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#1 Post by George Chadwick » August 18th, 2018, 3:20 pm

UPDATED 10/22, changes on attendance but nothing else

This first post is all you need, it is updated.

I'll supply the WS wines, maybe six of them including what looks like a 1979 or so Hacienda del Rio (the original Williams-Selyem venture) (help me Blake Brown re vintage) zinfandel with great fill. I acquired them over several years with unknown provenance so look out brett.

You bring a wine that is either not a dry red, or is a substantially older (pre-2000) American pinot. White wines and bubbles and stickies are fine, any vintage, any country, or an old US pinot. No exceptions because don't screw up our palates for the old gentle WS's.

No need to post what you're bringing.

Strangers welcome.

Bring cash.

Stems: bring your own, or at least a couple. Their glasses would be very good but for the thick rolled rims.

Restaurant Vaso Azzurro on the east end of Castro Street's Restaurant Row in Mountain View. Park in city garage on that street for free. Another free garage right behind the restaurant. Tuesday Oct. 23 6:30 PM.

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Wes and Eric are out. We are at 14.
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#2 Post by Craig G » August 18th, 2018, 6:09 pm

I’ll join if it’s in LG and I’m in the country.
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#3 Post by Wes Barton » August 18th, 2018, 6:29 pm

Interested, but can't commit since it's in the middle of harvest season.
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#4 Post by Alan Rath » August 18th, 2018, 8:53 pm

Craig G wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 6:09 pm
I’ll join if it’s in LG and I’m in the country.
I'll join if it's in LG and he's out of the country. But not if it's out of the country and he's in LG.
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#5 Post by Yao C » August 18th, 2018, 10:55 pm

You’re in for a treat; had a ‘97 WS a week ago and it was in a lovely place
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#6 Post by Brian Tuite » August 19th, 2018, 7:03 am

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#7 Post by Larry Stein » August 19th, 2018, 8:46 am

I’m interested, but can’t commit yet. I can bring a bottle of German Riesling from the 2001-4 vintage, if that would work.

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#8 Post by Craig G » August 19th, 2018, 2:54 pm

Alan Rath wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 8:53 pm
Craig G wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 6:09 pm
I’ll join if it’s in LG and I’m in the country.
I'll join if it's in LG and he's out of the country. But not if it's out of the country and he's in LG.
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#9 Post by George Chadwick » August 19th, 2018, 4:45 pm

Yao C wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 10:55 pm
You’re in for a treat; had a ‘97 WS a week ago and it was in a lovely place
Stop bragging about your dining room.

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#10 Post by Yao C » August 19th, 2018, 7:16 pm

Come by sometime; equal opportunity safe space for both AFWE and rocket fuel enthusiasts
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#11 Post by George Chadwick » August 19th, 2018, 9:52 pm

Looks like a lovely place to me

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#12 Post by Sean_S » August 22nd, 2018, 10:14 pm

Of course George.... Sounds Fantastic
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#13 Post by Eric Lundblad » August 22nd, 2018, 11:12 pm

I'm also interested, and have a quite old Chalone Pinot to throw into the ring. But it's crush, and its a long ways to drive on what will probably be a school night.
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#14 Post by George Chadwick » August 23rd, 2018, 7:51 am

Wes and Eric when do things calm down?

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#15 Post by Wes Barton » August 23rd, 2018, 8:02 pm

George Chadwick wrote:
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Wes and Eric when do things calm down?
Late October, usually.
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#16 Post by George Chadwick » August 24th, 2018, 4:05 pm

Since the Peninsula Monday group is meeting 9/24 plus harvest, I might postpone this to mid October. Anyone have a strong preference?

FYI anyone reading this is welcome if you RSVP, bring cash, no surprise friends in tow, and follow the wine bringing rules.

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#17 Post by Ian Alper » August 24th, 2018, 5:13 pm

I would love to make this if I can. End of October would be great. I promise to follow the rules!

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#18 Post by George Chadwick » August 25th, 2018, 1:09 pm

This is starting to look like end of October.

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#19 Post by Eric Lundblad » August 25th, 2018, 10:42 pm

Yeah, things will be done by end of Oct. Looking forward to it!
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#20 Post by Ian Alper » September 27th, 2018, 9:00 pm

I would really like to try and carve this out in next months schedule so I can make it. Any updates or thoughts on when this might take place if it is still being considered?

Thanks.

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#21 Post by George Chadwick » September 27th, 2018, 11:40 pm

Coincidentally today I started checking others' schedules. Right now,all I have is:
Weeknight
Late October
Los Gatos Golden Triangle, Mountain View Vaso Azzurro, or West Oakland Stay Gold

Los Gatos the frontrunner

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#22 Post by ERPark » September 28th, 2018, 1:26 am

I vote for Stay Gold. No particular reason......
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#23 Post by AndyK » September 28th, 2018, 8:37 am

I'm very interested, but can only join if it's in Mountain View. Need Caltrain access to get back to SF...
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#24 Post by e chin » September 28th, 2018, 9:04 am

I'm interested if it's in MV and Eric brings a Chalone. I had one from the 70's once and thoroughly enjoyed it.
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#25 Post by Alan Rath » September 28th, 2018, 10:05 am

Still interested, open to any of the venues, though my preference would be MV. As for dates, I'll be away 24-31, so that might eliminate me anyway.
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#26 Post by Wes Barton » September 28th, 2018, 11:27 am

I vote MV.
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#27 Post by Larry Stein » September 28th, 2018, 11:29 am

MV would work better for me, too.

