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#51 Post by George Chadwick » June 15th, 2018, 10:12 am

Very interested but I haven't responded because a week later I have my annual trip and I might be jammed.

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#52 Post by ATaylor » June 15th, 2018, 10:18 am

George Chadwick wrote:Very interested but I haven't responded because a week later I have my annual trip and I might be jammed.
Think of it as your pre-vacation send-off!
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#53 Post by Wes Barton » June 15th, 2018, 4:35 pm

George Chadwick wrote:Very interested but I haven't responded because a week later I have my annual trip and I might be jammed.
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#54 Post by ATaylor » June 19th, 2018, 11:22 am

So are we doing the 2004/2011 Burgs or the usual potpourri?
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#55 Post by Yao C » June 19th, 2018, 4:47 pm

I don't own any '04/'11 reds but would love to see a little bit of a theme. How about just burgs in general?
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#56 Post by George Chadwick » June 20th, 2018, 12:16 am

Please add me to a waitlist. I have a great 2004 red Burg but it is buried.

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#57 Post by Yao C » June 20th, 2018, 9:58 am

Glad you'll be joining us :)
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#58 Post by Larry Stein » June 20th, 2018, 10:07 am

I'm bringing 2011 Chablis 1er cru “Fourchaume”, Gerard et Lilian Duplessis and 2005 Morgon “Cote du Py”, Foillard.

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#59 Post by Mike Grammer » June 20th, 2018, 12:59 pm

Sorry I'll be missing this one by a couple of weeks---will be in SF on July 14 (OL thread likely going up very soon). Hope you all have fun!
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#60 Post by dteng » June 20th, 2018, 5:45 pm

Ok I removed one person, and then added George.

Let’s just do Burgs and whatever without necessary concentration on 2004/2011 but you’re welcome to bring those.
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#61 Post by George Chadwick » June 20th, 2018, 11:22 pm

Not sure what I'll bring.
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#62 Post by Yao C » June 21st, 2018, 4:37 pm

I'll bring a 1999 Prince Florent de Merode Corton Clos du Roi
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#63 Post by George Chadwick » June 25th, 2018, 10:22 pm

Eclectic wines. Three from the 1980's up through the dreaded 2011 Burgs.
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#64 Post by George Chadwick » June 26th, 2018, 2:00 pm

I loved this dinner, room, food. I felt there was room literally and figuratively to enjoy the wines. One can bring a couple of blind wines and not have them take up the table. I look forward to going there again. I felt I could jump from wine to wine easily. I felt conversation was easy because of the spacing. My vegetable soup and red beet gnocchi were everything for which I could have asked in any restaurant.

I felt almost OK to drive at the end of the evening but I had my motel room down the street, so decision made. What I did not factor in my assessment was that after a half hour, well-earned fatigue hit along with the wine, which would have been a bad driving combination. Instead of being halfway home on the road with another half hour plus to go, I was in bed, slept great, got much more sleep than if I had driven home. A reasonably priced motel in walking distance is another reason for me to want to return to this restaurant.

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#65 Post by Larry Stein » June 26th, 2018, 2:04 pm

Agree on the setting! It was easy to walk around the table to chat and grab bottles that hadn't made it down to the others.

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#66 Post by George Chadwick » June 26th, 2018, 2:09 pm

Larry Stein wrote:Agree on the setting! It was easy to walk around the table to chat and grab bottles that hadn't made it down to the others.
That Morgon was my WOTN for exceeding expectations. How were your and Sandy's dishes?

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#67 Post by Larry Stein » June 26th, 2018, 3:24 pm

Sandi's pasta wasn't as good as when she's had that dish previously. It's one of her favorites at Divino. She said it was drier than usual and had fewer peas. My pasta was fine (linguini with morels), although it would have been less interesting without the fresh Parmesan grated on it. I really liked my octopus app. and she, the beet salad.

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#68 Post by Craig G » June 26th, 2018, 3:38 pm

I loved the grilled calamari/white bean/arugula salad, and the pappardelle Bolognese was very good.

