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#1 Post by Robert Dentice » January 12th, 2017, 3:42 pm

Tickets are on sale! Seminars are back again. Stephen has reduced the size of the Grand Tasting so it will be less crowded!

Needless to say I will be at all events and some other unofficial Rieslingfeier events!


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This really is the best wine event of the year for anyone who loves Riesling.

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#2 Post by Charlie Carnes » January 12th, 2017, 6:02 pm

Coolest event ever! I am sorry I will not make it this year... Have a blast. The "Giants 2005 and 2015" hosted by Stephan Bitterolf looks super cool.
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#3 Post by Peter Kleban » January 12th, 2017, 6:07 pm

Robert, there are 4 Saturday tastings, a VIP one at 10:30 (already sold out, it seems) and ones at 11:30, 1:00, and 2:00. Any suggestions on which one is best? TIA!
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#4 Post by Kirk.Grant » January 12th, 2017, 6:11 pm

This is awesome...I might just have to plan to attend this next year.
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#5 Post by Joseph MR » January 12th, 2017, 6:33 pm

Peter, if you are also going to the gala dinner, an earlier Grand Tasting is probably better than a later one. ;)

I happened to check the website yesterday out of curiosity and the tickets were available then, so I purchased mine.
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#6 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 12th, 2017, 6:35 pm

Damn. For the third year in a row I will be out of the country.
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#7 Post by Peter Kleban » January 12th, 2017, 6:38 pm

Joseph MR wrote:Peter, if you are also going to the gala dinner, an earlier Grand Tasting is probably better than a later one. ;)

I happened to check the website yesterday out of curiosity and the tickets were available then, so I purchased mine.
No I'd just go to the tasting. Do they tend to run out of wine/interest later in the day? (I vaguely remember reading something like that, but maybe it was la Paulée not Rieslingfeier)
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#8 Post by Peter Kleban » January 12th, 2017, 6:39 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:Damn. For the third year in a row I will be out of the country.
Pity. Would've been a good chance to say hello.
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#9 Post by Joseph MR » January 12th, 2017, 6:48 pm

Peter Kleban wrote:
Joseph MR wrote:Peter, if you are also going to the gala dinner, an earlier Grand Tasting is probably better than a later one. ;)

I happened to check the website yesterday out of curiosity and the tickets were available then, so I purchased mine.
No I'd just go to the tasting. Do they tend to run out of wine/interest later in the day? (I vaguely remember reading something like that, but maybe it was la Paulée not Rieslingfeier)
I can't answer your question about the Tasting, but the last time I attended, the Friday seminars were also very worthwhile.
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#10 Post by Robert Dentice » January 13th, 2017, 6:02 am

Joseph MR wrote:
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Joseph MR wrote:Peter, if you are also going to the gala dinner, an earlier Grand Tasting is probably better than a later one. ;)

I happened to check the website yesterday out of curiosity and the tickets were available then, so I purchased mine.
No I'd just go to the tasting. Do they tend to run out of wine/interest later in the day? (I vaguely remember reading something like that, but maybe it was la Paulée not Rieslingfeier)
I can't answer your question about the Tasting, but the last time I attended, the Friday seminars were also very worthwhile.

I do not ever recall them running out of wine. That said I would probably go to the earlier tastings. As I mentioned they have cut back on the numbers this year and asked people to respect their time slots.

I agree the seminars are excellent and well worth it.

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#11 Post by Robert Dentice » January 13th, 2017, 6:04 am

Joseph MR wrote:Peter, if you are also going to the gala dinner, an earlier Grand Tasting is probably better than a later one. ;)

I happened to check the website yesterday out of curiosity and the tickets were available then, so I purchased mine.

Joseph - I am putting together a BYOB dinner in Chinatown for the winemakers on the Friday night, if you have any interest PM me your address.
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#12 Post by Michael Lewis » January 13th, 2017, 6:16 am

Man, I have a work trip elsewhere during Rieslingfeier this this year. I haven't been to one since the very first one several years ago. Perhaps next year.
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#13 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » January 13th, 2017, 6:32 am

Argh - also out of the country. Again!

