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#101 Post by Paul Miller » March 6th, 2020, 3:19 pm

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Scheduled to go to the retail real estate convention in Las Vegas in May. Obviously, a game time decision.
May not be your choice. The International Housewares Convention here in Chicago (60,000+) canceled this month’s convention this week
As an example of impacts the virus is having... My wife met today with a charity here in Chicago. Their big money-maker of the year is a sale they sponsor after this convention. They receive the samples, demo products, etc., from the IHC. They are then allowed to sell the items as a fundraiser. With IHC cancelled, there goes a big chunk of their budget for the year.

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#102 Post by Ian H » March 6th, 2020, 3:28 pm

SXSW was cancelled today. Most major corporations have not banned travel, or at least non-essential travel.

2 weeks ago I cancelled a trip I had to Japan that would have been last week. Like others have mentioned, not worried about catching it but the inconvenience of quarantine chaos.

We have a 2 week trip to Greece in late May and I'm officially worried about it.
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#103 Post by David Kaufman » March 6th, 2020, 4:51 pm

This week and next weeks travel all cancelled - Irvine, KC, Seattle

Still planning to go to Maui next weekend though

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#104 Post by Siun o'Connell » March 6th, 2020, 6:41 pm

Austin local economy loses $400 million with cancellation of SXSW and a lot of the local businesses will be crushed. The amount of income lost by service workers is unbelievable

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#105 Post by Al Osterheld » March 6th, 2020, 8:24 pm

Yes, the human factor has many aspects and this has been a huge impact on workers and small business owners (and even large businesses).

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#106 Post by ckirk » March 7th, 2020, 3:53 am

If you do end up going then it'll at least not be crowded:p But who knows what's happening with the virus, Italy just had a bunch more deaths associated with the virus. Hopefully it gets under control soon.
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#107 Post by ckirk » March 7th, 2020, 3:57 am

However there's never been a better time to book a cruise, they're dirt cheap apparently lol
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#108 Post by Dennis Atick » March 7th, 2020, 4:14 am

The American Education Research Association announced last night the cancellation of the 2020 meeting that was scheduled for San Francisco in mid-April.
Probably 20,000 total attendees over the 4 days.
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#109 Post by Victor Hong » March 7th, 2020, 10:30 am

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However there's never been a better time to book a cruise, they're dirt cheap apparently lol
Free room service for all meals....mandatory.
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#110 Post by Bdklein » March 7th, 2020, 1:29 pm

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We have a little quandry. We live in the US -our younger daughter is scheduled to go to Southern Italy in early April for a school trip, and my wife and I are scheduled to go to Amsterdam for a few days during her trip. We are using Airbnb so already paid half; the balance is due in late March . And we might need to stick around for some health concerns for our older daughter.

We will figure it all out-or circumstances may make the decisions for us.
High school trip canceled .
So I told my wife I’m not leaving the country. Concerned about getting stuck/quarantined, and not with our kids. In her typical fashion, she says I’m overreacting and she’s going to find someone else to go with. I wish her luck .

Then she takes our child to doctor today for a routine shot. Doctor tells my wife she should not leave the country. Perhaps she’s coming around.
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#111 Post by David K o l i n » March 7th, 2020, 2:21 pm

With refundable airfares and refundable AirBNbs/VRBOs, I would think twice about scheduling travel if I could get insurance that covers nice quarantine accommodations (including food and wine)

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#112 Post by Degarmo.j » March 7th, 2020, 5:31 pm

I’m heading to Japan for two weeks with my partner tomorrow, we are spending much time in Tokyo mostly very small areas in the county so not too worried about it. Would have delayed it but one ryokan wouldn’t budge and was $2k, so off we go.
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#113 Post by Robert M yers » March 7th, 2020, 6:34 pm

I’m thinking JazzFest may be the next to cancel. First year I’ve ever been happy that I procrastinate to buy airline tickets. I do have all kinds of late night show tickets, but that’s only 400-500 bucks.
I’m pretty sure if your in the medical field or work with The public your going to have been exposed to it by then. So I anticipate my fate already being decided before the Fest.

