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Re: APL Los Angeles

#51 Post by Marshall Gelb » February 7th, 2019, 1:09 pm

7:30 works for me.....I will probably LYFT up from the South Bay. Wine thoughts?

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Re: APL Los Angeles

#52 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 7th, 2019, 1:25 pm

Something bad ass, aged and red

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#53 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 9th, 2019, 1:39 pm

Thoughts on bottles?

I’ve got the 77 weinert and 88 veuve...also have an 85 ZH Goldert (from 375) that despite being white wine may be fun to open as haven’t had any from that far back.

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Re: APL Los Angeles

#54 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 13th, 2019, 4:48 pm

Will be going to the restaurant this Friday to make sure custom cuts are done, as needed. Was thinking 3” each of the 1+ year NY strip, 200+ day New York strip and 150+ day ribeye. May adjust thickness based on what looks best. The short aged stuff (hanger) can just be day-of. Thoughts greatly appreciated.

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#55 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 14th, 2019, 8:50 pm

I'm certainly no beef expert. I know enough to sound like I know something to those who don't. But these extended aging cuts are not something I'm familiar with. It will be an exploration for me.

On wines, I'm looking at various options. Best ones might be from 1999 which is probably barely "old" for something like this. The older wines would be more adventurous.
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#56 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 15th, 2019, 7:29 am

I’ll try and post some pics of the meat later today.

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#57 Post by M.Kaplan » February 15th, 2019, 10:06 am

I'm going to bring some older Bordeaux and an old Cali Cab or two. We can decide which among them to drink on Thurs.
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#58 Post by c fu » February 18th, 2019, 10:42 am

Looking forward to this!
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#59 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 20th, 2019, 5:40 pm

Ready for tomorrow
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#60 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 20th, 2019, 6:31 pm

2 x 2 1/4” porterhouse / t-bones (220+ days)
2 x 2 1/4” rib eyes (150+ days)
3 x 1 1/4” rib eyes (around 35 days)
1 x 1” ny strip (400+ days)

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#61 Post by Brian Bohr » February 20th, 2019, 6:37 pm

Very excited for tomorrow - going to bring a few CA cabs from the 70s
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#62 Post by M.Kaplan » February 20th, 2019, 6:41 pm

After tomorrow I may have to change my Uber photo from the pic taken at the Umamicatessen steak dinner that you put together in (hard to believe it was 6+ years ago) in 2012.
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#63 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 20th, 2019, 7:06 pm

Kaplan. That was an epic dinner. None of the wines really crushed it though except for the Madeira. I think my WOTN was the Harlan but didn’t come across as special at all.

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#64 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 20th, 2019, 7:20 pm

How is the stemware situation at APL? Should I bring a couple or just my bottles?
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#65 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 20th, 2019, 7:34 pm

Was thinking we course the meal by meat age:

1) short age rib eyes (30+ day)
2) long age rib eyes (150+ day)
3) porterhouse / t-bones (220+ day)
4) birthday NY (400+ day) + short rib (this will be a very small amount for each at table really more of a wind-down than a full course)

Perhaps add a side or two for table to each course...will be interesting for pairing as have no idea which wines will Be better with which cuts...

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#66 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 20th, 2019, 7:35 pm

I think stemware is fine. Not crazy but good.

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#67 Post by c fu » February 20th, 2019, 9:29 pm

Any chance when we get there they can show us the raw steaks and give us some detail on them? as delicious as it sounds it's also very educational!
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#68 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 20th, 2019, 9:40 pm

Should not be a problem.

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#69 Post by M.Kaplan » February 21st, 2019, 9:17 am

I'm out for tonight. Bad migraine. Let me know what I owe.
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#70 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 21st, 2019, 12:11 pm

Hope you feel better!

Opening up one spot (from Kaplan) if someone wants to grab it!?!?

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#71 Post by Todd F r e n c h » February 21st, 2019, 12:15 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:11 pm
Hope you feel better!

Opening up one spot (from Kaplan) if someone wants to grab it!?!?
I might take his place...checking with the boss and such
Apparently I'm lazy, have a narrow agenda, and offer little in the way of content and substance (RMP) (and have a "penchant for gossip" -KBI)

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#72 Post by Todd F r e n c h » February 21st, 2019, 12:20 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:15 pm
saul_cooperstein wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:11 pm
Hope you feel better!