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#14 Post by Joseph MR » January 13th, 2017, 7:24 am

Joseph - I am putting together a BYOB dinner in Chinatown for the winemakers on the Friday night, if you have any interest PM me your address.[/quote]

Robert- PM sent, thanks.
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#15 Post by Ross Massey » January 14th, 2017, 3:07 am

One of my favorite wine events all year. And this time there will be some great winemakers from Austria as well! (Franz Hirtzberger and Leo Alzinger)
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#16 Post by Erich Sachse » January 14th, 2017, 11:59 pm

Very excited for my first Rieslingfeier! I will be at the dinner and the early session of the tasting -- possibly some of the seminars on Friday as well.

In prior years either I have been blocked or it has sold out too quickly -- glad to have it work out this year!

Now what to bring? Going to have to dig deep in the cellar for this one!

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#17 Post by Martin E. Pezdek » January 15th, 2017, 9:08 am

Thanks for the heads up. I missed it last year, looks like I can make it this year.
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#18 Post by Robert Dentice » January 28th, 2017, 10:17 am

Just a reminder on the BYOB Welcome event at Canton Lounge on Friday. I think I have emailed everyone on the thread who has expressed interest. PM if you are interested we have room.

As far as Rieslingfeier some tickets remain but it is close to selling out.

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#19 Post by Robert Panzer » January 28th, 2017, 10:42 am

Rob,
Once again, looks like an incredible event! Kudos to your passion for and promotion of the glory of Riesling.
I will be out west, but will be looking forward to impressions and notes in the after math!
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#20 Post by Peter Kleban » February 13th, 2017, 11:36 am

I'll be at the 11:30 tasting. Guess Rob will also, anyone else? Have to wear the WB lapel pin!
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#21 Post by M. Chacchia » February 13th, 2017, 3:53 pm

I went last year for the first time. Plenty of dry Rieslings to sample. My first real tasting with mostly dry wines. Many were stellar. Hoping to make it again this year.
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#22 Post by John W Osgood » February 13th, 2017, 6:13 pm

Looking forward to the Saturday tasting at Craft!
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#23 Post by Benjamin C » February 13th, 2017, 9:24 pm

Will be there this Saturday at 11:30 too! Amazing wines last year, I'm sure this year would top that!
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#24 Post by David Allen » February 14th, 2017, 4:39 am

I'll be there at the 10:30 session handing off my black coffee for a stem.
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#25 Post by Robert Dentice » February 14th, 2017, 6:25 am

I will be there for every seminar on Friday, the BYOB, the Grand Tasting and the Gala!

I just posted on the first Rieslingfeier related event here:

http://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/vie ... 1&t=137879

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#26 Post by Erich Sachse » February 14th, 2017, 9:04 pm

I'll be at two of the seminars on Friday afternoon, and then back up for the Grand Tasting (got both 10:30 and 11:30 so I have time) and the dinner (Donnhoff table).

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#27 Post by David_T » February 15th, 2017, 12:50 pm

I just got into the city for the weekend. Those poor folks headed to Falltacular have no idea what they're missing [stirthepothal.gif]. I'll be at all of the seminars, the 10:30 tasting and sitting with Johannes Selbach for the gala dinner.
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#28 Post by A.Altman » February 21st, 2017, 9:54 am

Any updates/highlights?
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#29 Post by Howard Cooper » February 21st, 2017, 10:03 am

A.Altman wrote:Any updates/highlights?
I must admit I was a bit disappointed in the wines at the grand tasting. The highlight was getting to talk to a number of wine producers, who were quite friendly and engaging and to get to see and talk with David Schildknecht (I used to buy a lot of wine from David when he was in retail in DC and it is always nice to catch up with him when I get to see him). There were certainly good wines there (esp. at Selbach, Schloss Lieser and Donnhoff), but too many wines seemed more designed to make "political" statements than to be drunk. In fact, my favorite dry wines were from a non-German producer - Hirtzberger. And, best wines from at least two producers known for their dry wines (Fricke and Hofgut Falkenstein) were wines with some residual sugar - and these were quite good.

