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#1 Post by Shaner M » March 27th, 2019, 4:47 pm

Hey all! Looking for any rec's in the Florence/San Gimignano area for winery visits and eateries. If there are any worthwhile excursions those would be welcome as well. Thanks in advance.
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#2 Post by LoriMcLaughlin » March 28th, 2019, 10:11 am

Enoteca Pitti e Gola in Florence - they also have an Osteria. Fun team and a good wine stop.

On a non-wine related hotel, we loved a visit to Aqua Flor for perfumes, soaps, etc. https://www.aquaflorexperience.com/

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#4 Post by Kenneth Brown » March 28th, 2019, 5:08 pm

What Lori said, Enoteca Pitti Gola E Cantina. This is probably one of the better wine bars in the world. Particularly if you like old Chianti. We we're just there maybe 4 days ago,and it was fantastic. Food was very good and Zeno, one of the owners is about as good of a host as one could hope for. He exudes both welcome and enthusiasm. He is happy to engage anyone in a lengthy wine discussion, and the best course is to just tell him what you like and let him pick it for you if you are going to order an old bottle of Chianti or anything else, his wines are his babies. I gave him 68 as a challenge and he came back with
IMG_20190325_204841.jpg
It was amazing at over 50 years. My wife even loved it. Still very alive with significant cherry and red fruits and sous bois lingering all about. It was somewhat round and easy to drink whilst still retaining an acid backbone, and of course interesting and complex. Quite simply lovely in a word.

Dunno what else to say, just trust Zeno. Amazing experience, and I'm quite sure it can be great even if you don't like old Chianti. We chatted quite a bit about Piemonte and Burgundy of which both he is a big fan.

I wanted to sleep there, wife made me come back to apartment.
So overall, not bad for a winebar.

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#5 Post by Shaner M » March 31st, 2019, 8:18 am

Thank you all for the rec's! I will be making stops at these locations, especially the Enoteca
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#6 Post by Barry L i p t o n » March 31st, 2019, 8:40 am

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March 28th, 2019, 5:08 pm
What Lori said, Enoteca Pitti Gola E Cantina. This is probably one of the better wine bars in the world. Particularly if you like old Chianti. We we're just there maybe 4 days ago,and it was fantastic. Food was very good and Zeno, one of the owners is about as good of a host as one could hope for. He exudes both welcome and enthusiasm. He is happy to engage anyone in a lengthy wine discussion, and the best course is to just tell him what you like and let him pick it for you if you are going to order an old bottle of Chianti or anything else, his wines are his babies. I gave him 68 as a challenge and he came back with

IMG_20190325_204841.jpg

It was amazing at over 50 years. My wife even loved it. Still very alive with significant cherry and red fruits and sous bois lingering all about. It was somewhat round and easy to drink whilst still retaining an acid backbone, and of course interesting and complex. Quite simply lovely in a word.

Dunno what else to say, just trust Zeno. Amazing experience, and I'm quite sure it can be great even if you don't like old Chianti. We chatted quite a bit about Piemonte and Burgundy of which both he is a big fan.

I wanted to sleep there, wife made me come back to apartment.
So overall, not bad for a winebar.
Very cool. Mine if I ask the cost?

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#7 Post by Ramon C » March 31st, 2019, 10:58 am

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
March 31st, 2019, 8:40 am
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March 28th, 2019, 5:08 pm
What Lori said, Enoteca Pitti Gola E Cantina. This is probably one of the better wine bars in the world. Particularly if you like old Chianti. We we're just there maybe 4 days ago,and it was fantastic. Food was very good and Zeno, one of the owners is about as good of a host as one could hope for. He exudes both welcome and enthusiasm. He is happy to engage anyone in a lengthy wine discussion, and the best course is to just tell him what you like and let him pick it for you if you are going to order an old bottle of Chianti or anything else, his wines are his babies. I gave him 68 as a challenge and he came back with

IMG_20190325_204841.jpg

It was amazing at over 50 years. My wife even loved it. Still very alive with significant cherry and red fruits and sous bois lingering all about. It was somewhat round and easy to drink whilst still retaining an acid backbone, and of course interesting and complex. Quite simply lovely in a word.

