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#1 Post by Blake Brown » October 30th, 2017, 5:08 pm

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* Spending a month in Amsterdam seems to be the minimal amount of time to actually call it a vacation. Jet lag, climate acclimation, dietary changes, living quarters adaptation and all considered.

* Our apartment is near a school yard and it was really neat to see 35 young school aged children walking around with trash pick up tools clearing the streets and gutters from debris mostly strewn by tourists. What a concept!

The school grounds and streets we live near in Santa Barbara are littered with everything the students could toss without regard to polluting the earth.

* Another advanced project throughout Amsterdam are recycle bins for plastic, paper and glass. They`re located about every 3-4 blocks so it`s easy to do and a frequent reminder to do it.

* LONG hair is prevalent among the women and younger girls, even the toddlers. Id like to think it`s a hippy thing, but it`s more of a matter of staying warm in this rather cool environment.

* We were blessed to have Santa Barbara type weather for about half of the stay. We pack layers and layers of clothing and on this visit, we needed on layer or 2 at the most and really did not need our raincoats.

* When a weather forecast is given, it states there is a % of chance for rain. What that means there is there is a % that it WILL rain.

* It`s difficult to learn Dutch in that English is their 2nd language and when I say something in Dutch, they answer me in English.

* I`ve previously mentioned this in past musings, but it is still astounding, there is only one river in Amsterdam, The Amstel. Water is everywhere, but it`s the damming of the waters forming canals that is so prevalent.

* I`m often asked what is the attraction of Amsterdam for me. I answered it with the same proclamation that one sees when entering the Amsterdam Museum, “The City of Freedom”. I felt it the first time there and have ever since. People are free to be themselves and most choose to do this with reverence to the principal of not doing any harm.

* For groceries, we often go to an Albert Heijn, the largest Dutch supermarket chain, founded in 1887; however, there are so many wonderful shops that specialize in fresh daily breads and cheese and daily open air markets that have fresh locally grown organic produce, we have wonderful choices to acquire what our preference is for any given day.

* For a city known for it canals, there are probably twice as many parks, some are very small and a few are larger than Golden State Park.

* The people we know are more informed about what is going on in the US than we are especially in politics. The consensus is Trump is a joke and they don’t want him removed because he provide so much to laugh about. Well, at least a couple said that.

* Amsterdam is a lot more than museums, red lights, coffee shops and canals. The population is 851,373 with the metropolitan area having 2,410,960. Tourism is BIG. There are 4.63 million international visitors annually and this is excluding the 16 million day trippers visiting the city every year.

* Amsterdam is in one of 12 provinces called North Holland. There is a South Holland and 10 others. So, the country is called the Netherlands, not Holland.

* The Kingdom of the Netherlands has been an independent monarchy since 16 March 1815, but its one-time sovereign provinces have intermittently been "governed" by members of the House of Orange-Nassau and the House of Nassau from 1559 to 1747.

* I know I have been Dutch in a past lifetime. It`s all too familiar.

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#2 Post by brigcampbell » October 31st, 2017, 1:59 pm

Excellent write up.

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#3 Post by CliftonD » October 31st, 2017, 2:32 pm

Ah, was just there last weekend for my bachelor party. What a beautiful city - will definitely be back!
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#4 Post by Blake Brown » October 31st, 2017, 4:43 pm

CliftonD wrote:Ah, was just there last weekend for my bachelor party. What a beautiful city - will definitely be back!
What a great place to do a bachelor party. You had to have nothing but FUN.
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#5 Post by Andrew Kotowski » October 31st, 2017, 11:33 pm

Truly one of my favorite cities. I’m fortunate to visit it every other month, at least for the foreseeable future. Nothing short of amazing to consider how much the food scene has changed since my first visit 10 years ago.
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#6 Post by Blake Brown » November 1st, 2017, 9:30 am

Andrew Kotowski wrote:Truly one of my favorite cities. I’m fortunate to visit it every other month, at least for the foreseeable future. Nothing short of amazing to consider how much the food scene has changed since my first visit 10 years ago.
And Andrew, I`ve been going regularly for over 15 years and seen even more changes in the food scene. Even places that are obscure and off the beaten path have really good food. Now it seems the wine scene has taken a more serious leap. All good.
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#7 Post by Neal.Mollen » November 1st, 2017, 9:43 am

I spent only a few days there, and that was decades ago, but I loved what I saw. We have been talking about gong for ages. We really just need to do it.
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#8 Post by Blake Brown » November 1st, 2017, 10:05 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:I spent only a few days there, and that was decades ago, but I loved what I saw. We have been talking about gong for ages. We really just need to do it.
And before you do Neal, I`d be happy to give some suggestions. Feel free
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#9 Post by Ian Sutton » November 1st, 2017, 11:49 am

Dutch often considered a tough language to learn, so they've ended up being better linguists than most. That said, I recall someone saying ~ 30 years ago that there were many jobs where they wouldn't employ you if you hadn't learnt Dutch to a good proficiency level.