By far the biggest disappointment was going to a table labeled Egon Muller and finding a wine from Australia, one from the Slovak Republic and then a regional Kabinett.
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#30 Post by A.Altman » February 21st, 2017, 10:15 am

Interesting. What do you mean when you say "too many wines seemed more designed to make "political" statements than to be drunk"?
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#31 Post by Howard Cooper » February 21st, 2017, 10:38 am

A.Altman wrote:Interesting. What do you mean when you say "too many wines seemed more designed to make "political" statements than to be drunk"?
They needed a bit of residual sugar.
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#32 Post by Greg Xu » February 21st, 2017, 10:46 am

I liked the Muller Australian, packed with petrol and salinity, pleasantly surprising. I also liked the Leitz and Vollenweider wines very much.

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#33 Post by Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡ » February 21st, 2017, 10:52 am

The Hirtzbergers were incredible.

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#34 Post by bob parsons alberta » February 21st, 2017, 10:54 am

Greg Xu wrote:I liked the Muller Australian, packed with petrol and salinity, pleasantly surprising. I also liked the Leitz and Vollenweider wines very much.
I would certainly have looked out for Leitz..and Lieser!

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#35 Post by c fu » February 21st, 2017, 11:06 am

bob parsons alberta wrote:
Greg Xu wrote:I liked the Muller Australian, packed with petrol and salinity, pleasantly surprising. I also liked the Leitz and Vollenweider wines very much.
I would certainly have looked out for Leitz..and Lieser!

On CT, acyso rates 2015 Lieser very highly, does anyone know who this is?
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#36 Post by bob parsons alberta » February 21st, 2017, 11:11 am

Really..small world eh. Thanks!

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#37 Post by A. So » February 21st, 2017, 11:12 am

bob parsons alberta wrote:
Greg Xu wrote:I liked the Muller Australian, packed with petrol and salinity, pleasantly surprising. I also liked the Leitz and Vollenweider wines very much.
I would certainly have looked out for Leitz..and Lieser!

On CT, acyso rates 2015 Lieser very highly, does anyone know who this is?
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#38 Post by DanielP » February 21st, 2017, 12:16 pm

I thought the Leitz's GG lineup was quite good. Donnhoff's 15 Hermannshohle Spat was quite tasty. It was my first time tasting Von Winning's GG wines, and honestly, they blew me away. Its possible that's because because of the large tasting setting that makes them stand out with their sheer size, but I thought them to be massive, but balanced, outstanding wines. I think some people have mentioned they find their wines overoaked, but I didn't get personally feel that way. The only disappointment was finding out their prices.

Biggest disappointments for me were JB Becker and Muller. Muller, simply because I didn't really get to taste any of the Muller lineup, instead just the Slovakian/Australia/QbA wines which were rather unspectacular. Becker was pouring a couple 14s, which I found pretty unpleasurable.
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#39 Post by Jay Miller » February 21st, 2017, 12:30 pm

A. So wrote:
bob parsons alberta wrote:
Greg Xu wrote:I liked the Muller Australian, packed with petrol and salinity, pleasantly surprising. I also liked the Leitz and Vollenweider wines very much.
I would certainly have looked out for Leitz..and Lieser!

On CT, acyso rates 2015 Lieser very highly, does anyone know who this is?
You called? I missed Rieslingfeier for the first time this year because of a trip to none other than the Mosel. We tasted most of the 15 Schloß Lieser lineup with Lara Haag (Thomas's daughter). They were incredible wines. A bit on the fleshy side, but good cut and acidity all the same.
A 2015 Schloss Lieser Niederberg Spatlese on Sunday which was an entirely satisfying wine.

