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#1 Post by Chris T. » April 5th, 2018, 5:53 pm

Having a client dinner at EMP this Monday night. Don’t want to do the tasting (I don’t think they are the best value). Instead looking to get 2-3 bottles with a all in budget of around $1200.

Would love to hear what you guys would choose.

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#2 Post by RyanC » April 5th, 2018, 6:04 pm

Mag of ‘15 Juge for $340 and BYO the rest.
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#3 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » April 5th, 2018, 6:08 pm

RyanC wrote:Mag of ‘15 Juge for $340 and BYO the rest.
LOL, exactly what I spotted as my top choice. All day long.

Some nice Bretons and Raffault. Gonon.

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#4 Post by Victor Hong » April 5th, 2018, 6:15 pm

Chris T. wrote:Having a client dinner at EMP this Monday night. Don’t want to do the tasting (I don’t think they are the best value). Instead looking to get 2-3 bottles with a all in budget of around $1200.

Would love to hear what you guys would choose.

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BYO.
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#5 Post by Howard Cooper » April 5th, 2018, 6:20 pm

2014 white Chassagne Montrachet premier cru from PYCM or Bernard Moreau. Premier cru red Burgundy from Fourier, Hudelot-Noellat or Mugneret-Gibourg.
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#6 Post by Chris T. » April 5th, 2018, 6:21 pm

RyanC wrote:Mag of ‘15 Juge for $340 and BYO the rest.
What’s the corkage fee?
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#7 Post by Victor Hong » April 5th, 2018, 6:23 pm

$50
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#8 Post by George Hejna » April 5th, 2018, 6:37 pm

Victor Hong wrote:
Chris T. wrote:Having a client dinner at EMP this Monday night. Don’t want to do the tasting (I don’t think they are the best value). Instead looking to get 2-3 bottles with a all in budget of around $1200.

Would love to hear what you guys would choose.

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BYO.
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#9 Post by Victor Hong » April 5th, 2018, 6:43 pm

You are worse at asking.
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#10 Post by Kirk.Grant » April 5th, 2018, 7:07 pm

Bubbles
Cédric Bouchard, Roses de Jeanne, Val Vilaine (4.14) $230

White
Château Musar, Bekaa Valley 2006 $160
Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey, Créots 2014 $140
Dr. Bürklin-Wolf, Forster Pechstein, Grosses Gewächs 2009 $230
Keller, Morstein, Grosses Gewächs 2014 $325
Didier Dagueneau, Pur Sang 2004 $470

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Thierry Richoux, Veaupessiot 2010 $95 (THIS IS A STEAL)
Olga Raffault, Les Picasses 1985 $205
Marcarini, Brunate 1990 $350
The Eyrie Vineyards, Reserve 1985 $640
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#11 Post by c fu » April 5th, 2018, 7:30 pm

09 Gonon VV 405
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#12 Post by Robert M yers » April 5th, 2018, 7:36 pm

1/2 bottles of Krug for $125 all day
2016 Huet $105
Foillard Côte du. Py 2014 $100
Alt to Juge:
Benetiere Dolium $480 or 09 Gonon VV

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#13 Post by Alan Rath » April 5th, 2018, 8:11 pm

All depends on what you and your clients like to drink, but a few that interest me:

2013 Alzinger Loibenberg Smaragd 155 (fabulous try Riesling)
2013 Georges Vernay Coteau de Vernon 420
2014 Vincent Dauvissat Preuses 425
2014 Domaine Roulot Tillets 300

2008 Domaine Mugneret-Gibourg Chaignots 370
2001 Domaine des Comtes Lafon Santenots du Milieu 380
2013 Domaine de la Pousse d'Or Clos des 60 Ouvrées 305
2009 Pierre Gonon Vieilles Vignes 405 (unicorn, excellent price on a *** wine list)

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#14 Post by Clayton Wai-Poi » April 5th, 2018, 8:55 pm

Either or both of the Pelizzatti Valtelina 1969. Those would be rare as hens teeth making he tarrif quite OK

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#15 Post by Karl K » April 5th, 2018, 10:05 pm

Is EMP service included? I’m thinking I read they switched to that. Also total tax?

Point is if the 1200 includes the taxxsnd grat - ?
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#16 Post by Rob M » April 6th, 2018, 4:56 am

Karl K wrote:Is EMP service included? I’m thinking I read they switched to that. Also total tax?

Point is if the 1200 includes the taxxsnd grat - ?
Includes service but not tax.
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#17 Post by p@ulbortin » April 6th, 2018, 6:47 am

Champagne: 2012 Bouchard Ursules $315
White: Yves Collin Morey St Aubin (any) $175
Red: 2015 Mugneret Gibourg Vosne Romanee $250

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#18 Post by P. Willenberg » April 6th, 2018, 9:42 am

This isn't what the OP had in mind but perhaps someone else is reading this thread and looking not to break their budget. In that case, there are some reasonably priced Riesling hiding in there for treasure seekers. For example, this is from a reliable producer in a high acid vintage. Should be great.

Alfred Merkelbach, Kinheimer Rosenberg, Spätlese 2010 $60
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#19 Post by R M Kriete » April 6th, 2018, 9:54 am

Did the Reserve Wine pairing 2 weeks ago....well worth the tariff and paired impeccably with the courses!