The city of freedom does create a lot for tourists to think about, and I always recommend people to visit the red light district to make their own mind up - I wouldn't want to lead their thinking as to whether it was a good or bad way of handling the sex industry.

We do like the leafy suburban area around PC Hoofstraat, but there again we're happier away from the crowds / hubbub. Wider than that, I've found Amsterdam as a city that really rewards some advance prep, as there are a multitude of cuisines, some fantastic specialist shops and plenty of interest away from the centre. It does take a little thought though, as even with a good tram system, it can take time to get around.

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#10 Post by Ian Sutton » November 1st, 2017, 12:36 pm

A news piece that somewhat highlights the unique problems that mass tourism brings to Amsterdam - at times very much a victim of a reputation that the locals often feel uncomfortable about.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41830304
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#11 Post by Andrew Kotowski » November 1st, 2017, 10:18 pm

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Neal.Mollen wrote:I spent only a few days there, and that was decades ago, but I loved what I saw. We have been talking about gong for ages. We really just need to do it.
And before you do Neal, I`d be happy to give some suggestions. Feel free
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#12 Post by Neal.Mollen » November 2nd, 2017, 5:17 am

Neither of you mention the hash. Odd.

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#13 Post by Mike Cohen » November 2nd, 2017, 9:01 am

Andrew Kotowski wrote:Truly one of my favorite cities. I’m fortunate to visit it every other month, at least for the foreseeable future. Nothing short of amazing to consider how much the food scene has changed since my first visit 10 years ago.
I was there this past August with my wife and two teenage daughters as well as my parents and in-laws. We had a wonderful time as the city is beautiful and easy to walk. The museums are top notch and there are a number of fun neighborhoods to walk around in.

My two quibbles...first, the food scene was disappointing to me, especially when compared to other major European cities. Had a really fun meal at Blauw (sp?) which was Indonesian and enjoyed the pancakes and crepes, but in general I was underwhelmed by the food. Second, the beer scene was just abominable.

That said, it's a pretty spectacular place to visit.

And, Blake's post and the follow ups are really enjoyable to read.

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#14 Post by Blake Brown » November 2nd, 2017, 11:06 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:Neither of you mention the hash. Odd.

Thanks to you both for the encouragement, and Blake, for the offer.
Before we go to pot, we can hash this over later on Neal.
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#15 Post by Blake Brown » November 2nd, 2017, 11:19 am

Mike Cohen wrote:
Andrew Kotowski wrote:Truly one of my favorite cities. I’m fortunate to visit it every other month, at least for the foreseeable future. Nothing short of amazing to consider how much the food scene has changed since my first visit 10 years ago.
I was there this past August with my wife and two teenage daughters as well as my parents and in-laws. We had a wonderful time as the city is beautiful and easy to walk. The museums are top notch and there are a number of fun neighborhoods to walk around in.

My two quibbles...first, the food scene was disappointing to me, especially when compared to other major European cities. Had a really fun meal at Blauw (sp?) which was Indonesian and enjoyed the pancakes and crepes, but in general I was underwhelmed by the food. Second, the beer scene was just abominable.

That said, it's a pretty spectacular place to visit.

And, Blake's post and the follow ups are really enjoyable to read.
Mike, one needs to connect with locals for turn ons for dining out. Actually, there are so many good places, it just takes getting some direction from those who can lead you to your preferred type cuisine.