Dunno what else to say, just trust Zeno. Amazing experience, and I'm quite sure it can be great even if you don't like old Chianti. We chatted quite a bit about Piemonte and Burgundy of which both he is a big fan.

I wanted to sleep there, wife made me come back to apartment.
So overall, not bad for a winebar.
Very cool. Mine if I ask the cost?
Good tip! Also curious about the cost.
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#8 Post by Ramon C » March 31st, 2019, 11:04 am

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Hey all! Looking for any rec's in the Florence/San Gimignano area for winery visits and eateries. If there are any worthwhile excursions those would be welcome as well. Thanks in advance.
For something very informal, shared communal tables, but awesome Florentine steaks and buttered chicken dish, look up Trattoria Sostanza.
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#9 Post by Josh Grossman » March 31st, 2019, 11:37 am

We are doing a week in Tuscany and a week on the Amalfi Coast at the end of June/beginning of July. I've been to Italy, but it was over a decade ago and I stayed mostly north (did see Lucca and Cinque Terre)--but were mostly backpacking in the Dolomites. I'll leave out the Amalfi notes as you won't be there--but this is what I've found that has peaked my interest. From what I've read, we are are going to skip Sienna in lieu of some smaller towns: e.g. Volterra, Sorano, Cortona, Pitigliano. Planning a stop at Orvieto, Parco dei Mostri, Civita di Bagnoregio, and Todi (if there is time) while driving south to Amalfi.

While in Tuscany, we have a villa in Greve in Chianti for the first week. For restaurants, places recommended include Albergaccio, Osteria Volpaia, Albergo Ristorante Il Cipresso, Osteria Le Panzanelle, Ristorante Poggio Rosso. Wine and food related but not restaurants or wineries include Accademia Del Buon Gusto (wine muesuem), Enoteca Falorni (wine store and tastings), Antica Macelleria Falorni (butcher and cheese monger). Wineries I'm hoping to visit include near Brunello: Sassetti Livio Pertimali, Azienda Agricola S.Giuseppe, and Pian dell’Orino. Closer to Greve in Chianti I've looked at Felsina, Caffagio, Máté Winery, Avigonesi, Poggio Salvi, and Antinori (just for the architecture).

We are interested in thermal hot springs. There are a few but I think the Terme San Filippo Bagni looks less touristy than Saturnia Cascate del Mulino. Pitigliano looks interesting for hiking and it's very close to the latter though. These will all be places I've never been--so there are better experts on this board than I. We only have one night in Florence to catch an early flight so not too much planned there. If time, I'd like to go see some of the Boboli Gardens, AcquaFlor (perfumeria), and some non-David art.

Much of what I'm posting is knowledge from this board and can be found in other threads; there are many if you search.

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#10 Post by geoffpm » April 1st, 2019, 7:33 am

Since you mentioned San Gimignano, there is a great thermal springs town about 20 min drive , Gambassi Terme. http://welcometuscany.it/special_intere ... mbassi.htm.

Gambassi is also interesting for wine geeks since Villa Pillo, owned by the owner of Williams Seylem. Villa pillo's wines are first rate and their olive oil was one of the best we tried in Tuscany. They ship directly to the US at great rates and I always get a few bottles of oil each December.
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#11 Post by Kenneth Brown » April 2nd, 2019, 5:50 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
March 31st, 2019, 8:40 am
Kenneth Brown wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 5:08 pm
What Lori said, Enoteca Pitti Gola E Cantina. This is probably one of the better wine bars in the world. Particularly if you like old Chianti. We we're just there maybe 4 days ago,and it was fantastic. Food was very good and Zeno, one of the owners is about as good of a host as one could hope for. He exudes both welcome and enthusiasm. He is happy to engage anyone in a lengthy wine discussion, and the best course is to just tell him what you like and let him pick it for you if you are going to order an old bottle of Chianti or anything else, his wines are his babies. I gave him 68 as a challenge and he came back with

IMG_20190325_204841.jpg

It was amazing at over 50 years. My wife even loved it. Still very alive with significant cherry and red fruits and sous bois lingering all about. It was somewhat round and easy to drink whilst still retaining an acid backbone, and of course interesting and complex. Quite simply lovely in a word.