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#114 Post by dbailey » March 8th, 2020, 12:08 am

Meant to be doing a car rally around northern italy in june. No idea if it will go ahead but I’m holding off signing up and paying for now.
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#115 Post by Gobindjit S. Dhaliwal » March 8th, 2020, 7:28 am

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I’m not going anywhere until this “blows over”. Any meetings abroad, unless absolutely necessary, I’ll do via telecon. Eldest son leaving soon for work in David, Panama; but no COVID-19 case reported there so far. Youngest studying in the Netherlands these days. I advised him to avoid unnecessary travel for the time being.

*Edited for typo.

Technically no cases CONFIRMED in Panama yet. Our neighbors Costa Rica and Colombia have a few cases, and the Costa Rican paitent spent a few hours in Panama while infected.

I'm already acting like the bug is here. I'm travelling to Burgundy, Mosel, and Spain this week... not sure if I should go or not.

I know theres about 30 somtin cases in Beaune, and a police enforced quarantine in Haro, Rioja.

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#116 Post by RichardFlack » March 8th, 2020, 8:23 am

Michael O'Brien wrote:
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I called Air Canada yesterday because they had changed our flight schedule from Vancouver to Toronto. They are so overwhelmed, the message yesterday was that they will not even put a caller on hold. It is web or nothing. They set no expectation as to when that might change.
Isn’t that SOP for AC?
Motto: “Were not happy until you’re not happy”

My guess is we’ll see flights cancelled left right and centre as traffic goes down.

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#117 Post by RichardFlack » March 8th, 2020, 8:29 am

Wondering about domestic travel, in Canada.
We have planned a trip Toronto to Halifax in August.
We had already booked sleeper train from Toronto to Halifax and about to book flight back.
Assume no special epidemic in Halifax.
How risky is this?
We would book Porter anyway, so Billy Bishop not Pearson. There is some US traffic there, no other international otherwise mainly domestic.
We will obviously book fully refundable / changeable.

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#118 Post by Ramon C » March 8th, 2020, 8:40 am

No fancy exotic destination here, but cancelled my upcoming weekend trip to Los Angeles. Nothing against the good Los Angelenos, but the usual West-coast-bound cramped-flights and the current airport worries had added to stress levels to people around me.
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#119 Post by Brandon_R_Moyse » March 8th, 2020, 2:43 pm

I have a Burgundy trip planned for late May and don’t intend to call it off unless I’m forced to!

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#120 Post by Barry L i p t o n » March 8th, 2020, 6:07 pm

I’m scheduled for a week in Paris and 9 days in Tunisia. Bombing the embassy in Tunis didn’t enhance my outlook.

By May the deciding will be made for me more likely, as I expect Paris to shut down like Milan

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#121 Post by Al Osterheld » March 8th, 2020, 6:44 pm

Yes, I think there are many ways that things could evolve and there will be more clarity in a couple of months. My only scheduled vacation is a rare family reunion in Montana in mid-summer.

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#122 Post by mike pobega » March 9th, 2020, 2:08 am

Delta just changed its options and my kids tickets are much less flexible than mine. I will reimburse my kids and add Delta to my ban list quite soon. 4 hour wait for a call back right now.

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#123 Post by Victor Hong » March 9th, 2020, 5:52 am

Plane travel get even more onerous, if passenger testing occurs.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics ... index.html
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#124 Post by Dennis Borczon » March 9th, 2020, 9:05 am

RichardFlack wrote:
March 8th, 2020, 8:29 am
Wondering about domestic travel, in Canada.
We have planned a trip Toronto to Halifax in August.
We had already booked sleeper train from Toronto to Halifax and about to book flight back.
Assume no special epidemic in Halifax.
How risky is this?
We would book Porter anyway, so Billy Bishop not Pearson. There is some US traffic there, no other international otherwise mainly domestic.
We will obviously book fully refundable / changeable.
Remember that Zombie movie Z? Brad Pitt had his family safe at a naval base in Halifax. Probably pretty safe there [whistle.gif]

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#125 Post by RichardFlack » March 9th, 2020, 9:18 am

Much as I admire Brad Pitt as an underrated actor, that's one I havent seen!
Im more concerned to assess the travel risk; we will be staying with friends in Halifax and mostly at a cottage out of town.