Re the beer scene, I drink Belgiun beer when there in lieu of Dutch beer or much wine [and I`m a wine geek]. My neighbourhood bar/ restaurant features many Belgium imports, some are exclusive to the owner for the country. It`s de Engelbewaarder on Kloveniersburgwal which is centrally located in the Centrum. Fabulous choices on tap, really good fresh and mostly organic Dutch food at reasonable prices and great people on both sides of the bar. My favourite beer is the unfiltered Palm. Check it out
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#16 Post by Ian Sutton » November 2nd, 2017, 3:55 pm

Certainly some fantastic beer bars, though perhaps more out in the 'burbs than the centre? There's always the long-established beer shop in the centre (Bier Konig?). On cricket tour there almost 3 decades ago, I took great delight in introducing the locals in Utrecht to the charm of wheat beer, which was in their club bar, but they'd never tried. Amusingly they thought it was brilliant, berating themselves for ignoring it for so long.

Dope/Hash (and other drugs)? That's the other part of the liberal attitudes, where visitors should make their own mind up. Not something that's ever appealed to me, though I've visited 2-3 with friends, though to be honest I found them dull, grungy and uninteresting, though if your only reason to be there is the dope, then I guess the surroundings are less important and to a degree you 'make your own ambiance'. I've been shocked and felt quite angry at the occasions where hard drugs sales are openly touted in the street. Although dope doesn't interest me, I'm quite relaxed about friends being into it, and the calming effect makes a counterpoint to the effect beer has on some people. However I was shocked to see Heroin & Cocaine openly touted. Police attitudes do change, and I'm aware there have been crackdowns (back in the day they were arguing it was a social issue not a police issue, but they seemed to realise that wasn't a viable position).

Not mentioned initially, because it was clear that quite a lot of locals were rather fed up of drug tourism and the seedy reputation it gave their city. There is much more to the city than that and the red light district, though viewing the city as a whole would include them in the landscape.
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#17 Post by Blake Brown » November 2nd, 2017, 7:07 pm

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Re the hard drug scene, I`ve seen very little of the in your face, outlandish confrontation of this the last few visits. According to my local friends, this has been more policed and enforced. Not once in 30 days did we encounter a proposition and since our apartment is close to the red light district, we`re in the hood where it has been prevalent. Me thinks it`s becoming a lesser issue.

In fact, it`s almost a non issue as I have returned in April 2018, walked the streets in question and absolutely no hint of a problem. Does it exist, most certainly. As with any major city, be aware and alert and careful with belongings. Do not flaunt jewlery/ extravagance.

The biggest issue is with the tourists. Groups of guys from the UK, Germany and the like get drunk, stoned, loud, confrontational and unruly.
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#18 Post by Ian Sutton » November 3rd, 2017, 12:38 pm

Blake Brown wrote:Re the hard drug scene, I`ve seen very little of the in your face, outlandish confrontation of this the last few visits. According to my location friends, this has been more policed and enforced. Not once in 30 days did we encounter a proposition and our since our apartment is close to the red light district, we`re in the hood where it has been prevalent. Me thinks it`s becoming a lesser issue.
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#19 Post by Chris Blum » February 6th, 2018, 9:27 am

Thoughts on an apartment rental for a week vs a hotel? Also neighborhoods?
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#20 Post by Mark Cochard » February 6th, 2018, 10:08 am

Chris Blum wrote:Thoughts on an apartment rental for a week vs a hotel? Also neighborhoods?
We stayed at this apartment for a week on Prinsengracht http://bit.ly/2BZ3fPo

Close to the Van Gogh and Rijksmuseum. Two tram lines are a block away 2 coffee shops right down the street.

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#21 Post by Blake Brown » February 6th, 2018, 10:27 am

Chris Blum wrote:Thoughts on an apartment rental for a week vs a hotel? Also neighborhoods?
First, I prefer to be in the Centrum of Amsterdam which is where most of the action is. One can be close to the Red Light District as an example and still be in a classy neighbourhood so it comes down to the specific place be it hotel or apt. Hotels are relatively expensive compared to apts and in most instances would not have kitchen facilities which is pertinent for those who want to do some dining in.

There are many websites to list for lodging choices. I recommend doing so well in advance of a planned trip. Houseboats are also an options. Be careful in this category because they can be noisy if on a busy canal, chilly, have limited ceiling height and small bathroom, bedroom and kitchen areas. Some are like palaces.

Obviously, some neighbourhoods are more quieter that others and there are buildings within neighbourhoods that offer more peace and quiet. Get clear feedback.

Central Amsterdam can have loud and long nights especially on weekends and special holidays. Stay away from busy streets, bars, etc if you desire to have a restful sleep.