Dunno what else to say, just trust Zeno. Amazing experience, and I'm quite sure it can be great even if you don't like old Chianti. We chatted quite a bit about Piemonte and Burgundy of which both he is a big fan.

I wanted to sleep there, wife made me come back to apartment.
So overall, not bad for a winebar.
Very cool. Mine if I ask the cost?
Sorry, I meant to post that, it's the best part! A little less than $100 for the bottle. I don't think any old Chianti on the list is more than about 130 Euros, but there could be a couple outliers I missed.

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#12 Post by Jay Miller » April 3rd, 2019, 6:06 am

Kenneth Brown wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 5:08 pm
What Lori said, Enoteca Pitti Gola E Cantina. This is probably one of the better wine bars in the world. Particularly if you like old Chianti. We we're just there maybe 4 days ago,and it was fantastic. Food was very good and Zeno, one of the owners is about as good of a host as one could hope for. He exudes both welcome and enthusiasm. He is happy to engage anyone in a lengthy wine discussion, and the best course is to just tell him what you like and let him pick it for you if you are going to order an old bottle of Chianti or anything else, his wines are his babies. I gave him 68 as a challenge and he came back with

IMG_20190325_204841.jpg

It was amazing at over 50 years. My wife even loved it. Still very alive with significant cherry and red fruits and sous bois lingering all about. It was somewhat round and easy to drink whilst still retaining an acid backbone, and of course interesting and complex. Quite simply lovely in a word.

Dunno what else to say, just trust Zeno. Amazing experience, and I'm quite sure it can be great even if you don't like old Chianti. We chatted quite a bit about Piemonte and Burgundy of which both he is a big fan.

I wanted to sleep there, wife made me come back to apartment.
So overall, not bad for a winebar.
Wow, as someone who loves old (and young, and middle aged) Chianti now I really, really want to go back to Florence.
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#13 Post by Barry L i p t o n » April 3rd, 2019, 7:24 am

Kenneth Brown wrote:
April 2nd, 2019, 5:50 pm
Barry L i p t o n wrote:
March 31st, 2019, 8:40 am
Kenneth Brown wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 5:08 pm
What Lori said, Enoteca Pitti Gola E Cantina. This is probably one of the better wine bars in the world. Particularly if you like old Chianti. We we're just there maybe 4 days ago,and it was fantastic. Food was very good and Zeno, one of the owners is about as good of a host as one could hope for. He exudes both welcome and enthusiasm. He is happy to engage anyone in a lengthy wine discussion, and the best course is to just tell him what you like and let him pick it for you if you are going to order an old bottle of Chianti or anything else, his wines are his babies. I gave him 68 as a challenge and he came back with

IMG_20190325_204841.jpg

It was amazing at over 50 years. My wife even loved it. Still very alive with significant cherry and red fruits and sous bois lingering all about. It was somewhat round and easy to drink whilst still retaining an acid backbone, and of course interesting and complex. Quite simply lovely in a word.

Dunno what else to say, just trust Zeno. Amazing experience, and I'm quite sure it can be great even if you don't like old Chianti. We chatted quite a bit about Piemonte and Burgundy of which both he is a big fan.

I wanted to sleep there, wife made me come back to apartment.
So overall, not bad for a winebar.
Very cool. Mine if I ask the cost?
Sorry, I meant to post that, it's the best part! A little less than $100 for the bottle. I don't think any old Chianti on the list is more than about 130 Euros, but there could be a couple outliers I missed.
Super, thanks!

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#14 Post by Kenneth Brown » April 3rd, 2019, 3:40 pm

Let me also throw out Le Volpi de L'Uva as another really good winebar. You won't find anything really old on the list, but the wines are good and Leonardo was a great host. The food is very small plates but good. You could make a meal of it I suppose, but you would have to order one of everything just about. Better suited for a couple nice glasses and a nosh. Right across the Ponte Vecchio.

