FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

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FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

#1 Post by J. Galang »

As the tile says, would like to do a straight trade.

Looking for 1 bottle of 2013 and up to 2 bottles of 2012 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny.

Will trade the 2014 version of the same wine. Local only please, can meet somewhere with a 20-mile radius of San Francisco.

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Re: FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

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Re: FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

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I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!
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Re: FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

#4 Post by J. Galang »

Robert.A.Jr. wrote: January 1st, 2021, 7:12 pm I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!
Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
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Ha, that ain’t overboard! That’s brilliance!
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Re: FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

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J. Galang wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 10:40 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote: January 1st, 2021, 7:12 pm I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!
Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
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Re: FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

#7 Post by David_K »

MikeL238 wrote: January 6th, 2021, 12:01 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 10:40 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote: January 1st, 2021, 7:12 pm I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!
Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
Rougeard has an extra sun.
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Re: FT: my 2014 Clos Rougeard Saumur-Champigny for your 2013 or 2012

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David_K wrote: January 6th, 2021, 2:01 pm
MikeL238 wrote: January 6th, 2021, 12:01 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 10:40 am

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
Rougeard has an extra sun.
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MikeL238 wrote: January 6th, 2021, 12:01 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 10:40 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote: January 1st, 2021, 7:12 pm I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!
Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
The 2011 rocks! Yea, tough vintage for many, though. I also like the 2011 Baudry Croix Boissee.
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Robert.A.Jr. wrote: January 6th, 2021, 3:22 pm
MikeL238 wrote: January 6th, 2021, 12:01 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 10:40 am

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
The 2011 rocks! Yea, tough vintage for many, though. I also like the 2011 Baudry Croix Boissee.
'11 Baudry ready to drink now or need some more time?
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#11 Post by J. Galang »

MikeL238 wrote: January 6th, 2021, 12:01 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 10:40 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote: January 1st, 2021, 7:12 pm I assume you are assembling a vertical, as comparatively IMHO, the 2014 is a superior wine!

A damn generous offer. I’d jump all over it if I had extras.

Good luck!
Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.
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#12 Post by MikeL238 »

J. Galang wrote: January 12th, 2021, 12:12 pm
MikeL238 wrote: January 6th, 2021, 12:01 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 10:40 am

Just looking for a little variety. I totally agree that 2014 is superior to 2013 and 2012. I have had other Loire reds from these vintages from Baudry and Roches Neuves and the 2014's do stand out in quality. I kinda went overboard with 2014 Rougeard buying 1.5 cases [wink.gif]

I do not have any 12's or 13's so I wanted to have some other vintages to try. I have drank a few older vintages of Rougeard (the 2011 Lex Poyuex still haunts me) but no 12's or 13's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.
That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!
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#13 Post by Ramon C »

MikeL238 wrote: January 12th, 2021, 12:30 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 12th, 2021, 12:12 pm
MikeL238 wrote: January 6th, 2021, 12:01 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought '11 was supposedly a weak vintage in Loire? Guess it doesn't necessarily apply to Rouegard?
I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.
That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!
Was there ever a vintage where Clos Rougeard's Les Clos is better than the Les Poyeux?
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Ramon C wrote: January 13th, 2021, 6:33 am
MikeL238 wrote: January 12th, 2021, 12:30 pm
J. Galang wrote: January 12th, 2021, 12:12 pm

I drank the 2011 Les Poyeux I think 2 or 3 times (bought it for $80) in 2018 - 2019. It was excellent because it was open and ready when I drank them. I also drank 2010 Les Clos at a later date twice, but it was definitely more closed. The 2010 had really good bones and would be a better wine in the future, but for sheer drinking pleasure, the 2011 Les Poyeux was the one to open at that time.

Take note though, from what I heard the 2011 Lex Poyeux was definitely better than the 2011 Les Clos.
That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!
Was there ever a vintage where Clos Rougeard's Les Clos is better than the Les Poyeux?
I've not had enough Rougeards to comment on that, but from comments I've seen, I guess I was saying that there are certain vintages where the extra tariff for Les Poyeux isn't necessarily worth it?
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#15 Post by Ramon C »

MikeL238 wrote: January 13th, 2021, 6:49 am
Ramon C wrote: January 13th, 2021, 6:33 am
MikeL238 wrote: January 12th, 2021, 12:30 pm

That's good to know-seems like there are certain vintages where Les Poyeux definitely shows better. Appreciate the note!
Was there ever a vintage where Clos Rougeard's Les Clos is better than the Les Poyeux?
I've not had enough Rougeards to comment on that, but from comments I've seen, I guess I was saying that there are certain vintages where the extra tariff for Les Poyeux isn't necessarily worth it?
Such as which vintages?
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