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#126 Post by Robert M yers » March 9th, 2020, 9:44 am

Al Osterheld wrote:
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Yes, I think there are many ways that things could evolve and there will be more clarity in a couple of months. My only scheduled vacation is a rare family reunion in Montana in mid-summer.

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My wife and I were just talking this morning about moving back and settling to Polebridge. We lived in Whitefish for years but even there isn’t far enough off the map at this point.

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#127 Post by Al Osterheld » March 9th, 2020, 12:20 pm

Polebridge is a bit far off the grid for most people, literally has its own grid.

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#128 Post by Dennis Atick » March 9th, 2020, 2:38 pm

Well, all of Italy is now certainly a no-go for a while.
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#129 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » March 9th, 2020, 2:42 pm

All of my professional domestic travel was canceled today so I’m not getting on a flight to DC in 18 days.

Hurrah!
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#130 Post by Victor Hong » March 9th, 2020, 2:52 pm

Dennis Atick wrote:
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Well, all of Italy is now certainly a no-go for a while.
At last, Alitalia flights will take off on schedule.
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#131 Post by Dan Hammer » March 9th, 2020, 4:49 pm

mike pobega wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 2:08 am
Delta just changed its options and my kids tickets are much less flexible than mine. I will reimburse my kids and add Delta to my ban list quite soon. 4 hour wait for a call back right now.
No need to worry. Read everything.
https://www.delta.com/us/en/advisories/ ... wjpyrw8qkE
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#132 Post by mark rudner » March 10th, 2020, 11:26 am

american going to match that policy dan?

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#133 Post by Michael O'Brien » March 10th, 2020, 12:10 pm

I see some of you are having more luck that I am. American has only loosened the rules for certain flights. Here is their statement:
"If you purchased a ticket on American Airlines between March 1, 2020 at 4:30 p.m. CT and March 31, 2020 at 11:59 p.m. CT, you may change your flight once without paying a change fee. Tickets must be purchased for travel between March 1, 2020 and January 30, 2021."

So what about those of us flying to exactly the same destinations that booked prior to 1 March. How do they justify excluding the majority of tickets sold. If I were to guess, I would say it is because their biggest market, business travelers will likely fit within the window and they want to protect their revenue stream as much as they can. That probably makes sense to the bean counters but it certainly doesn't to the flying public.

As for cruise prices dropping; so far the cruises we have booked have not lowered their rates. We are booked on Viking and Oceania which have not at this time been directly affected by the Coronavirus. None of our cruises are headed to Asia or Italy until 2022. Personally, we are standing pat for now and hoping that in spite of the rough start, the planet will get control of this pandemic. If not, we have bigger problems than losing a few thousand dollars on airfare.
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#134 Post by Marshall Gelb » March 10th, 2020, 1:26 pm

Northern Europe and then St. Petersburg in September. Still on !

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#135 Post by mike pobega » March 10th, 2020, 3:21 pm

I will be rebooking Italy for October 25-November 7th

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#136 Post by Matt Mauldin » March 10th, 2020, 5:32 pm

I'm working on rebooking my Italy trip originally end of April.
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#137 Post by Todd F r e n c h » March 10th, 2020, 5:35 pm

Coachelle and Stagecoach postponed
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#138 Post by Mike Maguire » March 10th, 2020, 6:29 pm

Still going to Sitka for the summer.🤪 [dance-clap.gif]

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#139 Post by johngonzales » March 11th, 2020, 8:21 am

Just postponed a Spain trip that was scheduled for early May.
I figure that it’s possible things look more clear, and better in a few months, and then there will be good short lead-time deals. So will just hold off. I don’t think I’ve ever done a “staycation” of more than a couple of work days. That’s starting to look like an option, or maybe just a driving trip within 400 miles.

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#140 Post by Mark Y » March 11th, 2020, 1:33 pm

cancelled mid April Scandinavia... Sad...
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#141 Post by Michael Martin » March 11th, 2020, 1:39 pm

johngonzales wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 8:21 am
Just postponed a Spain trip that was scheduled for early May.
I figure that it’s possible things look more clear, and better in a few months, and then there will be good short lead-time deals. So will just hold off. I don’t think I’ve ever done a “staycation” of more than a couple of work days. That’s starting to look like an option, or maybe just a driving trip within 400 miles.
We cancelled our Spain trip. Was supposed to be there last week. We instead went to Moab and had a blast. Fun can be had in many places.

