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NYC - Burgundy QPR Reds @ Little Frog (Wed 11/28)

#1 Post by Sh@n A » August 21st, 2018, 8:20 pm

NYC - Burgundy QPR Reds @ Little Frog on 86/2nd (Wed 11/28 @ 6:45PM)
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Jay Miller - 1996 Joseph Drouhin Beaune Greves
ScamHi - 1996 Michel Lafarge Beaune Greves
Thomas Rippe - 2006 Girardin Corton Renardes VV
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Champagne: Jay Miller generously stepping up


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Roster Size: Target 9, at least 5
Wine: Aged Village (or 1er), with really rough guide posts of $60-100 bottle. There is no fixed rule on "how aged" something should be. Theme (that was in my head) was to show that you don't need to buy a $100+ bottle for a good Burg, especially if it has some bottle age on it. And then do the separate tasting of 1ers, and then Grand Crus, on future dates.
Stems: TBD
Location: Frog
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#2 Post by Sh@n A » August 21st, 2018, 8:26 pm

Please PM me if you wish to get added/removed to list; this will allow for consistent time stamping in case there is overage.

I defer to groups wishes on Champagne (please post below your preference or donation of a 10th bottle!)
Please send me your wines now or closer to date
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#3 Post by Thomas Rippe » August 22nd, 2018, 7:35 pm

Please add me to this dinner.

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#4 Post by Jay Miller » August 23rd, 2018, 7:32 am

Thanks for organizing! Please put me down for a 1996 Joseph Drouhin Beaune Greves. I just pulled it from storage last night as it was in the same case as some other wines I was pulling and seemed appropriate for the dinner.
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#5 Post by Sh@n A » August 23rd, 2018, 8:04 am

I was asked what the rule for aging would be. To be honest, I didn't have a fixed rule in mind. The general idea (that was in my head) was to show that you don't need to buy a $100+ bottle for a good Burg, and perhaps proving this out with Village level with some amount of undetermined age. And then post the QPR tasting, go into 1er and Grand Cru tastings, to offer comparative experiences (and price points for those who wanted to join).

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#6 Post by Jay Miller » August 23rd, 2018, 8:24 am

Though if we're talking QPR you might want to lower the bottle price level from $60. Though that might be my age speaking.
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#7 Post by J a y H a c k » August 24th, 2018, 9:14 am

More fun. How about

1990 Domaine Joseph Roty Gevrey-Chambertin Les Champs-Chenys?

Hack owns what?! How come it didn't burst into flames being in the same room as all that SQN, Saxum and Scarecrow. I also have two bottles left of 1976 Château de la Maltroye Chassagne-Montrachet Rouge that I bought from Post in Syosset on release in 1978. $6 a bottle, which qualifies as QPR. The last bottle I opened was mostly DOA, but the bottle before that was other worldly and the best red burg I have ever had. It has tons of sediment and does not travel well, so I would not bring it as a primary bottle, but if I can arrange to get it to my office a few weeks in advance without doing a Mollydooker shake, I'll bring it just for fun as a second bottle because I know the other Jay would like to try it.
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#8 Post by Sh@n A » August 24th, 2018, 9:28 am

Jay Miller wrote:
August 23rd, 2018, 8:24 am
Though if we're talking QPR you might want to lower the bottle price level from $60. Though that might be my age speaking.
open to any adjustments. The big flaw in my logic was allowing same dollar cost for purchase and current market value, vs. just going with either or. E.G., a $60 wine purchased 20 years ago would be worth more than $60 today. I am purchasing retail for this one, so my bias was more of current market value (although will try to adjust to what others are bringing as well).

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#9 Post by scamhi » August 25th, 2018, 6:12 am

I'll bring a 96 Michel Lafarge Beaune Greves to pair with the Drouhin
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#10 Post by Greg K » August 26th, 2018, 11:00 pm

Since this will be relatively close to my birthday, I'll bring an oddity I've got lying around - a 79 Mugneret-Gouachon Nuits St. George Les Perdrix. Since it might well be vinegar at this point, I'll also bring a suitable backup [cheers.gif]
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#11 Post by Sh@n A » September 9th, 2018, 9:20 pm

Looking for a new restaurant location...

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#12 Post by Sh@n A » September 14th, 2018, 7:01 am

Was thinking Peking Duck House or North Square.
I'm open to either.

https://www.pekingduckhousenyc.com/midtown
https://northsquareny.com/2015/wp-conte ... g-2018.pdf

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#13 Post by scamhi » September 14th, 2018, 7:39 am

Sh@n A wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 7:01 am
Was thinking Peking Duck House or North Square.
I'm open to either.

https://www.pekingduckhousenyc.com/midtown
https://northsquareny.com/2015/wp-conte ... g-2018.pdf
not a fan of either esp PDH. How about Bite of Hong Kong?
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#14 Post by Sh@n A » September 14th, 2018, 7:42 am

Works for me. Anyone else have a yay or nay vote?