Speaking of acyso, I brought a 2014 Clos Roche Blanche Pif to an event with non-wine geeks and at one point a friend looked up from his notebook computer and asked "are you a member of the NY-hipster-unicorn crowd"? My response was - "Yes. You're reading Adrian's review on Cellartracker, aren't you?"
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#40 Post by A. So » February 21st, 2017, 12:35 pm

Jay Miller wrote: Speaking of acyso, I brought a 2014 Clos Roche Blanche Pif to an event with non-wine geeks and at one point a friend looked up from his notebook computer and asked "are you a member of the NY-hipster-unicorn crowd"? My response was - "Yes. You're reading Adrian's review on Cellartracker, aren't you?"
It's actually quite a good wine. ;)
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#41 Post by Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡ » February 21st, 2017, 12:52 pm

DanielPaik wrote:...
Biggest disappointments for me were JB Becker and Muller. Muller, simply because I didn't really get to taste any of the Muller lineup, instead just the Slovenian/Australia/QbA wines which were rather unspectacular. Becker was pouring a couple 14s, which I found pretty unpleasurable.
To be fair, at the VIP they were pouring a bottle of '11 Scharzhofberger Auslese.

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#42 Post by mattcitrang » February 21st, 2017, 1:18 pm

The VIP was definitely worth the tariff.

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#43 Post by Kevin Sidders » February 21st, 2017, 2:35 pm

Sounds like a great time -- I'll need to plan to attend next year (and step up for the VIP, it sounds like)...
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#44 Post by John Morris » February 21st, 2017, 2:38 pm

Howard Cooper wrote: I must admit I was a bit disappointed in the wines at the grand tasting. The highlight was getting to talk to a number of wine producers, who were quite friendly and engaging and to get to see and talk with David Schildknecht (I used to buy a lot of wine from David when he was in retail in DC and it is always nice to catch up with him when I get to see him). There were certainly good wines there (esp. at Selbach, Schloss Lieser and Donnhoff), but too many wines seemed more designed to make "political" statements than to be drunk. In fact, my favorite dry wines were from a non-German producer - Hirtzberger. And, best wines from at least two producers known for their dry wines (Fricke and Hofgut Falkenstein) were wines with some residual sugar - and these were quite good.

By far the biggest disappointment was going to a table labeled Egon Muller and finding a wine from Australia, one from the Slovak Republic and then a regional Kabinett.
I had quite a different take. I buy mainly sweet rieslings (more and more Kabinett, less and less at higher levels). And my complaint has often been that the dry Austrians and German Grosse Gewachs were too rich and a bit low in acid. But I was quite excited by a lot of the dry wines:

Alzinger -- My only experience has been with some fabulous aged Gruner Veltliners. But these rieslings showed very well, particularly the '15 Loibenberg Smaragd.

Hirtzberger -- Terrific stuff, particularly the '15 Hochrain Smaragd.

Leitz -- I opened an '07 Spatlese of his recently that was outstanding, and the '15 Trockens he was pouring were great, I thought: The Berg Roseneck "Katerlock" GG; the Berg Rottland "Hinterhaus" GG (the tops for me) and the Berg Schlossberg GG. It was also such a pleasure to talk to Johannes, who is so down to earth.

Donnhoff -- The '15 Leistenberg Kabinett had Donnhoff's signature intensity, with a lot of acid to counterbalance the richness/sweetness.

Beurer -- These were eye-openers for me, because most of the Schwabia wines I've had have been industrial Trollinger Halbtrockens (off-dry, almost pink reds). These all had a distinct earthy and herbal quality that I guess is the terroir. The vines are in a valley east of Stuttgart. I loved the '15 Estate Dry, the '15 Pulvermacher GG and the 2010 "Jungers Schwaben."

Selbach-Oster -- The Schlossberg Spatlese Feinherb Ur Alte Reben was first rate (110-year-old ungrafted vines).

