FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

[J. Galang]

As the tile says, would like to do a straight trade.

Looking for 1 bottle of 2013 and up to 2 bottles of 2012 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny.

Will trade the 2014 version of the same wine. Local only please, can meet somewhere with a 20-mile radius of San Francisco.

- Joel

[J. Galang]

New year bump

[Robert.A.Jr.]

I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!

[J. Galang]

I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

[Robert.A.Jr.]

Ha, that ain’t overboard! That’s brilliance!

[MikeL238]

I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

[David_K]

I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

Rougeard has an extra sun.

[MikeL238]

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

Rougeard has an extra sun.

[Robert.A.Jr.]

I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

The 2011 rocks! Yea, tough vintage for many, though. I also like the 2011 Baudry Croix Boissee.

[MikeL238]

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

The 2011 rocks! Yea, tough vintage for many, though. I also like the 2011 Baudry Croix Boissee.

'11 Baudry ready to drink now or need some more time?

[J. Galang]

I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.

[MikeL238]

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.

That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!

[Ramon C]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?

I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.

That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!

Was there ever a vintage where Clos Rougeard's Les Clos is better than the Les Poyeux?

[MikeL238]

I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.

That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!

Was there ever a vintage where Clos Rougeard's Les Clos is better than the Les Poyeux?

I've not had enough Rougeards to comment on that, but from comments I've seen, I guess I was saying that there are certain vintages where the extra tariff for Les Poyeux isn't necessarily worth it?

[Ramon C]

That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!

Was there ever a vintage where Clos Rougeard's Les Clos is better than the Les Poyeux?

I've not had enough Rougeards to comment on that, but from comments I've seen, I guess I was saying that there are certain vintages where the extra tariff for Les Poyeux isn't necessarily worth it?

Such as which vintages?