks for this note, Warren. I had the LC08 (2008 vintage) recently, and it was fantastic. I have some of the LC10 in my locker and have been wondering about it, as I haven't yet tasted a 2010-based Champagne that I've liked.

Nowell,
I also avoided 2010 Champagnes with a few exceptions: Prévost, and Vilmart CdC and GC Rubis. My initial impression of this wine wasn't entirely favorable although my wife liked it immediately. It grew on me as the dinner progressed.
Cheers,
Warren

#567 Post by **K John Joseph** » April 25th, 2019, 8:38 am

Frederico L e e wrote: ↑
April 25th, 2019, 4:25 am

K John Joseph wrote: ↑
April 23rd, 2019, 8:28 am
Dom 2008 hits Central Market (a very high end grocer) in the DFW Metroplex on the same weekend as their 25% off French Wine sale last weekend. DFW winos immediately go nuts, and the scramble to buyout stock began. An anonymous buyer dropped $10K at multiple locations to buy out every bottle on arrival. Thank goodness I snagged 4 from Costco. Got a 2008 Cristal for $187.50. Got 3 Krug 166emes.
$187 for Cristal '08
I paid $324 Cdn ($240 US)

There were 3 bottles at $250 + 25% off coupon.

#568 Post by **Warren Taranow** » April 25th, 2019, 7:19 pm

2008 Guy Charlemagne Champagne Grand Cru Mesnillésime Vieilles Vignes Blanc de Blancs
Damn, I didn't remember what this was and didn't read my own tasting note before popping the cork. While fantastic now, this is a wine that would have been nice to lay down and open every five years for decades. Fairly dark yellow for an oh-eight, but full of verve and youth. Creamy lemon and orange, white flowers, great minerality. Lithe but full bodied from start to finish.
I made a mistake only buying four, and a bigger mistake opening two so early. The real deal, a tete-de-cuvée.

#569 Post by **Merrill Lindquist** » April 25th, 2019, 8:04 pm

Pol Roger Brut Reserve. I like this for the money.

#570 Post by **Steve Nordhoff** » April 30th, 2019, 7:07 am

Two rose half bottles for comparison

Billecart Salmon Rose - essentially no info on the bottle. Raspberry and dried cherry. These seems a bit drier than 10 years ago, which is fine with me. Very nice, solid and consistent.

Roederer 2012 Rose. This house is on fire for me lately, between this, the incredible Cristal bottlings and the Starck Blanc De Blanc. This easily bested the Billecart. Explodes from the glass with great fruit but plenty of tension and acid. Super bright, round and refreshing. Excellent.

#571 Post by **Blake Brown** » April 30th, 2019, 8:10 am

Steve Nordhoff wrote: ↑
April 30th, 2019, 7:07 am
Two rose half bottles for comparison

Billecart Salmon Rose - essentially no info on the bottle. Raspberry and dried cherry. These seems a bit drier than 10 years ago, which is fine with me. Very nice, solid and consistent.

Roederer 2012 Rose. This house is on fire for me lately, between this, the incredible Cristal bottlings and the Starck Blanc De Blanc. This easily bested the Billecart. Explodes from the glass with great fruit but plenty of tension and acid. Super bright, round and refreshing. Excellent.

I couldn't agree more Steve with your comment re Roederer. Have you tried the 12` Brut yet? it is equally as fine as the rose which is currently one of my favs over all other rose options.

#572 Post by **Steve Nordhoff** » April 30th, 2019, 11:34 am

Not yet, but I will look for it.

#573 Post by **Cole Kendall** » April 30th, 2019, 11:45 am

Merrill Lindquist wrote: ↑
April 25th, 2019, 8:04 pm
Pol Roger Brut Reserve. I like this for the money.

I just opened a bottle of this (the place I store my wine sells a lot of champagne and convinced me to try it) and it was really delicious.

#574 Post by **Merrill Lindquist** » April 30th, 2019, 2:19 pm

I had the 2012 Roederer Rose on Friday with some friends. It is stunning...tasting like a mature Champagne.

mattccheung · #575 Post by **mattccheung** » April 30th, 2019, 3:54 pm

Popped open Taitt by the pool.