I like the Diel wines. The estate Qba bottling for the US market, "Von der Nahe," was a lovely Feinherb level wine. I assume that will be fairly cheap.

Schloss Lieser was great across the board. No surprise there. The '02 Niederberg Helden Spatlese was a bonus treat.

The only wines I found a little too dry for my tastes were a couple of the '15s Clemens Busch and the J.B. Becker wines. (I quite liked Busch's '14 and '15 Marienburg Rotenpfad GGs.) And the Frick wines didn't send me.

And, yes, I would have preferred more Saar wines from Egon Muller. The Slovakian 2015 "Chateau Bela" was clean but boring and I found their Australian 2014 Kanta downright weird. It had a bug spray element for me.
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#45 Post by John Morris » February 21st, 2017, 2:40 pm

DanielPaik wrote:I thought the Leitz's GG lineup was quite good. Donnhoff's 15 Hermannshohle Spat was quite tasty. It was my first time tasting Von Winning's GG wines, and honestly, they blew me away. Its possible that's because because of the large tasting setting that makes them stand out with their sheer size, but I thought them to be massive, but balanced, outstanding wines. I think some people have mentioned they find their wines overoaked, but I didn't get personally feel that way. The only disappointment was finding out their prices.

Biggest disappointments for me were JB Becker and Muller. Muller, simply because I didn't really get to taste any of the Muller lineup, instead just the Slovakian/Australia/QbA wines which were rather unspectacular. Becker was pouring a couple 14s, which I found pretty unpleasurable.
I never made it to Von Winning's table, but I'm on the same page as you on the others.
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#46 Post by Howard Cooper » February 21st, 2017, 3:19 pm

John Morris wrote:
Donnhoff -- The '15 Leistenberg Kabinett had Donnhoff's signature intensity, with a lot of acid to counterbalance the richness/sweetness.
Interesting that you mentioned this one because I thought the next wine from Donnhoff, the Hermannshohle Spatlese, was the best wine of the afternoon - although I really liked everything from Selbach, Schloss Lieser and Hirtzberger, as I mentioned, and also liked a lot the Fricke 2015 Lorcher Schlossberg (labeled dry but with 20-22 grams of RS), the Diel Goldloch Kabinett, and the Hofgut Falkenstein Sonnenberg Spatlese Feinherb.
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#47 Post by Howard Cooper » February 21st, 2017, 3:23 pm

One interesting tidbit. I was told by a guy who said he works for Rudi Wiest that JJ Prum bought or is buying Weins-Prüm.
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#48 Post by John W Osgood » February 21st, 2017, 3:29 pm

Much better organization compared to last year...more breathing room and no collapsing coat racks...my favorite sets of wines were from Vollenweider (VD baby) and Selbach-Oster. I too was disappointed by the Egon Muller table, last year's wines were much more compelling there.

Oh yeah, it was great to run into our own Jay Hack! I think he mistook the event for a Saxum tasting...
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#49 Post by John Morris » February 21st, 2017, 3:40 pm

John W Osgood wrote: Oh yeah, it was great to run into our own Jay Hack! I think he mistook the event for a Saxum tasting...
Thomas Haag looked a little perplexed when Jay proclaimed, "I'm a Saxum guy, I like 16% wines." Haag probably thought he was saying he was a Saxon.

There and several other tables Jay introduced me as a AFWE type who didn't like alcohol.
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#50 Post by John Morris » February 21st, 2017, 3:41 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:
John Morris wrote:
Donnhoff -- The '15 Leistenberg Kabinett had Donnhoff's signature intensity, with a lot of acid to counterbalance the richness/sweetness.
Interesting that you mentioned this one because I thought the next wine from Donnhoff, the Hermannshohle Spatlese, was the best wine of the afternoon ....
Funny, but I don't have any notes on the Hermannshohle. But it was at Donnhoff's table that I ran into Jay Hack....
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