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Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 8:01 am
by alan weinberg
heading there Mar-Apr timeframe. TIA.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 12:28 pm
by Sarah Kirschbaum
Alan - will PM you over the weekend.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 8:37 pm
by doug johnson
Tetsuan is pretty awesome kappo in Tokyo.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 9:29 pm
by Mark Y
Ryugin was an exceptional experience.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 10:36 pm
by RyanC
Sushi Sawada in Tokyo (assuming you can’t get into Saito). Life-affirming. In dozens of Michelin starred meals across the globe, it was perhaps my most satisfying meal.

Loved Ryugin too.

Do at least one big Kaiseki meal in Kyoto. One of the worlds unique and wonderful experiences. We did Nakamura. I’d love to go back and do Mizai.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 29th, 2018, 8:18 am
by Phil Smith
Others will have a lot more breadth of experience here than I do. Continuing on Ryan's "if not Saito" above, and I expect there are quite a few great options, we had a great experience at Sushi Yoshitake. Beef at Shima. Kichto in Kyoto is beautiful Kaiseki but frighteningly expensive.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 29th, 2018, 12:53 pm
by ryancurry
What are you looking to eat?

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 30th, 2018, 1:28 pm
by Jay Miller
For great tsukemen ramen I'd try Rokurinsha on Ramen Street in Tokyo station. It's going to be our first meal when we arrive in Tokyo.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 30th, 2018, 4:52 pm
by dcornutt
Kyoto- Gion Matayoshi
One of the greatest experiences. Only 10 or so around the chefs table. I took my family. We had 5 of the seats.
It was absolutely stunning!

If you travel out from Kyoto, I highly recommend the Ryokan Miyamasou about 1 hr 1/2 outside of Kyoto.
All foraged menu. Amazing property. It will change your idea of natural cuisine. Stunning. They have also a 2 star restaurant in Kyoto. Sarah Kirshbaum knows them.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: September 30th, 2018, 5:39 pm
by YLee
Don't pay for overpriced $30 ramens. Just go to any non tourist trap restaurant and you can have a really great ramen for $5-$10

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 5th, 2018, 7:33 am
by Jason P1ckw1ck
RyanC wrote:
September 28th, 2018, 10:36 pm
Sushi Sawada in Tokyo (assuming you can’t get into Saito). Life-affirming. In dozens of Michelin starred meals across the globe, it was perhaps my most satisfying meal.

Loved Ryugin too.

Do at least one big Kaiseki meal in Kyoto. One of the worlds unique and wonderful experiences. We did Nakamura. I’d love to go back and do Mizai.
Took the words right out of me, Sawada Sushi was the best meal I've had in 5 trips to Japan, up there with the best of all time.

Ginza Steak, in you guessed it Ginza, has an all you can eat Kobe beef set menu, that was pretty wicked, it just kept coming all night long.

If you are into coffee, try Chatei Hatou near Shibuya, amazing attention to service and some cool origins on offer. Turret coffee near Tsukiji fish market (a must do in Tokyo) serves crazy good espresso and lattes.

I'm a tonkatsu freak, Katsukura in Kyoto never disappoints, I'm drooling just thinking about grinding those freshly roasted sesame seeds right now. As already mentioned Ramen Alley in Kyoto Station (upper floor of a department store) is phenomenal, I've tried 4 of the different varieties now, still want to go back for more haha

If you're going to Yokohama hit up Chinatown for dim sum, let me know if you are going there and I can recommend a bunch of cheap eats in that area.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 5th, 2018, 12:33 pm
by Jay Miller
Jason P1ckw1ck wrote:
October 5th, 2018, 7:33 am
Turret coffee near Tsukiji fish market (a must do in Tokyo) serves crazy good espresso and lattes.
Remember - The fish auction at Tsukiji fish market is closed and the new location at Toyosu will open on October 11(2 days before we arrive in Tokyo).

https://tokyocheapo.com/entertainment/t ... t-to-know/

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 5th, 2018, 5:48 pm
by Benny P
Was in Tokyo last year and ate at the following:
- Tokyo Ramen Street located in the Tokyo Station (a number of various ramen vendors).
- Narisawa - reservations needed, one of my favorite tasting menus and restaurant experiences thus far.
- Isehiro - a skewer yakitori place recommended by a friend that grew up in and currently still lives in Tokyo. Located around the Ginza district.
- Michiba - another tasting menu located in Ginza, more traditional Japanese food and the first Iron Chef's restaurant.
- Steakhouse Satou - quite possibly my favorite meal of the trip but that's the meat eater in me. Matsuzaka steak place that is out of Tokyo city boundaries but easily accessible via train.
- Kutekiya - ramen place that my cousin studying at a Tokyo Culinary school took us too. One of the best bowls of ramen I've had. A little bit of a line but wasn't too bad, moved fast.
- Manten sushi - 26 omakase sushi lunch was the best "deal" had in tokyo as it was about $60. There wasn't much English there and as the dishes kept coming I was scared that it was one of those places that keep serving you until you say stop. Near the Imperial Palace in a business area. Reservations recommended.
- Maisen - a pork cutlet chain restaurant that I've enjoyed each time I've had it.