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#22 Post by K Krahenbuhl » February 6th, 2018, 4:39 pm

Chris Blum wrote:Thoughts on an apartment rental for a week vs a hotel? Also neighborhoods?
I stayed at the Kimpton De Witt recently and enjoyed it very much.
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#23 Post by Blake Brown » April 18th, 2018, 1:07 pm

Starting my 3rd of 3 weeks this visit, I lucked out with a huge shift in weather upon arrival from cold and windy to warm and windy. Today it was around 75F. My lined trench coat, ski hat, gloves and neck gator are stashed away for repacking.

I thought this would be a great time to be here when Spring is happening. The trees were bare when I arrived and now there is green on all with some almost half way bloomed out, in just 2 weeks. Residents are planting flowers daily. The canals are full of boats, people are wearing shorts and short sleeved shirts. Skate boards are replacing bikes [just a little]. Spirits are up and bodies are colouring. Spring is definitely in the air.

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#24 Post by Jay $$ Winton » April 18th, 2018, 2:32 pm

Never figured out why those ladies in the windows kept opening and closing their curtains. Seeing The Night Watch from a foot away before stepping back is truly unforgettable.
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#25 Post by Blake Brown » April 21st, 2018, 6:37 am

I just posted tasting notes and photos of dinner wines at Cafe de Klepel in Wine Talk. I did not include this photo which is typical of so many places in Amsterdam where one is greeted with a magnificent flower arrangement which is changed out often enough to be fresh and colourful [and photographical]. I`m guessing this is 8 feet tall.
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#26 Post by Craig G » April 21st, 2018, 6:39 pm

Chris Blum wrote:Thoughts on an apartment rental for a week vs a hotel? Also neighborhoods?
I went with my younger daughter several years ago and we stayed on a houseboat. It was fantastic. I think we went through VRBO at the time but I would check AirBnB these days. I really prefer AirBnB to hotels. They are so much more comfortable and individualistic and usually similar or cheaper price. Our houseboat location was quite good - close to the street where Tempo Doeloe is.

We loved Amsterdam. The Van Gogh Museum is my favorite museum anywhere. We took a fun day tour outside the city with one of the guides who was highly rated on TripAdvisor. We had great frites and a bunch of fun dinners. Our only regret was that the herring stand we had planned to go to at the end of the trip was closed on our last day. Better planning next time.

We love traveling as a family but have also split up and taken just one of the kids for quite a few trips like this. It’s very fun and a different type of experience when you don’t have to coordinate the whole family.
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#27 Post by Blake Brown » April 22nd, 2018, 12:59 pm

During my great night at Cafe de Klepel, I got a tip from the main guy to try a relatively new restaurant that is also wine savvy called 4850. Today, I walked about 30 minutes from my apartment in the centrum to it and had a look and a chat with one of their 3 somms.

I`m impressed at least with the wine list and inventory, much of which is not yet on their lists. They have a few of a lot of different wines from a lot of different wine regions. Most bottles are of younger vintages and they are attempting to add some aged wines. Lots of familiar producers such as Dujac, Leflaive, Lafon, Anne Gros, Donnhoff, Rostaing, Lopez de Heredia, Artadi, Pehu Simonet.

They have been open for 3 1/2 months and are featured as a coffee and wine bar. Food choices seemed limited, but sufficient for those who go there for coffee and/or wine.

The location is near Oosterpark. Here`s a link for a recent review- http://petitepassport.com/2018/03/4850-amsterdam/
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#28 Post by Andrew Kotowski » April 22nd, 2018, 1:06 pm

Will check it out. Unfortunate we won’t meet up this trip for you :/ Likely down again early-mid May to work on my transition plan!
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#29 Post by Blake Brown » April 22nd, 2018, 1:43 pm

I was about to text you and then this. So you got the message. This is really more about the wine than food and wine. At least that’s my impression. I’ll check it out when I return in the fall. Let me know your thoughts if you go beforehand.