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#15 Post by Chris L » September 14th, 2018, 9:09 am

I am indifferent... All sound fine!
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#16 Post by Sh@n A » September 15th, 2018, 1:06 pm

ScamHi, do you have a contact for the restaurant to arrange (i) stems and (ii) inquire about gluten free options? I just tried calling myself...they couldn't quite understand me on the phone [help.gif]

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#17 Post by Thomas Rippe » September 15th, 2018, 6:29 pm

I'm a big fan of PDH (midtown) but am happy to try anyplace.

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#18 Post by Jay Miller » September 17th, 2018, 5:44 am

For Bite of Hong Kong (or any of the Chinatown options) it’s best to bring our own glasses. The secret to making reservations there is to ask for Michael since he has the best English.

Edited to add: though I think their food (which I love) works better for N. Rhone or Sherry than Burgundy to be honest.
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#19 Post by Dinesh Goyal » September 20th, 2018, 6:00 am

Hey guys

Was wondering if there is still a spot available. I am moving from Sydney to NYC around end Oct and don’t yet have a cellar in NY. But I was thinking of bringing 2011 Mugnier, Jacques-Frederic, Clos de la Marechale

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#20 Post by Sh@n A » September 20th, 2018, 7:26 am

Hi Dinesh -we have 9, so I will add you to the wait list. 11/28 is a ways from now, so wouldn't be surprised if something opened up. Also re the bottle, something to fit the theme better would be great as well (e.g., something with a little more age on it, if that's doable for you).
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#21 Post by Dinesh Goyal » September 21st, 2018, 3:07 am

Thanks a ton. I will ping you when I am in NY

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#22 Post by Sh@n A » September 28th, 2018, 6:13 am

Finalizing terms at Little Frog
http://www.littlefrognyc.com/
Cost will be less and may be able to snag a private room. They also have duck.
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#23 Post by Sh@n A » October 1st, 2018, 1:09 pm

Confirming Little Frog

http://www.littlefrognyc.com/#contact
322 East 86th Street
86th between 1st and 2nd
347-537-5786 x1

Private room
Minimum $50 per person of food and beverage (including mineral water), ex tax-tip
This should run into ~$75/person all-in with tax and tip
1 champagne flute to start, 3 red stems thereafter, possible white stem
We handle wine service

I calculate $90/person all-inclusive
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If everyone orders 1 appetizer ($16), split one duck for a mezze taste ($9), 1 entree ($33), mineral water ($5), and 1/2 a side ($6) = $69 = $89 with tax & tip
So everyone picks an appetizer and entree, the sides and duck will come more family style
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#24 Post by TGigante » October 5th, 2018, 5:43 pm

Regrets that I have to withdraw. Just scheduled for some minor surgery on 11/27.
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#25 Post by Sh@n A » October 9th, 2018, 8:45 am

Thanks for letting us know. That opens up two spots.
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#26 Post by Thomas Rippe » October 9th, 2018, 6:33 pm

Hi, bringing 2010 N. Rossignol Volnay 1er Cru Ronceret.

Will someone bring a white?

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#27 Post by Sh@n A » November 19th, 2018, 4:11 pm

Chris L had to bow out. Hart, are you in?
We lack a champagne although Chris offered to drop his original offer off.
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#28 Post by Hart G » November 20th, 2018, 7:08 am

I *think* I am in but don't want to commit and bow out again. If someone else wants in, s/he should take the spot. I can hopefully let you know for sure by Friday at the latest.
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#29 Post by Sh@n A » November 20th, 2018, 7:12 am

Given how costs seem to run higher each time, best to say $100/person vs. the $90 I outlined above...
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#30 Post by Jay Miller » November 20th, 2018, 7:30 am

Sh@n A wrote:
November 19th, 2018, 4:11 pm
Chris L had to bow out. Hart, are you in?
We lack a champagne although Chris offered to drop his original offer off.
Since the premier cru Burgundy dinner was cancelled I can bring that Champagne for this dinner.

It will be an 04 or 06 Comtes since the Churchill still hasn't arrived.
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#31 Post by Sh@n A » November 25th, 2018, 9:04 am

Hart is back
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#32 Post by Thomas Rippe » November 27th, 2018, 3:42 pm

Bringing 15 Trimbach Riesling VV

2018 Gael Greene column on Little Frog. http://www.insatiable-critic.com/Articl ... eSupport=1

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#33 Post by Sh@n A » November 27th, 2018, 3:44 pm

Thanks for sharing! And the Riesling!
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#34 Post by Sh@n A » November 28th, 2018, 12:36 pm

Spot opened up
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#35 Post by Thomas Rippe » November 29th, 2018, 8:26 am

Thanks to Shon and all for a fine evening.

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#36 Post by Jay Miller » November 29th, 2018, 11:52 am

Thomas Rippe wrote:
November 29th, 2018, 8:26 am
Thanks to Shon and all for a fine evening.
Agreed, fine group of people and wines.
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#37 Post by Greg K » November 29th, 2018, 1:21 pm

Indeed - thanks to Shan to organizing and it was great to see/meet everyone.
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#38 Post by Sh@n A » November 29th, 2018, 1:27 pm

1989 for the win!

I liked the venue and would go back. Two burg stems. Order a la carte. Next time just do charcuterie. Then apps. Then ducks. Still managed to be over budget somehow but at 106, more easy. Unlimited bottles. Private “space”. And cheaper than most other options.
Although that space is really for 8 max.
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