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#15 Post by Kevin Sidders » April 7th, 2019, 7:42 am

LoriMcLaughlin wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 10:11 am
Enoteca Pitti e Gola in Florence - they also have an Osteria. Fun team and a good wine stop.
My favorite wine bar in the world. I recommend it every chance I get, and have never had anything other than great feedback...
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#16 Post by Dav1d S@wyer » April 7th, 2019, 7:08 pm

Kevin Sidders wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:42 am
LoriMcLaughlin wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 10:11 am
Enoteca Pitti e Gola in Florence - they also have an Osteria. Fun team and a good wine stop.
My favorite wine bar in the world. I recommend it every chance I get, and have never had anything other than great feedback...
Heading there next month. Is the osteria worth doing for dinner or is the enoteca sufficient?

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#17 Post by Tim Heaton » April 8th, 2019, 11:14 pm

Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:08 pm
Kevin Sidders wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:42 am
LoriMcLaughlin wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 10:11 am
Enoteca Pitti e Gola in Florence - they also have an Osteria. Fun team and a good wine stop.
My favorite wine bar in the world. I recommend it every chance I get, and have never had anything other than great feedback...
Heading there next month. Is the osteria worth doing for dinner or is the enoteca sufficient?
I strongly recommend the Osteria. The place is comfortable from beginning to end - service, atmosphere, selections, food, etc. I go there several times a year, and I leave planning my return. Which pretty much says it all.
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#18 Post by Dav1d S@wyer » April 12th, 2019, 1:26 pm

Tim Heaton wrote:
April 8th, 2019, 11:14 pm
Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:08 pm
Kevin Sidders wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:42 am


My favorite wine bar in the world. I recommend it every chance I get, and have never had anything other than great feedback...
Heading there next month. Is the osteria worth doing for dinner or is the enoteca sufficient?
I strongly recommend the Osteria. The place is comfortable from beginning to end - service, atmosphere, selections, food, etc. I go there several times a year, and I leave planning my return. Which pretty much says it all.
Fantastic. Thanks!

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#19 Post by Riccardo Campinoti » April 14th, 2019, 12:43 am

Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 1:26 pm
Tim Heaton wrote:
April 8th, 2019, 11:14 pm
Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:08 pm


Heading there next month. Is the osteria worth doing for dinner or is the enoteca sufficient?
I strongly recommend the Osteria. The place is comfortable from beginning to end - service, atmosphere, selections, food, etc. I go there several times a year, and I leave planning my return. Which pretty much says it all.
Fantastic. Thanks!
go to the enoteca for a bottle before having dinner at the Osteria. They are only a couple of minutes walk away from each other
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#20 Post by George Hejna » April 14th, 2019, 6:03 am

Tim Heaton wrote:
April 8th, 2019, 11:14 pm
Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:08 pm
Kevin Sidders wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:42 am


My favorite wine bar in the world. I recommend it every chance I get, and have never had anything other than great feedback...
Heading there next month. Is the osteria worth doing for dinner or is the enoteca sufficient?
I strongly recommend the Osteria. The place is comfortable from beginning to end - service, atmosphere, selections, food, etc. I go there several times a year, and I leave planning my return. Which pretty much says it all.
Are reservations difficult at the Osteria in the summer? How far in advance can/should you book?

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#21 Post by Tim Heaton » April 14th, 2019, 12:08 pm

George Hejna wrote:
April 14th, 2019, 6:03 am
Tim Heaton wrote:
April 8th, 2019, 11:14 pm
Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 7:08 pm


Heading there next month. Is the osteria worth doing for dinner or is the enoteca sufficient?
I strongly recommend the Osteria. The place is comfortable from beginning to end - service, atmosphere, selections, food, etc. I go there several times a year, and I leave planning my return. Which pretty much says it all.
Are reservations difficult at the Osteria in the summer? How far in advance can/should you book?

George
call them tomorrow, make your reservation, case closed. Or, tell me day and time and I will do it for you - plenty of windshield time tomorrow moving from Valtellina to Langhe. I'm never here in summer, ever, so i can't comment, but if it were me 2-3 weeks ahead would seem practical.
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#22 Post by Tim Heaton » April 14th, 2019, 12:11 pm

re : OP, in San Gimignano, consider: Cum Quibus Ristorante, Il Ceppo Toscana, and Montenidoli for winery.
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#23 Post by Shaner M » April 24th, 2019, 10:14 pm

Thank you. I could use more winery suggestions. Even around Venice and Lake Como as well.
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#24 Post by Patrick T » April 26th, 2019, 11:52 am

I loved loved loved Vini e Vecchi Sapori.

