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#1601 Post by scamhi » May 18th, 2018, 2:17 pm

Dan Hammer wrote:
G. Keeler wrote: Heading back to NY next month with my wife for one night and we are booked at the Uchu Kaiseki Bar. Excited for that.
EATER has an opinion on this. From January 2018. https://ny.eater.com/2018/1/23/16912880 ... ew-kaiseki
I also disagree with this review. Samuel Clouts the chef is pretty great.
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#1602 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 18th, 2018, 2:59 pm

Ditto, loved it. Enjoy!

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#1603 Post by scott c » May 21st, 2018, 10:47 am

Yup. Count me as a fan of Uchu, too.
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#1604 Post by Rich Salsano » May 22nd, 2018, 3:50 am

scott c wrote:Yup. Count me as a fan of Uchu, too.
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#1605 Post by Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡ » May 22nd, 2018, 6:04 am

A few bad reviews for legacy records...can anyone share their experiences? Trying to get a table next week.

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#1606 Post by Paul Jaouen » May 22nd, 2018, 6:51 am

Friends went recently. If I recall the response to my question of how was it....They hated it, too uppity, horrible music, no warmth, menu was meh, nice space, wine list is very good but ridiculous pricing.
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#1607 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 22nd, 2018, 7:18 am

Also seems next to impossible to get a reservation unless you are a somebody.

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#1608 Post by Robert Dentice » May 22nd, 2018, 2:10 pm

Paul Jaouen wrote:Friends went recently. If I recall the response to my question of how was it....They hated it, too uppity, horrible music, no warmth, menu was meh, nice space, wine list is very good but ridiculous pricing.
There are definitely a few expensive bottles on this but there is lots to drink at fair prices.


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#1609 Post by ybarselah » May 23rd, 2018, 8:28 am

Robert Dentice wrote:
Paul Jaouen wrote:Friends went recently. If I recall the response to my question of how was it....They hated it, too uppity, horrible music, no warmth, menu was meh, nice space, wine list is very good but ridiculous pricing.
There are definitely a few expensive bottles on this but there is lots to drink at fair prices.


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#1610 Post by Peter Kleban » May 23rd, 2018, 8:36 am

Yao C wrote:Any thoughts on The Modern? Friend of mine recommended their wine list, which I am indeed quite blown away by, but I don't want to spend the time or the coin if the food is undistinguished

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Haven't been there in about 18 months, but the last few times the food was very good to excellent. IIRC they have a Michelin star or two. Have been in the bar room (or whatever they call the large room) only. Really nice wine list, as you mention, and the service is very good. Only down side is that it can be a bit noisy (though not overwhelming like some NYC places).
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#1611 Post by Peter Kleban » May 23rd, 2018, 8:41 am

While I'm at it, we had a very nice brasserie style meal at

Cafe Paulette
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Small place, staff is mostly (entirely?) French. Felt (and tasted) like being back in Paris. Short but interesting wine list (nothing fancy IIRC but some solid choices).
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#1612 Post by Ramon C » May 27th, 2018, 3:34 pm

Dinner of Tsukemen at Momosan Ramen. A delicious warm day’s ramen. Our shared crispy fried Pig’s Ears appetizers rightfully started everything.

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#1613 Post by Robert Dentice » May 27th, 2018, 3:42 pm

Went to friends and family at Atomix, the new place from Atoboy.

I had very high expectations and have to say I was blown away.

You can see the space here:

https://ny.eater.com/2018/5/25/17391374 ... s-menu-nyc

The food is outstanding and on par with other 2 Michelin star type restaurants like Aska or Blanca. However it is also very unique with an insane attention to detail. Wine list is very good but mostly younger vintages.

I will be going back in two weeks and can't wait!

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#1614 Post by ybarselah » May 28th, 2018, 10:16 am

Robert Dentice wrote:Went to friends and family at Atomix, the new place from Atoboy.

I had very high expectations and have to say I was blown away.

You can see the space here:

https://ny.eater.com/2018/5/25/17391374 ... s-menu-nyc

The food is outstanding and on par with other 2 Michelin star type restaurants like Aska or Blanca. However it is also very unique with an insane attention to detail. Wine list is very good but mostly younger vintages.

I will be going back in two weeks and can't wait!
so thrilled for them and especially my/our neighborhood. curious how they'll be able to keep it at $175, or if that's even the goal.

the space is perfection.
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#1615 Post by George Hejna » May 28th, 2018, 11:11 am

I know... completely different but if you had to choose.

Marea or Atomix? Went to Atoboy last time we were in NYC and loved it.

Have not been to Marea.