BTW, they have the same Rostaing La Landonne that de Klepel has/had.
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#30 Post by mark rudner » May 10th, 2018, 9:23 am

going to take a quick trip there in september
restaurant advice would be greatly appreciated.
we will likely be a group of 8 and do not need 3* michelin
casual would be great

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#31 Post by Mark Cochard » May 10th, 2018, 9:31 am

Enjoyed these two Restaurant Breda http://www.breda-amsterdam.com/en/and Restaurant Johannes http://www.restaurantjohannes.nl/en/

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#32 Post by Blake Brown » May 10th, 2018, 11:55 am

mark rudner wrote:going to take a quick trip there in september
restaurant advice would be greatly appreciated.
we will likely be a group of 8 and do not need 3* michelin
casual would be great
The question is do you want a wine savvy rest. or just cuisine and if the latter, your preferences? Also, location is pertinent for convenience, so if you know where you will be staying, I can probably suggest a few.
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#33 Post by mark rudner » May 10th, 2018, 5:37 pm

thanks blake, i was hoping you'd chime in.
i'll get my facts together and then come back and ask more specific questions.
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#34 Post by mark rudner » May 31st, 2018, 4:50 pm

ok getting there with plans
will only be 4 people
we love wine but not the reason for dining
only 1 adventurous eater out of the 4
hotel is the hoxton which appears to be relatively central
sunday the 16th is a big bday dinner for my buddy so something fun is a must
not sure if any of this helps!

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#35 Post by Blake Brown » June 2nd, 2018, 11:27 am

mark rudner wrote:ok getting there with plans
will only be 4 people
we love wine but not the reason for dining
only 1 adventurous eater out of the 4
hotel is the hoxton which appears to be relatively central
sunday the 16th is a big bday dinner for my buddy so something fun is a must
not sure if any of this helps!
Got it Mark.

First, your hotel is a good one and centrally located as you know. It`s near Dam Square and the Palace as well as where the major action is which could be a place to avoid depending upon your level of energy preferences.

Here's some suggestions: for shopping, you are near Kalverstraat which is one of the best of all areas for shopping in Adam. Also, for higher end, unique stuff, go to the 9 streets which is also near your hotel, but the opposite direction in the Jordaan. Here's a link: http://www.theninestreets.com

For restaurants, the birthday dinner choice could be Greetje for traditional Dutch cuisine or Krua Thai Classic for the best Thai food in the city. You can check them out on line for appeal including pricing.

Other restaurants that I enjoy include blauw on Acterburgwal 99[not to be confused with others similarly named], Open, on the water at Westerdoksplein 20 modern, Cafe de Klepel, Mata Hari, Gebr. Hartering and Cafe Daalder. Some of these are wine centric and also pricy. All are in walking distance. Definitely look them up for your personal desires and make reservations. Cafe de Klepel required reservations 2-3 weeks out when I was there in October.

There are many more restaurants including the touristy Pancake Bakery on Prinsengracht which I like and go to often for the true version called pannekoeken, but have to withstand long lines in many instances. Do the frites at Vleminckx, just off Kalverstraat.

Of all the museums, the biggies obviously include Van Gogh and Rijksmuseum, but the one I love is the Amsterdam Museum which chronicles the history of the city and the magnificent engineering feats to control land and water as well as build this glorious city from the pilings up.

And then there is my go to place called a Stam Cafe in Dutch, de Engelbewaarder. Great beers on tap and great food at a reasonable price with a clientele mix of artists, students and professors from the U of A and many fine, peaceful locals of all ages. It`s casual, has a friendly vibe and on a canal, owner by a gentle giant and big hearted guy who attracts dedicated servers who stay for years on end, many with doctorates and masters degrees. Klovenieersburgwal 59.

Should you desire more info, I`m happy to oblige.
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#36 Post by G Kramer » June 3rd, 2018, 8:24 am

Helpful thread. Any recommendations for moderately priced dinners that offer choices of appetizers and entrees? A lot of places I am looking at seem to have fixed menus. Looking for Dutch, perhaps Nordic or pan-Euro cuisine. Prefer spots with good wine or beer selections.

Thanks.
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#37 Post by Blake Brown » June 3rd, 2018, 8:45 am

G Kramer wrote:Helpful thread. Any recommendations for moderately priced dinners that offer choices of appetizers and entrees? A lot of places I am looking at seem to have fixed menus. Prefer spots with good wine or beer selections.