#576 Post by **ky1em!ttskus** » May 2nd, 2019, 5:57 pm

NV Varnier Fanniere Grand Cru Brut

Really, really nice if not overly complex — with chicken lettuce wraps.

#577 Post by **Frank Murray III** » May 3rd, 2019, 5:40 pm

NV Pierre Gerbais Champagne Prestige Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut - France, Champagne (5/3/2019)
My final bottle of several bottles I bought. The importer sticker is covering the back label so I am screwed for any bottle info. From what I recall, this is 100% Chardonnay and should be dosed around 6 g/l. Similar to previous bottles with a green apple, pear, bitter citrus and the same kind of tonic water quality in the finish. The latter quality fades away with air and the wine fattens more, rounding out. I continue to enjoy the Gerbais wines and wish I could see them return to the LA/OC area again. It's been some time since they have been for sale.

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#578 Post by **Warren Taranow** » May 4th, 2019, 11:43 am

Frank Murray III wrote: ↑
May 3rd, 2019, 5:40 pm

NV Pierre Gerbais Champagne Prestige Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut - France, Champagne (5/3/2019)
My final bottle of several bottles I bought. The importer sticker is covering the back label so I am screwed for any bottle info. From what I recall, this is 100% Chardonnay and should be dosed around 6 g/l. Similar to previous bottles with a green apple, pear, bitter citrus and the same kind of tonic water quality in the finish. The latter quality fades away with air and the wine fattens more, rounding out. I continue to enjoy the Gerbais wines and wish I could see them return to the LA/OC area again. It's been some time since they have been for sale.
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I'm happy to see this. I have a few magnums pending from this producer (Extra Brut Grains de Celles Rose, Grains de Celles Extra Brut, and l’Audace Brut Nature). I was worried, because I was underwhelmed by their L'Osmose bottling. I went away from that bottle with the opinion I should avoid low dosage wines from them, several of which I had already ordered. Maybe they'll be better than I expected.

Cheers,
Warren

#579 Post by **Frank Murray III** » May 4th, 2019, 1:41 pm

Warren, if you're referring to the mags that Greg offered a few months back, I bought into that offer, too. Just a single mag.

I don't believe (for my palate) L'Osmose is the best wine that Aurelien Gerbais is making. However, the Grains de Celles bottlings should be solid and a great value for cleanly farmed, Aube-based bubbly. He does a nice job with those wines. FWIW, I did ping Greg a few weeks ago about tracking down some 750s of the Gerbais range. We'll have to see if anything comes through.

Sarah Kirschbaum · #580 Post by **Sarah Kirschbaum** » May 5th, 2019, 5:33 am

Ployez-Jacquemart NV rose last night before dinner on the deck was very enjoyable, with a nice citrus back to it and some spicy notes on the finish. Very nice, though it will likely not be a reload for us when the 4 I bought are gone. They will be a pleasure to drink.

Michael Klein · #581 Post by **Michael Klein** » May 5th, 2019, 6:58 am

Warren Taranow wrote: ↑
May 4th, 2019, 11:43 am

Frank Murray III wrote: ↑
May 3rd, 2019, 5:40 pm

NV Pierre Gerbais Champagne Prestige Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut - France, Champagne (5/3/2019)
My final bottle of several bottles I bought. The importer sticker is covering the back label so I am screwed for any bottle info. From what I recall, this is 100% Chardonnay and should be dosed around 6 g/l. Similar to previous bottles with a green apple, pear, bitter citrus and the same kind of tonic water quality in the finish. The latter quality fades away with air and the wine fattens more, rounding out. I continue to enjoy the Gerbais wines and wish I could see them return to the LA/OC area again. It's been some time since they have been for sale.
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I'm happy to see this. I have a few magnums pending from this producer (Extra Brut Grains de Celles Rose, Grains de Celles Extra Brut, and l’Audace Brut Nature). I was worried, because I was underwhelmed by their L'Osmose bottling. I went away from that bottle with the opinion I should avoid low dosage wines from them, several of which I had already ordered. Maybe they'll be better than I expected.