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#1616 Post by Robert Dentice » May 28th, 2018, 11:25 am

George Hejna wrote:I know... completely different but if you had to choose.

Marea or Atomix? Went to Atoboy last time we were in NYC and loved it.

Have not been to Marea.

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I would chose Atomix for dinner and if possible Marea for lunch at bar. Atomix is much more about the entire experience. Keep in mind that Atomix is much more my type of place, having said that I have enjoyed many quick bites at the bar where you get to try of 2-3 of their best dishes and play around with the winelist that has many gems.

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#1617 Post by George Hejna » May 28th, 2018, 11:36 am

Robert -

Thanks for the quick response. Stupid question. Is the Marea bar... a bar? Meaning my 20yr old son will be joining us. He doesn't even look 20. Not that he needs to drink but will he be allowed to sit and eat?

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#1618 Post by Robert Dentice » May 28th, 2018, 11:45 am

George Hejna wrote:Robert -

Thanks for the quick response. Stupid question. Is the Marea bar... a bar? Meaning my 20yr old son will be joining us. He doesn't even look 20. Not that he needs to drink but will he be allowed to sit and eat?

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It is a very small bar area that is used mostly for people waiting on tables. Yet still comfortable to eat at the bar. I don't think it would be a problem. Francesco the somm is a friend of mine so feel free to mention my name.

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#1619 Post by Jay Miller » May 28th, 2018, 1:18 pm

So now I'm wondering, how does Atomix compare with Jungsik (which we love)?
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#1620 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » May 28th, 2018, 1:38 pm

Robert Dentice wrote:
George Hejna wrote:Robert -

Thanks for the quick response. Stupid question. Is the Marea bar... a bar? Meaning my 20yr old son will be joining us. He doesn't even look 20. Not that he needs to drink but will he be allowed to sit and eat?

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It is a very small bar area that is used mostly for people waiting on tables. Yet still comfortable to eat at the bar. I don't think it would be a problem. Francesco the somm is a friend of mine so feel free to mention my name.
I'm not sure I would agree with you that the bar is used mostly for people waiting on tables. At most times 80%+ of the 16 or so bar seats are people having dinner. And sometimes it's 100%. But, yes, it isn't a bar with people just hanging out for an hour or two having drinks.

George - as far as your son, when I have sat at a bar of a restaurant with one of my underage daughters, sometimes it hasn't been a problem and other times I've been told that, by NYS law, a patron must be 21 to sit at the bar even if they're not drinking (not sure if that's true or not). I haven't eaten at the bar with my daughters at Marea, so I don't know their policy, but I would just call and ask. As Robert said, the bar is quite comfortable and I regularly dine there alone and sometimes with one other person.
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#1621 Post by George Hejna » May 28th, 2018, 3:48 pm

Thanks for all the feedback. Booked Atomix.

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#1622 Post by Robert Dentice » May 28th, 2018, 4:44 pm

Jay Miller wrote:So now I'm wondering, how does Atomix compare with Jungsik (which we love)?
Jay - I think the food is very similar. It is the experience and environment that is much different. It is more the personal aesthetic of the Chef and his wife. The music is minimalist and might be a tad loud for you, just an fyi.

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#1623 Post by Robert Dentice » May 28th, 2018, 4:46 pm

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
Robert Dentice wrote:
George Hejna wrote:Robert -

Thanks for the quick response. Stupid question. Is the Marea bar... a bar? Meaning my 20yr old son will be joining us. He doesn't even look 20. Not that he needs to drink but will he be allowed to sit and eat?

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It is a very small bar area that is used mostly for people waiting on tables. Yet still comfortable to eat at the bar. I don't think it would be a problem. Francesco the somm is a friend of mine so feel free to mention my name.
I'm not sure I would agree with you that the bar is used mostly for people waiting on tables. At most times 80%+ of the 16 or so bar seats are people having dinner. And sometimes it's 100%. But, yes, it isn't a bar with people just hanging out for an hour or two having drinks.

George - as far as your son, when I have sat at a bar of a restaurant with one of my underage daughters, sometimes it hasn't been a problem and other times I've been told that, by NYS law, a patron must be 21 to sit at the bar even if they're not drinking (not sure if that's true or not). I haven't eaten at the bar with my daughters at Marea, so I don't know their policy, but I would just call and ask. As Robert said, the bar is quite comfortable and I regularly dine there alone and sometimes with one other person.
I did not know the % of people at the eating at the bar was that high. You said better what I was trying to say which was that it is very comfortable to eat at the bar and it is not a bar for primarily for drinking.