From my experience, the restaurants I've visited in Tokyo really took their food seriously with many restaurants specializing in only one or handful of items. The items that they did specialize in, they truly mastered and the result was some of the most amazing food experiences I've had.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 5th, 2018, 9:39 pm
by m. ristev
yakitori imai is a fantastic experience and has a cool wine list

it would be difficult to find a better french restaurant than esquisse, even in france

there is so much amazing ramen everywhere, a must is the chicken paitan at kagari

start researching now and come up with an itinerary that suits your needs. there are endless restaurants serving exceptionally high quality food at every price point. for me the only disappointing experience was going to the fish market.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 8th, 2018, 9:31 am
by Jason P1ckw1ck
m. ristev wrote:
October 5th, 2018, 9:39 pm
for me the only disappointing experience was going to the fish market.
how so? are you referring to eating there or touring the actual stalls?

shame its finally closed now (as mentioned above)

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 8th, 2018, 12:46 pm
by Peter Hirsch
This is my favorite Kobe/Wagyu steak place in Tokyo. Been here maybe 4-5 times, always great. Odd because very quiet and in the basement of an office building (normal in Tokyo). Dons de la Nature in Ginza.

https://www.foodnut.com/50055/dons-de-la-nature-tokyo/

https://www.yelp.com/biz/dons-de-la-nature-千代田区

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 11th, 2018, 3:35 pm
by alan weinberg
thanks to all—Sarah, that was an amazing tome of valuable info. Still pouring over all.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 13th, 2018, 7:33 am
by Jason P1ckw1ck
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
September 28th, 2018, 12:28 pm
Alan - will PM you over the weekend.
Can I request the same info? haha

I'm heading back in April and am always looking for more firsthand experiences of great places to eat!

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 13th, 2018, 8:14 am
by Sarah Kirschbaum
Jason P1ckw1ck wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 7:33 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
September 28th, 2018, 12:28 pm
Alan - will PM you over the weekend.
Can I request the same info? haha

I'm heading back in April and am always looking for more firsthand experiences of great places to eat!
Nope, that was just for Alan because I want him (and his cellar) to owe me. :)

Just kidding, sure I'll send it to you. Most of it can be found in my older posts on this board as well.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 13th, 2018, 9:39 am
by Phil Smith
Jason P1ckw1ck wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 7:33 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
September 28th, 2018, 12:28 pm
Alan - will PM you over the weekend.
Can I request the same info? haha

I'm heading back in April and am always looking for more firsthand experiences of great places to eat!
+1. I don't have any plans to be there but would love to see Sarah's recommendations.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 13th, 2018, 10:47 am
by m. ristev
Jason P1ckw1ck wrote:
October 8th, 2018, 9:31 am
m. ristev wrote:
October 5th, 2018, 9:39 pm
for me the only disappointing experience was going to the fish market.
how so? are you referring to eating there or touring the actual stalls?

shame its finally closed now (as mentioned above)
it was the only place i went that felt legitimately touristy.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 13th, 2018, 10:49 am
by Sarah Kirschbaum
Phil Smith wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 9:39 am
Jason P1ckw1ck wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 7:33 am
Sarah Kirschbaum wrote:
September 28th, 2018, 12:28 pm
Alan - will PM you over the weekend.
Can I request the same info? haha

I'm heading back in April and am always looking for more firsthand experiences of great places to eat!
+1. I don't have any plans to be there but would love to see Sarah's recommendations.
I highly recommend you do a search for my previous Kyoto postings on the board first. My descriptions here are much more detailed and evocative.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 13th, 2018, 5:56 pm
by Steve Doi
I second the recommendation re: Sarah's prior posts on her trips to Japan. Well worth a read and, for me, pretty much spot on recommendations and observations.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: October 23rd, 2018, 11:20 am
by PCLIN
Tempura Uchitsu, but it’s a pain in the neck trying to get reservation.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: November 2nd, 2018, 2:17 pm
by Jay Miller
Had another great meal at Kappo Sakamoto (Kyoto) last week. Though I still don't understand the fascination so many people have with yuba...

The tonkatsu at Katsukura (Kyoto) was just as good as I remembered it - if not better. This time we remembered to pack the cabbage salad dressing we bought.

Excellent sukiyaki prepared in front of us at Moritaya.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: November 17th, 2018, 8:47 pm
by PCLIN
Recently had an excellent dinner at Sushi Kyubay on the 2nd floor of Hotel Okura, Tokyo, certainly better than expected, highly recommended.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: November 18th, 2018, 11:37 am
by Joe V
I really liked Ise Sueyoshi in Tokyo:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_ ... Kanto.html

It's walking distance from the Grand Hyatt and the Chef spent a few years in Canada so he speaks English. I'd definitely recommend a visit.

Re: Wanted: Tokyo and Kyoto restaurants

Posted: March 29th, 2019, 5:38 am
by jordan whitehead
this evening.