The MI Charmes was weird. My last bit seemed to have lost the sulfur aroma, but I have no idea where it is going. It also has a bit of a syrupy thing that bothered me.

My favorite wines were the 99 de Merode Corton and the 88 Pavelot Guettes. Sleeper was the 11 Chevillon NSG VV.

Alan’s description of the 04 Corton matches a taste I had very late, after I had a few bites of dessert. At that time it seemed very hard, but earlier I thought it was fine. I’m not sure if it was just me palate or if the wine changed.
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#69 Post by Alan Rath » June 26th, 2018, 4:16 pm

Dan and I also loved that calamari app. My pasta was fine, but nothing special. Loved the space, for a crowd of this size. But I will vote to retain Sole in the rotation, as I think their food is every bit as good as Divino's, and for a smaller group the venue is just fine. We can go there on nights when Andrew is away, and we're a smaller group neener
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#70 Post by George Chadwick » June 26th, 2018, 10:09 pm

Alan Rath wrote:Dan and I also loved that calamari app. My pasta was fine, but nothing special. Loved the space, for a crowd of this size. But I will vote to retain Sole in the rotation, as I think their food is every bit as good as Divino's, and for a smaller group the venue is just fine. We can go there on nights when Andrew is away, and we're a smaller group neener
I greatly prefer Sole when the table runs the length of the restaurant as when CFu was there, rather than the width as when I brought the tin robots from Beauxmonts.

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#71 Post by George Chadwick » June 26th, 2018, 11:43 pm

The person in this photo attended the dinner last night. It is a guide to the Shawangunks, a great climbing area in New York.
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#72 Post by ATaylor » June 27th, 2018, 12:45 pm

My WOTN was definitely the 88 Richebourg, especially the nose and then also enjoyed the 90 Rossignol in mag. I didn't go back to either of the wines that were on the shorter end of the comments...though it seems they did come from both later in the evening and also after the reveals....I didn't hear anything bad during Craig's 20 questions moment.

Early the MI did show some reduction and must have fallen apart later on. On pop and pour there was not anything particularly bad about the wine and never came back to it later. As Craig alluded, I think it was the same for 04 Corton....just fell apart but again did not get back to it.

The better half and I tend to have pretty harsh views on US Italian restaurants, but we thought the food was sufficient (I had the pork chop and it was much better than the Sole version). The biggest issue was the kitchen was a bit slow getting the food out, but then again they may have done that in light of number of bottles on the table. However that space is just fantastic and will echo George's comments on the ease at which you can move around and chat with others, the table space for glasses and if necessary grab a bottle that you want. Irrespective of the table layout, we are always way too cramped at Sole.

Alan do you have an equity stake in Sole or are you just on commission? neener

For the next round it would be great to do Kabul. Iberia may still be an option though a couple of you who know the interior have wondered if we will simply have another Sole issue with cramped space. Dan when are you teeing up the next one?
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#73 Post by Alan Rath » June 27th, 2018, 5:31 pm

ATaylor wrote:Alan do you have an equity stake in Sole or are you just on commission?
Serious answer: I like the food. You've eaten more food in Italy than I, obviously, but I've had my share. Frankly, nothing here in the U.S. gets quite to that level. But Sole's food is perfectly decent, particularly the pastas, and at least as good as what I had at Divino. Mostly, I really like how they've always treated us, never balking at corkage, and always happy to see us. That's worth a lot in my book, and I'd like to reward them with some loyalty. Doesn't mean we have to go there every other time, I'm just voting to keep them in a rotation of the few places we do go. I'm personally not bothered at all by their tables or the layout, it doesn't matter to me. But of course I'll go with the majority [cheers.gif]
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#74 Post by George Chadwick » June 27th, 2018, 6:07 pm

I agree with Alan on Sole food but I'm now spoiled by the perfect open spaces of Divino that has several advantages.
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#75 Post by Sean_S » June 27th, 2018, 8:55 pm

The Calamari Salad and my Pork Chop were top notch. I loved the place. Liked the extra space compared to Sole.

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