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#28 Post by Scott B » September 28th, 2018, 11:49 am

Very interested! Ditto on MV working for me, but Oakland could also work.
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#29 Post by George Chadwick » September 28th, 2018, 6:18 pm

Given Alan's schedule: Anyone object to Tuesday either October 23 or Election Night November 6 Mountain View at Vaso Azzurro? Years ago (15?) I hosted a Brunello thing there and I've been thrice since and a month ago they said we'd be welcome. We might have to limit apps and desserts to keep the cost down but I'll ask re corkage. Street parking is difficult but I hope the city garage on Castro is free.

Oakland Stay Gold is BBQ. I'm thinking some day with zin and syrah and CdP and merlot and whites. The owner Jayson has a killer cellar of his own and would join us when he could. He hosted Eric Lundblad to pour his wines. Really sketchy area but appearances deceive. But not the food for old gentle pinot.

So: 10/23 or 11/6?

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#30 Post by Wes Barton » September 28th, 2018, 6:36 pm

Yes, the city garage is free. Our city doesn't work to deter customers from frequenting our businesses.

I'd prefer the 23rd.
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#31 Post by George Chadwick » September 28th, 2018, 6:49 pm

Vaso Azzuro says: "Either date works for 10 to 12 people. It will be an honor, a pleasure, and lots of fun."

I'm hurt they obviously don't remember me.

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#32 Post by Alan Rath » September 28th, 2018, 6:58 pm

My vote is for election night. Last year's was a lot of fun pileon But I will do the 23rd if that's favored by the group.
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#33 Post by George Chadwick » September 28th, 2018, 7:12 pm

Yes let's stare at our phones all evening in shock.

Update: Because they liked my previous dinner there and know who I am, slight corkage deal for us, $15 per bottle.

I'll wait a few days before picking which date.

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#34 Post by Larry Stein » September 28th, 2018, 8:19 pm

Oct. 23. I'd prefer to NOT have it on Election Day. I don't want to repeat our 2016 offline.

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#35 Post by Alan Rath » September 28th, 2018, 10:55 pm

You guys are no fun at all. Besides, there's not much mystery: I can tell you right now who will be president and governor ;)
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#36 Post by Craig G » September 29th, 2018, 1:20 am

George, you caved too easily on location. Make the other guys drive once in a while. And free corkage.
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#37 Post by AndyK » September 29th, 2018, 9:03 am

I prefer 10/23, but either could work
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#38 Post by George Chadwick » September 29th, 2018, 10:45 am

Craig G wrote:
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George, you caved too easily on location. Make the other guys drive once in a while. And free corkage.
I hear you fellow Los Gatan and Eric's going to have to take the Dunbarton. But there is an additional factor of my longtime wish to return for an event someday at Vaso Azzurro in particular. I will be disappointed if they don't undercount our bottles. Any other Mt. View restaurant would have lost to Golden Triangle.

Also I'm not sure Golden Triangle will be around much longer. But as long as it's there I intend to arrange more dinners there. I can check Return to Vaso off my bucket list, nostalgia wines, nostalgia venue. I'll bring an old WS to the next dinner you can attend. Please drop the dogs off by 7 am thanks.

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#39 Post by Alan Rath » September 29th, 2018, 12:26 pm

Craig G wrote:
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George, you caved too easily on location. Make the other guys drive once in a while. And free corkage.
Just for the record, I drive every time. You guys keep rejecting my offer of Fremont Sizzler. Pretty sure I can talk them into unlimited tater tots, if that's not an attraction no other restaurant can offer I don't know what is.
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#40 Post by ChrisStags » October 1st, 2018, 12:22 pm

Count me in. Let me know when and where.

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#41 Post by George Chadwick » October 1st, 2018, 2:00 pm

Among those who have replied re date, it's unanimous for Oct. 23.

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#42 Post by Scott B » October 1st, 2018, 2:14 pm

Oct. 23rd is good for me. Looking forward to this....
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#43 Post by Eric Lundblad » October 2nd, 2018, 9:37 pm

I'm in, if there's still room. I get the bart down and ride over with Alan...Yea Alan.

How big a pour does Craig's dogs get?
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#44 Post by Alan Rath » October 2nd, 2018, 11:33 pm

Can you ask the restaurant if they allow outside tater tots?
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#45 Post by e chin » October 3rd, 2018, 12:13 am

Can’t do the 23rd. Enjoy.
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#46 Post by Sean_S » October 5th, 2018, 9:34 pm

George I'm in!!!!

Thanks for putting this together. Gonna be great.
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#47 Post by George Chadwick » October 12th, 2018, 5:44 pm

See first post for details, I keep updating it. I'm going to the restaurant tonight and I'll check out their stemware but I suggest bring your own.

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#48 Post by George Chadwick » October 14th, 2018, 6:19 pm

Ok I checked. Their pinot glasses are a good shape and size but they have rolled rims instead of cut rims so I'd bring your own and maybe use one of theirs eg.

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#49 Post by Larry Stein » October 14th, 2018, 6:53 pm

Looks like we’ll have up to 14 people. I’m wondering if we should use measuring beakers for pouring? With that many folks, it’s pretty easy to take too large a pour.

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#50 Post by Craig G » October 14th, 2018, 8:01 pm

Please put me on the wait list. It looks like I’ll be in town.
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