Thanks.
Two in my recent post may work for your preference: Mata Hari and de Engelbewaarder. There are numerous small places that can work and I'm thinking on it and hopefully can come up with some names.
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#38 Post by G Kramer » June 3rd, 2018, 8:54 am

Thanks for quick response. Edited above for cuisine preferences.

de Engelbewaarder looks like it might be a bit more casual than I seek.
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#39 Post by Blake Brown » June 3rd, 2018, 10:20 am

G Kramer wrote:Thanks for quick response. Edited above for cuisine preferences.

de Engelbewaarder looks like it might be a bit more casual than I seek.
Try Restaurant d'Vijff Vlieghen. Yes, the Engel is very casual.
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#40 Post by G Kramer » June 3rd, 2018, 12:07 pm

Blake Brown wrote:
G Kramer wrote:Thanks for quick response. Edited above for cuisine preferences.

de Engelbewaarder looks like it might be a bit more casual than I seek.
Try Restaurant d'Vijff Vlieghen. Yes, the Engel is very casual.
Thanks, looks like a promising choice. How’s the wine?

I assume Klepel is set menu.

Do you know Van de Kaart?
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#41 Post by Blake Brown » June 3rd, 2018, 3:50 pm

G Kramer wrote:
Blake Brown wrote:
G Kramer wrote:Thanks for quick response. Edited above for cuisine preferences.

de Engelbewaarder looks like it might be a bit more casual than I seek.
Try Restaurant d'Vijff Vlieghen. Yes, the Engel is very casual.
Thanks, looks like a promising choice. How’s the wine? I WAS THERE A LONG TIME AGO AND VAGUELY REMEMBER THERE WERE DECENT CHOICES, BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT OF CAFE DE KLEPEL, GEBR, HARTERING, CAFE DAALDER.

I assume Klepel is set menu. YOU CAN ORDER ALA CARTE

Do you know Van de Kaart?
NO
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#42 Post by mark rudner » June 4th, 2018, 7:37 am

blake
great and thorough response
i will look up all of them and base my trip on your suggestions
that museum sounds great too. been to the others years ago anyway.
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#43 Post by Blake Brown » July 13th, 2018, 11:04 am

Here's a link for some of the incredible bridge houses being used as a hotel suites:

https://www.afar.com/magazine/amsterdam ... Newsletter
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#44 Post by Andrew Kotowski » July 13th, 2018, 2:13 pm

FWIW - I completely agree with the Klepel and Gebr Hartering recs. Food is a bit more limited at Klepel, but both have fantastic wine lists that are reasonably priced. Still think about hitting that 2007 Rostaing La Landonne for ~110 euros at Klepel.
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#45 Post by Blake Brown » July 13th, 2018, 4:33 pm

Andrew Kotowski wrote:FWIW - I completely agree with the Klepel and Gebr Hartering recs. Food is a bit more limited at Klepel, but both have fantastic wine lists that are reasonably priced. Still think about hitting that 2007 Rostaing La Landonne for ~110 euros at Klepel.
Hope they still have it when I return in late October. Maybe we can share a bottle plus some other goodies Andrew. I`ll be there for at least 3 weeks.
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#46 Post by Andrew Kotowski » July 13th, 2018, 7:54 pm

Bought a house back in the US yesterday :). We’ll have to meet for an NCAA game instead!
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#47 Post by Blake Brown » July 14th, 2018, 8:43 am

Andrew Kotowski wrote:Bought a house back in the US yesterday :). We’ll have to meet for an NCAA game instead!
Wowza. Sorry we never connected in Amsterdam. Where are you relocating?
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#48 Post by Sh@n A » July 16th, 2018, 7:13 pm

Was just in Amsterdam for the long weekend.

Favorite restaurant by far was Kaagman & Kortekaas. Great food and all locals. Offers wine corkage in a city without! Also has an interesting wine list and some nice aged Bordeaux in their “vip” drawer. We had a 1996 brenaire ducru and thought the acidity was great match to the food at hand.
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#49 Post by Blake Brown » July 17th, 2018, 10:31 am

Sh@n A wrote:Was just in Amsterdam for the long weekend.

Favorite restaurant by far was Kaagman & Kortekaas. Great food and all locals. Offers wine corkage in a city without! Also has an interesting wine list and some nice aged Bordeaux in their “vip” drawer. We had a 1996 brenaire ducru and thought the acidity was great match to the food at hand.
New one for me. Appreciate the mention as I`ll be sure to check it out in October. Thanks
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#50 Post by mark rudner » August 24th, 2018, 8:32 am

hi blake
tried for klepel and was denied!
krua the night before looks good though. going to look a little more upscale for what would have been the klepel night (buddy's 60th)

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