Cheers,
Warren

Big fan of this producer as well. I picked up a bottle of the Extra Brut Grains de Celles Rose in Reims and enjoyed with my wife in Paris a few months ago.

#582 Post by **Jayson Cohen** » May 5th, 2019, 7:40 am

Quick notes:

NV Lilbert (Extra) Brut BdB (50% 2015; 50% reserve) - creamy brioche; lilting and light.

2012 Philipponnat BdN - more depth / power here side-by-side with Lilbert. Shows the strong plummy fruit I find in BdN but integrated, and not quite the intensity or sheer thrill of something like an Eric Rodez BdN. Would gladly drink this regularly. Good at the table.

#583 Post by **Warren Taranow** » May 5th, 2019, 7:49 am

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 5:33 am
Ployez-Jacquemart NV rose last night before dinner on the deck was very enjoyable, with a nice citrus back to it and some spicy notes on the finish. Very nice, though it will likely not be a reload for us when the 4 I bought are gone. They will be a pleasure to drink.

Sarah,

This is one of my favorite NV rosé champagnes. Fresh, fruity and minerally, with an elegant bead. I'm hoping to try one with a little bottle age, but our consumption rate limits that likelihood.

Cheers,
Warren

#584 Post by **alan weinberg** » May 5th, 2019, 10:18 am

Warren Taranow wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 7:49 am

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 5:33 am
Ployez-Jacquemart NV rose last night before dinner on the deck was very enjoyable, with a nice citrus back to it and some spicy notes on the finish. Very nice, though it will likely not be a reload for us when the 4 I bought are gone. They will be a pleasure to drink.
Sarah,

This is one of my favorite NV rosé champagnes. Fresh, fruity and minerally, with an elegant bead. I'm hoping to try one with a little bottle age, but our consumption rate limits that likelihood.

Cheers,
Warren

I’m a fan, too, partly because we had a great visit there last year and loved the people and wines. It’s not B-S brut rosé level, but for the $, it’s a super rosé. Step up to their d’Harbonville for a grand marque experience.

#585 Post by **Warren Taranow** » May 5th, 2019, 10:36 am

I brought a magnum of 2006 Charles Heidsieck Champagne Brut Rosé to a charity event last night. My wife and others at the table liked it; I was underwhelmed. It might have been the water glasses used, or maybe my palate was off (CT and critical notes are mostly praiseful). I perceived an unpleasant bitterness.

Sarah Kirschbaum · #586 Post by **Sarah Kirschbaum** » May 5th, 2019, 12:53 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 10:18 am

Warren Taranow wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 7:49 am

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 5:33 am
Ployez-Jacquemart NV rose last night before dinner on the deck was very enjoyable, with a nice citrus back to it and some spicy notes on the finish. Very nice, though it will likely not be a reload for us when the 4 I bought are gone. They will be a pleasure to drink.
Sarah,

This is one of my favorite NV rosé champagnes. Fresh, fruity and minerally, with an elegant bead. I'm hoping to try one with a little bottle age, but our consumption rate limits that likelihood.

Cheers,
Warren
I’m a fan, too, partly because we had a great visit there last year and loved the people and wines. It’s not B-S brut rosé level, but for the $, it’s a super rosé. Step up to their d’Harbonville for a grand marque experience.

I would choose it over the Billecart-Salmon rose, which I find good enough, but not interesting or delicious enough to justify its price. The Ployez-Jacquemart was definitely priced nicely for the quality, and fun to drink, if not really exciting for me.

#587 Post by **NoahR** » May 5th, 2019, 12:57 pm

Has anyone actually tried the Ployez-Jacquemart Liesse d’Harbonville?

#588 Post by **alan weinberg** » May 5th, 2019, 1:15 pm

NoahR wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 12:57 pm
Has anyone actually tried the Ployez-Jacquemart Liesse d’Harbonville?

2 bottles made me find more. 2000 vintage. No notes but loved it. As for B-S rosé, I age it 5 years and then drink. Gains a lot.

R@y.Tupp@+sch · #589 Post by **R@y.Tupp@+sch** » May 5th, 2019, 1:58 pm

NoahR wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 12:57 pm
Has anyone actually tried the Ployez-Jacquemart Liesse d’Harbonville?