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#1624 Post by Robert Dentice » May 28th, 2018, 4:49 pm

George Hejna wrote:Thanks for all the feedback. Booked Atomix.

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#1625 Post by Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡ » May 28th, 2018, 7:02 pm

Has anyone been to Loring Place recently? Also curious about their corkage receptivity...

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#1626 Post by ybarselah » May 29th, 2018, 7:36 am

Faryan Amir-Ghassem¡ wrote:Has anyone been to Loring Place recently? Also curious about their corkage receptivity...
always solid. corkage friendly - just call ahead. their list is also excellent. it's a great bring-and-buy place for sure.
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#1627 Post by Jay Miller » May 29th, 2018, 12:13 pm

Robert Dentice wrote:
Jay Miller wrote:So now I'm wondering, how does Atomix compare with Jungsik (which we love)?
Jay - I think the food is very similar. It is the experience and environment that is much different. It is more the personal aesthetic of the Chef and his wife. The music is minimalist and might be a tad loud for you, just an fyi.
Thanks, that's useful. One of the things we love about both Jungsik and Atoboy is that it's easy to hold a conversation there.
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#1628 Post by Barry L i p t o n » May 29th, 2018, 2:09 pm

Why eat at the bar at Marea? I love Matea’s lunch and have been there a couple of times solo at a table.

Is the food somehow better at the bar???!

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#1629 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » May 29th, 2018, 2:12 pm

Barry L i p t o n wrote:Why eat at the bar at Marea? I love Matea’s lunch and have been there a couple of times solo at a table.

Is the food somehow better at the bar???!
Much better. They use higher quality ingredients for patrons who order dishes at the bar.
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#1630 Post by AlexS » May 29th, 2018, 4:45 pm

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
Barry L i p t o n wrote:Why eat at the bar at Marea? I love Matea’s lunch and have been there a couple of times solo at a table.

Is the food somehow better at the bar???!
Much better. They use higher quality ingredients for patrons who order dishes at the bar.
Don't forget about 50% off the wine list for bar patrons.
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#1631 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » May 29th, 2018, 5:58 pm

50% off anything from the wine list?

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#1632 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » May 30th, 2018, 5:19 am

Any recommendations for a place with great steak au poivre that is corkage friendly? Thanks!

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#1633 Post by Paul Jaouen » May 30th, 2018, 8:24 am

Sheri, I haven't been in years but Tartine used to have a good one. It's BYOB. It was cash only so double check on that if you decide to go.
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#1634 Post by Barry L i p t o n » May 30th, 2018, 8:43 am

R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
Barry L i p t o n wrote:Why eat at the bar at Marea? I love Matea’s lunch and have been there a couple of times solo at a table.

Is the food somehow better at the bar???!
Much better. They use higher quality ingredients for patrons who order dishes at the bar.
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#1635 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 30th, 2018, 8:47 am

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
Barry L i p t o n wrote:Why eat at the bar at Marea? I love Matea’s lunch and have been there a couple of times solo at a table.

Is the food somehow better at the bar???!
Much better. They use higher quality ingredients for patrons who order dishes at the bar.
I feel my leg being tugged.
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#1636 Post by mark rudner » May 30th, 2018, 8:53 am

i think the quality's the same it just arrives faster at the bar....so it's better

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#1637 Post by R@y.Tupp@+sch » May 30th, 2018, 10:18 am

Barry L i p t o n wrote:
R@y.Tupp@+sch wrote:
Barry L i p t o n wrote:Why eat at the bar at Marea? I love Matea’s lunch and have been there a couple of times solo at a table.

Is the food somehow better at the bar???!
Much better. They use higher quality ingredients for patrons who order dishes at the bar.
I feel my leg being tugged.
To respond more seriously, the bar at Marea has a different vibe than dining at a table in the main room, especially when eating alone.
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#1638 Post by Peter Kleban » May 30th, 2018, 10:22 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:Any recommendations for a place with great steak au poivre that is corkage friendly? Thanks!
Loved the one at Chez Paulette [edit--drop down one post to #1611]. Not something I eat very often, so I can't compare.

No idea what their corkage policy is, but I'd think they wouldn't charge much if they allow it.
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#1639 Post by Ramon C » May 30th, 2018, 11:25 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:Any recommendations for a place with great steak au poivre that is corkage friendly? Thanks!
Tartine is a good option. Aside from cash only, there's no reservation and a standing wait at sidewalk is almost a given during dinner.

Balthazar is also good, but I don't know their BYO policy.

I've tasted my wife's Steak au Poivre at Benoit and I liked it. $35 per bottle byob.