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#20 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » April 6th, 2018, 9:55 am

Chris T. wrote: What’s the corkage fee?
Victor Hong wrote:$50
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I'm guessing it's been a while since you've been to EMP. Corkage has been $75/bottle for a while.
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#21 Post by Howard Cooper » April 6th, 2018, 12:37 pm

P. Willenberg wrote:This isn't what the OP had in mind but perhaps someone else is reading this thread and looking not to break their budget. In that case, there are some reasonably priced Riesling hiding in there for treasure seekers. For example, this is from a reliable producer in a high acid vintage. Should be great.

Alfred Merkelbach, Kinheimer Rosenberg, Spätlese 2010 $60
If I was dining there myself, I would find this Merkelbach pretty interesting. With clients, not so sure. Lots of people don't like German wines, or at least think they don't like German wines. Even many German wine lovers would not want a Spatlese because the cool kids drink dry German wines.
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#22 Post by P. Willenberg » April 6th, 2018, 1:48 pm

that's exactly why I posted it Howard. Someone of us wants that wine.
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#23 Post by W. Leonard » April 6th, 2018, 2:01 pm

Pierre Péters Les Chétillons, Cuvée Spéciale 2008 is delicious!
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#24 Post by Brennan Anderson » April 6th, 2018, 2:31 pm

W. Leonard wrote:Pierre Péters Les Chétillons, Cuvée Spéciale 2008 is delicious!
I've done Eleven Madison a couple times with only Champagne...great experiences.
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#25 Post by Chris Seiber » April 6th, 2018, 2:43 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:
P. Willenberg wrote:This isn't what the OP had in mind but perhaps someone else is reading this thread and looking not to break their budget. In that case, there are some reasonably priced Riesling hiding in there for treasure seekers. For example, this is from a reliable producer in a high acid vintage. Should be great.

Alfred Merkelbach, Kinheimer Rosenberg, Spätlese 2010 $60
If I was dining there myself, I would find this Merkelbach pretty interesting. With clients, not so sure. Lots of people don't like German wines, or at least think they don't like German wines. Even many German wine lovers would not want a Spatlese because the cool kids drink dry German wines.
Plus, many non geeks feel uncomfortable admitting they like white wines with sweetness to them (even though they may actually like them), because they think it’s considered unsophisticated to like sweet white wines, or they associate sweet white wine with cheap crap wines.

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#26 Post by Jorge Henriquez » April 6th, 2018, 2:50 pm

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
Chris T. wrote: What’s the corkage fee?
Victor Hong wrote:$50
Victor,

I'm guessing it's been a while since you've been to EMP. Corkage has been $75/bottle for a while.
It was "Ten Madison Park" last time he went.
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#27 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » April 6th, 2018, 6:30 pm

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
Chris T. wrote: What’s the corkage fee?
Victor Hong wrote:$50
Victor,

I'm guessing it's been a while since you've been to EMP. Corkage has been $75/bottle for a while.
It was "Ten Madison Park" last time he went.
Actually "Nine Madison Park" because corkage was $65 for over a year before it was upped to $75.
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#28 Post by Mark Y » April 6th, 2018, 7:03 pm

The juge is great Vs retail but I don’t think it matches the food well except maybe one out of 10-12 courses.
Bubbly works for several courses.
Sautérne for the foie Gras (a bit) and rest for dessert.
Then a burg for the heartier dishes.

A young baby Syrah is a lot for that menu.
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#29 Post by Stan Y. » April 7th, 2018, 6:00 am

Now I know where half the Roulot in NYC goes :-). With the number of cool things on the list under $100 I'd have a hard time doing BYO or ordering trophies, e.g. Puffeney Trousseau Berangers 90 bucks, Karthauserhof Kabinett 65, a number of things that other folks pointed out like Foillard. Heck I had no idea that Michel Lafarge made an aligote, etc.
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#30 Post by Russell Faulkner » April 7th, 2018, 6:26 am

Keller. Probably.

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#31 Post by M.Kaplan » April 7th, 2018, 8:04 am

For EMP cooking, I’d go:
Champagne
White Burg or Trocken/GG Riesling
Red Burg

I loathe drinking sweet wines followed by dry wines; a palate killer for sure.

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#32 Post by Nathaniel Reichek » April 7th, 2018, 3:45 pm

A staggering list. I'm very fond of Eleven Madison Park but many of these wines are far too young to be at peak and a lot of the markups are astronomical.

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#33 Post by Vinod S. » April 8th, 2018, 1:50 am

It depends on if your optimizing for taste (e.g. is this wine in a good window or peak) or value for the people your dining with.

If the former, I would recommend:
-Bouchard Champagne based on either 08 or 12 base vintage
-Keller 2011 GG are currently in a good window
-Chevillon from 2005, 2002, or 1996, really enjoyed the 2005 Perrières recently though still young
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#34 Post by Benjamin Goldberg » April 10th, 2018, 2:43 pm

The one time I went to EMP I took advantage of the corkage, and I highly recommend doing so. The wine service with my bottles ('04 Taittinger Comtes, '89 Pichon Lalande, '85 Haut Brion) was really excellent. You can imagine what ordering wines of that caliber off the list would have cost.

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