Haven't had the '00, but have had the '90, '95, '96, '98 and '99.
The '96 is my favorite of the vintages I've had, but I've only had them two or three times each.

#590 Post by **alan weinberg** » May 5th, 2019, 2:11 pm

Ray—where do you think it ranks in the pantheon of Dom, Salon, Krug, Goisses, Cristal?

R@y.Tupp@+sch · #591 Post by **R@y.Tupp@+sch** » May 5th, 2019, 2:17 pm

Alan,

I may not be being fair since I've only had five vintages a total of 16-18 times, and I find this cuvee to be excellent but I don't think it reaches the highs of the better vintages of the ones you listed.

As an aside and as you mentioned earlier, it is a great visit.

Sarah Kirschbaum · #592 Post by **Sarah Kirschbaum** » May 5th, 2019, 2:24 pm

The other night at the house with friends:

2002 Pommery Cuvée Louise Brut - has gained some depth in the year (to the day) since I last pulled a bottle, and is showing nicely. Light and bright is still the story, but there is some more complexity and rounder finish now. A very good starter champagne for drinking as guests arrive and before things get going, doesn't ask much of you and that's just fine.

2004 Dom Perignon - this too has benefited from the year+ since I last had it. On this night it showed smokey citrus and had a joyous feel in the mouth. Really a pleasure to drink, if not all that serious.

NV Egly-Ouriet rosé - always beautiful, and a fitting closer to the night after most guests had gone home. It had the stuffing and interest to be delicious even after a night of lots of wine and some eau de vie. Very much my style, puts me in my happy place.

mattccheung · #593 Post by **mattccheung** » May 6th, 2019, 9:46 pm

JL Vergnon NV, disoraged 2017

EHeffner · #594 Post by **EHeffner** » May 7th, 2019, 5:27 am

The Ployez-Jacquemart rose referred to a few times in this thread. Would that be the extra Brut or the selection rose?

Sarah Kirschbaum · #595 Post by **Sarah Kirschbaum** » May 7th, 2019, 6:13 am

EHeffner wrote: ↑
May 7th, 2019, 5:27 am
The Ployez-Jacquemart rose referred to a few times in this thread. Would that be the extra Brut or the selection rose?

Mine was the extra brut.

#596 Post by **Warren Taranow** » May 7th, 2019, 12:25 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑
May 7th, 2019, 6:13 am

EHeffner wrote: ↑
May 7th, 2019, 5:27 am
The Ployez-Jacquemart rose referred to a few times in this thread. Would that be the extra Brut or the selection rose?
Mine was the extra brut.

Mine as well.

EHeffner · #597 Post by **EHeffner** » May 7th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Warren Taranow wrote: ↑
May 7th, 2019, 12:25 pm

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑
May 7th, 2019, 6:13 am

EHeffner wrote: ↑
May 7th, 2019, 5:27 am
The Ployez-Jacquemart rose referred to a few times in this thread. Would that be the extra Brut or the selection rose?
Mine was the extra brut.
Mine as well.

Well that answers that. I sometimes get overwhelmed with all the different wines on wine searcher or CT

#598 Post by **Jim Stewart** » May 7th, 2019, 12:41 pm

EHeffner wrote: ↑
May 7th, 2019, 5:27 am
The Ployez-Jacquemart rose referred to a few times in this thread. Would that be the extra Brut or the selection rose?

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Recommended to me by others here, I highly recommend it to you!

Michael Klein · #599 Post by **Michael Klein** » May 7th, 2019, 7:47 pm

Regarding Ployez-Jacquemart , I also recently tried their special club after purchasing it at the Tresors tasting room in Reims. I found it to be quite good and at the price point, also hard to beat!

EHeffner · #600 Post by **EHeffner** » May 8th, 2019, 4:41 am

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 1:15 pm

NoahR wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2019, 12:57 pm
Has anyone actually tried the Ployez-Jacquemart Liesse d’Harbonville?
2 bottles made me find more. 2000 vintage. No notes but loved it. As for B-S rosé, I age it 5 years and then drink. Gains a lot.

How do you age your B-S? 5 years from purchase? As far as I’m aware, they don’t offer disgorgement info