But, one the best steak au poivre I've had was at Raoul's. It's been many years since I went and I didn't BYO then, so I don't now their policy.

http://www.raouls.com/
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#1640 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » May 30th, 2018, 2:24 pm

Ramon C wrote:
Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:Any recommendations for a place with great steak au poivre that is corkage friendly? Thanks!
Tartine is a good option. Aside from cash only, there's no reservation and a standing wait at sidewalk is almost a given during dinner.

Balthazar is also good, but I don't know their BYO policy.

I've tasted my wife's Steak au Poivre at Benoit and I liked it. $35 per bottle byob.

But, one the best steak au poivre I've had was at Raoul's. It's been many years since I went and I didn't BYO then, so I don't now their policy.

http://www.raouls.com/
Thanks, Ramon. Raouls is my favorite, although it's been a while since I've been - I will call, but I don't think they allow corkage. Will look into the others as well.

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#1641 Post by Peter Metzger » May 30th, 2018, 7:01 pm

I believe Raoul’s allows corkage, but last I checked it was $65.
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#1642 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » May 31st, 2018, 5:15 am

Peter Metzger wrote:I believe Raoul’s allows corkage, but last I checked it was $65.
I called yesterday and was quoted $50.

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#1643 Post by Peter Metzger » May 31st, 2018, 7:10 pm

That’s good. Lower than I recall. Could there be a corkage differential between weekends and weekdays?
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#1644 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » June 1st, 2018, 6:06 am

Peter Metzger wrote:That’s good. Lower than I recall. Could there be a corkage differential between weekends and weekdays?
I didn't give a date for the reservation - just asked the corkage policy. Can't find their wine list online and I really don't remember what's on it.

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#1645 Post by Rich Salsano » June 4th, 2018, 7:59 am

Anyone been to Racines during the Paul Liebrandt residency? I have tentative reservations for an upcoming Friday but have been reading some mixed reviews.

If it’s a pass, what about Chef’s Club with Sota Atsumi of Clown Bar? He is in nyc for 3 months trying out dishes for his next restaurant.
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#1646 Post by Jay Miller » June 4th, 2018, 10:59 am

Rich Salsano wrote:Anyone been to Racines during the Paul Liebrandt residency? I have tentative reservations for an upcoming Friday but have been reading some mixed reviews.

If it’s a pass, what about Chef’s Club with Sota Atsumi of Clown Bar? He is in nyc for 3 months trying out dishes for his next restaurant.
I had a very good meal, especially enjoying the Cote de Boeuf. I found the morel risotto slightly oversalted but everyone else at the table disagreed.
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#1647 Post by scamhi » June 4th, 2018, 11:52 am

Paul Liebrandt's menu is very good at Racine's.
I was also the Sota's Chef's Club and that was off the charts good. Same cost for both menus. (corkage was $40.00 or $45.00 per bottle)
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#1648 Post by tcavallo » June 7th, 2018, 1:49 pm

Just dropped off some more produce at Hemlock, and I had just gotten a root canal so couldn't take my usual sweet potato bread to-go, but the smell made me want to go back for dinner again ASAP! Although I have tentative plans to hit Racines for my next night back in the city now that they extended PL's stay through the fall...
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#1649 Post by G. Keeler » June 11th, 2018, 10:14 am

We did Uchu Kaiseki Bar this past Saturday and loved it. Liked the space, service and especially the music. The food was great with favs being the egg dish, lobster dashi and the caviar handroll lived up to the hype. Only dish we were so so on was the wagu sandwich. I'm sure it's a crowd favorite but we found the bread and the steak to thick and out of portion. When biting the steak it pulled instead of melting and the sandwich kind of fell apart. I think it would perform better as a thinner portion but that is a very small gripe on a great meal. We don't often do pairings but we wanted to try a range of things here including sake, so I'm glad we did. I thought they did a great job with matching the dishes. Overall a fun night and a great kick off to our trip.
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#1650 Post by Robert Dentice » June 11th, 2018, 10:37 am

G. Keeler wrote:We did Uchu Kaiseki Bar this past Saturday and loved it. Liked the space, service and especially the music. The food was great with favs being the egg dish, lobster dashi and the caviar handroll lived up to the hype. Only dish we were so so on was the wagu sandwich. I'm sure it's a crowd favorite but we found the bread and the steak to thick and out of portion. When biting the steak it pulled instead of melting and the sandwich kind of fell apart. I think it would perform better as a thinner portion but that is a very small gripe on a great meal. We don't often do pairings but we wanted to try a range of things here including sake, so I'm glad we did. I thought they did a great job with matching the dishes. Overall a fun night and a great kick off to our trip.
Very happy to hear that. Enjoy the rest of your trip!

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