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#142 Post by Dan Hammer » March 11th, 2020, 2:21 pm

My wife just told me the President will speak tonight about travel to Europe. I didn't hear it, and will wait until tonight.
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#143 Post by Todd F r e n c h » March 11th, 2020, 2:52 pm

Michael Martin wrote:
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johngonzales wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 8:21 am
Just postponed a Spain trip that was scheduled for early May.
I figure that it’s possible things look more clear, and better in a few months, and then there will be good short lead-time deals. So will just hold off. I don’t think I’ve ever done a “staycation” of more than a couple of work days. That’s starting to look like an option, or maybe just a driving trip within 400 miles.
We cancelled our Spain trip. Was supposed to be there last week. We instead went to Moab and had a blast. Fun can be had in many places.
Would love to hear what you did - we're still planning to go early next month for our family Spring Break trip (also Grand Canyon, Bryce Canyon)
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#144 Post by G. Greenbaum » March 11th, 2020, 3:42 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
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Would love to hear what you did - we're still planning to go early next month for our family Spring Break trip (also Grand Canyon, Bryce Canyon)
In Bryce, I highly recommend doing multiple hikes. Off the Rim trail take the Navaho Trail switchbacks down to the Queen's Garden Trail. There's a lot to see and not a ton of ground to cover. The hike I liked most is the more rigorous and longer Fairyland loop. It's about 7.5 miles but stunning and not nearly as crowded. Anywhere you go in Bryce is stunning. Are you going to Zion? Very cool hikes into the back country in Zion. Another mazing hike in UT is the slot canyons in Buckskin Gulch. It's accessed from a dirt road and not far from Kanab. There's petroglyphs too! IN the GC, try to find an off road or trail that takes you to the rim away from the crowds. Shoshone Point Trailhead is a good one with an easy 1 mi walk to the rim. There are picnic tables and bbq grills at the point.
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#145 Post by G. Greenbaum » March 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm

A conference I was attending in Denver (4/6/20) has been cancelled. I have no problem with this and in fact was going to likely back out anyway.
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#146 Post by Michael Martin » March 11th, 2020, 3:54 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 2:52 pm
Michael Martin wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 1:39 pm
johngonzales wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 8:21 am
Just postponed a Spain trip that was scheduled for early May.
I figure that it’s possible things look more clear, and better in a few months, and then there will be good short lead-time deals. So will just hold off. I don’t think I’ve ever done a “staycation” of more than a couple of work days. That’s starting to look like an option, or maybe just a driving trip within 400 miles.
We cancelled our Spain trip. Was supposed to be there last week. We instead went to Moab and had a blast. Fun can be had in many places.
Would love to hear what you did - we're still planning to go early next month for our family Spring Break trip (also Grand Canyon, Bryce Canyon)
That is going to be a busy time there, but there is so much to do. Arches NP is spectacular. Hike to delicate arch. That’s the arch on the Utah license plates. Take a tour or rent a Jeep/ATV and go explore the backcountry. Boat/jet ski the Colorado River. Rent mountain bikes. Drive up onto Island in the Sky and see Dead Horse Point. Famous view of the west and the ending scene to Thelma and Louise. Petroglyphs everywhere surrounding the town. Stop at the visitor’s center in town for more info. Drive 128 the river road. Good eats at 98 Center, LaSal and Moab Garage. Bring your own wine. Utah is tough for good liquor of any kind, except maybe craft beer.
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#147 Post by Roger Ouellette » March 11th, 2020, 4:46 pm

Looking like our late May trip to Piedmonte is not going to happen but we haven't cancelled anything yet. Milan airport looks to be practically locked down at this time.

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#148 Post by Mattstolz » March 11th, 2020, 6:14 pm

President Trump just announced no travel from Europe for 30 days starting on Friday.

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#150 Post by Mattstolz » March 11th, 2020, 7:55 pm

Press release from the Department of Homeland Security states the travel ban only applies to foreign nationals, not to citizens or permanent residents of the US who have been screened prior to entry

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/hom ... oclamation

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