COMMERCE CORNER NON-PAYERS/NON-SENDERS STICKY!!

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#1 Post by **Todd F r e n c h** » May 6th, 2014, 3:11 pm

Folks, while we already have a well-loved 'Feedback' sub forum for Commerce Corner, it was suggested that we include a sticky here atop Commerce Corner specifically for NON-payers or NON-senders in any transaction. Please post your issue here, and if you get paid, eventually, consider removing the name from your post (wholly up to you)

C. R a s k i n · #2 Post by **C. R a s k i n** » June 24th, 2014, 1:38 pm

Maybe NON-SENDERS, too?

#3 Post by **Todd F r e n c h** » June 24th, 2014, 1:42 pm

Done, Curtis.

#4 Post by **Chris Blum** » June 24th, 2014, 2:14 pm

So Curtis Done is the first deadbeat to be named and shamed?

C. R a s k i n · #5 Post by **C. R a s k i n** » June 24th, 2014, 2:48 pm

Chris Blum wrote:So Curtis Done is the first deadbeat to be named and shamed?

My real name is Not, Sure.

John Ammons · #6 Post by **John Ammons** » June 24th, 2014, 9:41 pm

Does this mean that Commerce Corner Feedback can no longer be relied on for "wine board trash"?

(In fairness, of course, the percentage of such threads was quite small.)

#7 Post by **Chris Blum** » June 25th, 2014, 5:45 am

Curtis Raskin wrote:
Chris Blum wrote:So Curtis Done is the first deadbeat to be named and shamed?
My real name is Not, Sure.

Where the hell is my case of 2012 Brawndo?!? I'm thirsty, and my tomato plants are craving the electrolytes.

C. R a s k i n · #8 Post by **C. R a s k i n** » June 25th, 2014, 7:24 am

Chris Blum wrote:
Curtis Raskin wrote:
Chris Blum wrote:So Curtis Done is the first deadbeat to be named and shamed?
My real name is Not, Sure.
Where the hell is my case of 2012 Brawndo?!? I'm thirsty, and my tomato plants are craving the electrolytes.

#9 Post by **Larry Link** » August 5th, 2014, 9:36 pm

Adrian Walsh, NON-sender after a year of back and forth BS. What I get from him is: "The wines are in Napa, no the wines are in New York, no the wines are in Europe." Multiple promises to ship overnight, but no action. Now, he will not return my messages. My patience has run out so I'm outing him on this board. Money was wired to him on July 21, 2013 with the plan so ship in the fall when the temps dropped, but he never followed thru after many exchanges.

#10 Post by **Todd Hamina** » August 5th, 2014, 10:25 pm

The Full Berserker Commerce Corner.

#11 Post by **ericskitei** » August 5th, 2014, 10:42 pm

Larry Link wrote:Adrian Walsh, NON-sender after a year of back and forth BS. What I get from him is: "The wines are in Napa, no the wines are in New York, no the wines are in Europe." Multiple promises to ship overnight, but no action. Now, he will not return my messages. My patience has run out so I'm outing him on this board. Money was wired to him on July 21, 2013 with the plan so ship in the fall when the temps dropped, but he never followed thru after many exchanges.

Never a buyer from Adrian, but many times a seller and all transactions have gone extremely smooth. Sorry for the experience.

John Stuart · #12 Post by **John Stuart** » August 10th, 2014, 9:30 am

Still waiting for Adrian Walsh to pay for wine he ordered from me....over 2 months since last reply.

#13 Post by **Larry Link** » August 19th, 2014, 4:39 pm

Larry Link wrote:Adrian Walsh, NON-sender after a year of back and forth BS. What I get from him is: "The wines are in Napa, no the wines are in New York, no the wines are in Europe." Multiple promises to ship overnight, but no action. Now, he will not return my messages. My patience has run out so I'm outing him on this board. Money was wired to him on July 21, 2013 with the plan so ship in the fall when the temps dropped, but he never followed thru after many exchanges.

An update for everyone. Adrian has refunded my money as of today. I never received the wines that were paid for, so some caution is advised. I'm not sure exactly what the issue was, and communication was sporadic at times, but he did "make me whole" in the end.

Andrew Kaufman · September 17th, 2014, 5:41 pm

I kinda feel commerce corner should be for private buys and sells not for those ITB. Might eliminate some problems.

September 17th, 2014, 7:46 pm

Andrew Kaufman wrote:I kinda feel commerce corner should be for private buys and sells not for those ITB. Might eliminate some problems.