Excellent mid-priced lunches and dinners. Several half bottles on the menu.

Reservations are basically required, though 48-72 hrs should be plenty of notice.

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#25 Post by Dave Sankaran » April 29th, 2019, 12:04 pm

La Bussola in Florence...perhaps the most memorable Pizza i've had. I've gone back each time I've returned to Florence...its that good. But, I have to say, I can only speak for one pizza on their menu. IIRC its a "special", but they have it everyday. Its got local boar salumi and some "sticks of cheese". It is amazing. They have a whole restaurant, but I've only ever sat at the "pizza bar" right near the entrance and ordered pizza. I think their reviews for everything else are mixed. But this pizza is world class:

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#26 Post by Danny Chao » May 22nd, 2019, 5:57 am

Breaking my status as a lurker to recommend Trattoria Mario in Florence. It's a small, casual, loud eatery open for lunch only. Fantastic food with daily handwritten menus. If possible, arrive early--a queue starts to form 20-30 minutes before opening.

I consider my wife a gelato aficionado and I've followed her to many gelaterias accross Italy. I consider Gelateria Santa Trinita in Florence to be the best of them.

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#27 Post by geoffpm » May 22nd, 2019, 6:10 am

I am huge fan of Da Mario as well. The first we ate there there were posters all over the city about a Film Festival and the Professor who hosted it sat at our table and we talked film for 3 hrs and ate together.
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#28 Post by Dav1d S@wyer » May 28th, 2019, 2:28 pm

Just got to Radda in Chianti. We did Enoteca Pitti e Gola last Friday and it was absolutely wonderful. We had a bottle of 1965 Villarosa Chianti Classico Riserva made by Giulio Gambelli, the godfather of modern day Sangiovese winemakers like Soldera, etc. I would never have known this of course and the extremely knowleadgable team at the enoteca recommended it after I told them to choose something interesting from the 60s for around 80 euro. The wine was gorgeous upon opening (full cork came out with a durand) and showed well for about an hour and a half. We also had an excellent sardine antipasti to snack on.

To add to that experience, we had dinner on Saturday at the Osteria. Not only was the Bistecca Fiorentina fantastic (and we Texans have high steak standards of course) but the team offered to call the enoteca to bring me a bottle because their selection in the fridge wasn't great at the top. A bottle of 2012 Biondi Santi Brunello, my second choice from my enoteca visit the night before, was at our table within 15 minutes and the dinner was perfect.

I can't recommend these establishments enough for their wine selection and more importantly for the incredible service and passion of the team.

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#29 Post by Kevin Sidders » May 30th, 2019, 10:01 am

David -- great update! Glad to hear Pitti e Gola was as special for you as it has been for me...
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#30 Post by F.Daner » June 29th, 2019, 6:03 am

We are starting our trip in Florence in Sept and will be eating at the Osteria and visiting the wine bar as well. Thanks for the update !
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Just got to Radda in Chianti. We did Enoteca Pitti e Gola last Friday and it was absolutely wonderful. We had a bottle of 1965 Villarosa Chianti Classico Riserva made by Giulio Gambelli, the godfather of modern day Sangiovese winemakers like Soldera, etc. I would never have known this of course and the extremely knowleadgable team at the enoteca recommended it after I told them to choose something interesting from the 60s for around 80 euro. The wine was gorgeous upon opening (full cork came out with a durand) and showed well for about an hour and a half. We also had an excellent sardine antipasti to snack on.

To add to that experience, we had dinner on Saturday at the Osteria. Not only was the Bistecca Fiorentina fantastic (and we Texans have high steak standards of course) but the team offered to call the enoteca to bring me a bottle because their selection in the fridge wasn't great at the top. A bottle of 2012 Biondi Santi Brunello, my second choice from my enoteca visit the night before, was at our table within 15 minutes and the dinner was perfect.

I can't recommend these establishments enough for their wine selection and more importantly for the incredible service and passion of the team.
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