Opening up one spot (from Kaplan) if someone wants to grab it!?!?
I might take his place...checking with the boss and such
I'm in. Gotta figure out something in that wine theme, too...'badass old red' or whatever
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#73 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 21st, 2019, 12:31 pm

Awesome Todd see you tonight

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#74 Post by Todd F r e n c h » February 21st, 2019, 12:32 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:31 pm
Awesome Todd see you tonight
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#75 Post by saul_cooperstein » February 21st, 2019, 12:41 pm

Details:

Theme: aged beef plus badass aged red wine

APL Restaurant
1680 Vine Street
Los Angeles
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Reservation under Saul Cooperstein
Credit card ok (I’ll be bringing cash just to make it easier but shouldn’t be an issue)

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#76 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 21st, 2019, 3:50 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:20 pm
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:15 pm
saul_cooperstein wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:11 pm
Hope you feel better!

Opening up one spot (from Kaplan) if someone wants to grab it!?!?
I might take his place...checking with the boss and such
I'm in. Gotta figure out something in that wine theme, too...'badass old red' or whatever
Isn't everything you touch badass?
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#77 Post by Marshall Gelb » February 21st, 2019, 4:12 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 9:17 am
I'm out for tonight. Bad migraine. Let me know what I owe.
Feel better Mark.

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#78 Post by Adam G » February 21st, 2019, 7:34 pm

Enjoy all! Put me down for the next one :)
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#79 Post by Todd F r e n c h » February 22nd, 2019, 8:24 am

Wow, Saul - nice work! That restaurant was incredible - the meat locker is insane. Amazingly, we didn't have a bad wine in the bunch (other than the reconditioned Conterno, which I feel is not authentic as an old wine anyway so it doesn't count), and considering the youngest was 1999 (by a long shot) that's pretty incredible. I jotted down short notes on my iPhone, so I'll go TomHill a bit here:

‘58 Conterno - amazing, still changing, meaty - structured after all these years, complex and interesting
‘64 Conterno (reconditioned) meh - madeirized yet some fresh fruit - odd
‘71 Torres - superfine dusty tannins, nice acidic backbone, milk chocolate & coffee nose, sweet red fruit, great, short finish
‘78 Gruaud Larose - Raw red meat, beautiful color, cassis, great space now, slight astringency
‘71 Sterling - slightly ripe-fruited/pruney, brilliant acidity and mouthfeel
‘73 Sterling - surprising nose - blue fruited? Bright nose, some mint, gorgeous color, bright and lively, wow, still tannic and structured
‘77 Mayacamas - ever so slightly corked, beautiful mouthfeel, fruit intact, finish short
‘82 Ducru - milk chocolate nose, red and black fruit - super complex nose, still fresh and young - tannic and structured, fantastic, slightly soft
‘90 Lagrange - classic dirty Bdx nose, rustic - more than any other wine - graphite, dark, rich soil,
‘77 Weinert - color looks almost new, peppermint patty nose (never wrote this as a note before), bright, fresh nose, beautiful mouthfeel, perfectly weighted, salty, falls apart quickly in the bottle/glass, though. Super interesting
‘99 Phelps Backus - so young, so fresh, almost too young in this group, after 2 hours, wow - huge nose, a little green/vegetal but also bright fruited and sparkly, lively palate, richer and opulent

Brian Bohr took some great photos (posted on Facebook) but here's one:

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#80 Post by Mark Thompson » February 22nd, 2019, 1:00 pm

Funny—I opened a ‘78 GL last night as well. Just the expected amount of brett, and not the band-aid variety that is more of a negative in my book. I wouldn’t wait though—and I like ‘em old.

My first experience with Phelps Backus was the ‘99 maybe a year ago. At least slightly better than the ‘99 Insignia examples I’ve had. It got me to buy a few cases of various vintages. I had the 2000 a couple weeks ago that was one step behind, but still fabulous for the vintage. The ‘99 could go at least another decade, but I’d drink ‘00 reasonably soon.
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#81 Post by Brian Bohr » February 22nd, 2019, 1:44 pm

Saul - thanks for organizing such an enjoyable evening. The tour of the meat locker was great. I don’t think many of us had tasted beef aged more than about 60 days before, and we were pleasantly surprised. We also had good luck with the old wines. Nice notes Todd.
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#82 Post by Marshall Gelb » February 23rd, 2019, 9:48 am

Echo! Awesome arranging job by Saul..we were treated like kings! The whole experience was top notch. The wines showed very well, nice summary from Todd, and the meat was a revelation. I had no idea what to expect from such extensively aged meat but I, and most of the other attendees, was very pleasantly surprised.

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#83 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 27th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Thanks so much for planning this Saul. An all around terrific evening. Loved the tour down stairs. Great lineup of oldies. As others were I found I liked most of the meat much more than I expected. And onion dip on maitakes is flirtysmile.
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