It is now - if you find ITBers selling commercially on Commerce Corner, please report the threads so we can take action

Andrew Kaufman · September 18th, 2014, 10:33 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
Andrew Kaufman wrote:I kinda feel commerce corner should be for private buys and sells not for those ITB. Might eliminate some problems.
It is now - if you find ITBers selling commercially on Commerce Corner, please report the threads so we can take action

Do you think it should extend to ITBers buying too? See post 12 above.

jordan whitehead · October 16th, 2014, 11:00 am

don't send unopened packs of sports cards to Global Authority in Iowa. ALmost a year and never got them back. Unable to contact. No luck going through BBB or State Attorney General. Legal action next.

This is the right place for this, correct?

Scott G r u n e r · June 17th, 2015, 9:59 am

Andrew Kaufman wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
Andrew Kaufman wrote:I kinda feel commerce corner should be for private buys and sells not for those ITB. Might eliminate some problems.
It is now - if you find ITBers selling commercially on Commerce Corner, please report the threads so we can take action
Do you think it should extend to ITBers buying too? See post 12 above.

What about Brokers? May not be retail, but definitely ITB- just curious where the line is drawn?

johnr · #19 Post by **johnr** » January 16th, 2016, 6:25 pm

Aaron lynch....fraud!

#20 Post by **Randy Bowman** » January 16th, 2016, 9:30 pm

Particulars.

Ralph Earle · #21 Post by **Ralph Earle** » January 16th, 2016, 9:38 pm

NON-PAYERS/NON-SENDERS

In other words, people who are not breaking the law.

#22 Post by **TGigante** » January 16th, 2016, 9:51 pm

Ralph Earle wrote:NON-PAYERS/NON-SENDERS

In other words, people who are not breaking the law.

You don't know what it's like, you don't have a clue
If you did you'd find yourself, doing the same thing too

January 16th, 2016, 10:37 pm

TGigante wrote:
Ralph Earle wrote:NON-PAYERS/NON-SENDERS

In other words, people who are not breaking the law.
You don't know what it's like, you don't have a clue
If you did you'd find yourself, doing the same thing too

Many of us know what it's like but we state what happened, not just make a claim without explanation.

johnr · #24 Post by **johnr** » January 17th, 2016, 4:21 am

See the thread in the comments section.

#25 Post by **Chris Blum** » January 17th, 2016, 4:31 am

Randy Bowman wrote:
TGigante wrote:
Ralph Earle wrote:NON-PAYERS/NON-SENDERS

In other words, people who are not breaking the law.
You don't know what it's like, you don't have a clue
If you did you'd find yourself, doing the same thing too
Many of us know what it's like but we state what happened, not just make a claim without explanation.

Fine, I'll tell you...

There I was, completely wasted, out of work and down. I was all excted, so frustrated, as I drift from town to town.

Brian Zamkotowicz · February 3rd, 2016, 10:50 am

Should someone who agreed to a trade and then disappeared be mentioned, or is this strictly for cash changing hands?

Bill Tex Landreth · March 22nd, 2016, 11:37 am

Adrain Walsh strikes again. Non-payer for recent Scarecrow allocation.

Bill Tex Landreth · March 28th, 2016, 8:22 pm

Adrain has not paid after three plus weeks and wine has shipped.

Adrian Walsh · #29 Post by **Adrian Walsh** » March 29th, 2016, 1:04 am

My reply to Bill's PM today:

i can wire or paypal today - you will have your money immediately

re - the cheque has been sent - i promise on my life...

i have no need to lie. i have bought over 10 sets and everyone has been paid. why would i lie about yours?

I am also happy to do a western union cash payment. he insisted on a cheque?

Bill Tex Landreth · April 1st, 2016, 1:51 pm

Issue on my end is resolved and wine should be in Adrian's hands.

Sorry for the drama.

#31 Post by **Phil P.** » April 19th, 2016, 10:56 am

Adrian has ur contact info changed? Having trouble getting thru with email.

Eric B. DBA · #32 Post by **Eric B. DBA** » July 29th, 2016, 2:50 pm

Adrian Walsh committed to buying 3 cases of hill farmstead a month ago, still have not received payment after checking in weekly for the past month. No reply from my latest PM on Monday, after the previous week saying he would wire the money Monday.

Mel Hill · #33 Post by **Mel Hill** » July 29th, 2016, 4:56 pm

Is he in France? IIRC, the banks are closed on Mondays
#blessed

Andrew Kaufman · #34 Post by **Andrew Kaufman** » July 30th, 2016, 10:15 am

I don't know Adrian. But there have been several threads about him. If you want a quick and seemless transaction you might want to look elsewhere. Not saying anyone has been cheated. But he is the Lon Chaney of excuses.

#35 Post by **Phil P.** » August 5th, 2016, 4:47 am

I've been chasing Adrian for payment or an alternate solution for a deal we made close to 6 months ago and just received an email today from him looking to buy more wine. In years past, Adrian has normally paid in a reasonable amount of time, but the endless excuses and lack of response since committing to buy items in March 2016 are discouraging and beyond frustrating. No payments, no replies to email, very slow response to phone/text. Hope to work it out and this is just a one time thing but my patience expired long ago.

Eric B. DBA · #36 Post by **Eric B. DBA** » August 5th, 2016, 8:03 am

Received wire today for above stated issue.

S Chapman · #37 Post by **S Chapman** » November 24th, 2016, 1:32 am

Perhaps you need to find some sort of way to Adrian pay first, within a specified time, before you remove any listing for sale???

Eric Nelson · #38 Post by **Eric Nelson** » January 18th, 2017, 10:20 am

Adrian has owed me money since November. Kept promising he was going to take care of it. Now when i send an e-mail to him i don't even get a reply. All i want is my money...he has the bourbon.

Adrian Walsh · #39 Post by **Adrian Walsh** » January 19th, 2017, 9:40 am

all done?

Eric Nelson · #40 Post by **Eric Nelson** » January 21st, 2017, 8:39 am

Adrian setteled up. I have done business with him many times in the past with out the least bit of an issue so this had me really confused. He made everything good. Thanks adrian!!

#41 Post by **amjohnstone** » June 1st, 2017, 10:33 am

Edit: deleted.

Jay came through for me ultimately. Substituted a wine of greater value.

#42 Post by **Ken Strauss** » June 14th, 2017, 7:45 am

amjohnstone wrote:Edit: deleted.

Jay came through for me ultimately. Substituted a wine of greater value.

Good to hear!
Well done Jay!

#43 Post by **Larry Link** » June 26th, 2017, 1:24 pm

Jay Carroll owes me 6 bottles of Rhys, purchased in December 2016, and he has not shipped the wine after numerous text messages, email exchanges and phone messages. He has promised to ship on 3 separate occasions, but never followed through. Now it's too warm to ship, and I am tired of chasing him down, so at this point I have requested a refund via PayPal (which per usual has gotten no response). Buyers beware of this deadbeat.

ATaylor · #44 Post by **ATaylor** » November 7th, 2017, 5:49 pm

Issue favorably and amicably resolved.

#45 Post by **scott c** » November 29th, 2017, 8:52 am

Has anyone heard from or seen Joe Cuenco or Peter Czyryca lately? It looks like neither of them has logged into the boards in quite some time. I have a couple of old (like years) purchases that were never shipped (not entirely on them -- we agreed to hold for cooler weather and all parties forgot to follow up). I'd very much like to get in touch with them to see what we can do.

#46 Post by **Peter C.** » November 30th, 2017, 7:12 am

scott c wrote:Has anyone heard from or seen Joe Cuenco or Peter Czyryca lately? It looks like neither of them has logged into the boards in quite some time. I have a couple of old (like years) purchases that were never shipped (not entirely on them -- we agreed to hold for cooler weather and all parties forgot to follow up). I'd very much like to get in touch with them to see what we can do.

Hi Scott - PM sent!

Peter

#47 Post by **scott c** » November 30th, 2017, 7:35 am

Peter C. wrote:
scott c wrote:Has anyone heard from or seen Joe Cuenco or Peter Czyryca lately? It looks like neither of them has logged into the boards in quite some time. I have a couple of old (like years) purchases that were never shipped (not entirely on them -- we agreed to hold for cooler weather and all parties forgot to follow up). I'd very much like to get in touch with them to see what we can do.
Hi Scott - PM sent!

Peter

Thanks, Pete. I just sent you an email to your new address!

#48 Post by **scott c** » December 13th, 2017, 12:38 pm

Pete has been super-responsive and I believe we will work this out. I have still not heard from JOE CUENCO, so if anyone knows him, please reach out!

#49 Post by **scott c** » December 20th, 2017, 11:22 am

scott c wrote:Pete has been super-responsive and I believe we will work this out. I have still not heard from JOE CUENCO, so if anyone knows him, please reach out!

Joe has resurfaced and we are negotiating a resolution (he can't find the bottle I paid for). I am optimistic that all will be satisfied. Thanks to whoever may have tipped him off.

#50 Post by **scott c** » December 26th, 2017, 9:52 am

scott c wrote:Pete has been super-responsive and I believe we will work this out. I have still not heard from JOE CUENCO, so if anyone knows him, please reach out!

Update re: Peter C. -- we reached a mutually agreeable resolution and all is well. He is a good guy and was easy to work with!