Is charcoal in short supply?

Food - recipes, reviews, and discussion
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
G. Bienstock
Posts: 2779
Joined: December 29th, 2009, 6:32 pm
Location: Reno, NV

Is charcoal in short supply?

#1 Post by G. Bienstock » July 28th, 2020, 2:39 pm

I use Royal Oak lump. I have searched in several usually reliable local Walmarts and Home Depots in Reno. I was able to find just 2 bags of RO lump to add to a few bags in my garage. I am told it has been out of stock for some time. I did see lump from Mexico, but it is usually mesquite heavy which I do not care for.

I bought Embers briquettes at Home Depot, 40 lbs. for $15 to supplement my supply of lump. It is made by RO. I am happy with it. It lights quick, burns hot and does not have any off odors. Loaded up on 120 lbs for blending with lump.

Is anybody else seeing supply issues?
Glenn

Positive Rastaman Vibration

ITB 1999-2005

User avatar
Robert M yers
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 3406
Joined: March 10th, 2010, 8:24 pm
Location: Cleveland

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#2 Post by Robert M yers » July 28th, 2020, 3:41 pm

Interesting as I’ve been unable to find Royal Oak recently as well. I had to buy another brand at Home Depot and am trying it out right now for the first time.

User avatar
Rick Joyer
Posts: 535
Joined: April 27th, 2010, 9:15 pm
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#3 Post by Rick Joyer » July 28th, 2020, 3:46 pm

It's funny you ask, Glenn, as I also use Royal Oak as my standard go-to lump charcoal for grilling due to its nice clean flavor, low cost and availability at my local Home Depot. Last week I had to head over to Home Depot for a few items and figured I'd grab a bag or two of Royal Oak while there and they were 100% sold out. While I'd never seen them completely sold out before, I didn't think anything of it until seeing your thread here and now I'm wondering the same and will be paying attention to this thread to see what others are seeing. Hopefully this is just a temporary issue.

Jud Reis
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 1880
Joined: February 8th, 2009, 10:50 am
Location: North Shore Mass.

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#4 Post by Jud Reis » July 28th, 2020, 3:47 pm

People are cooking at home a lot more and supply chains are struggling to keep up with the changes....

User avatar
Linda Baehr
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 16499
Joined: January 27th, 2009, 1:31 pm
Location: I'm a Napacat

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#5 Post by Linda Baehr » July 28th, 2020, 4:49 pm

I ordered some on line months ago and still haven't received it. I think the order got cancelled.
ITB..................................but you guys knew that already, right?
Check out my Artwork Album on my Facebook page!
Buy a painting from a starving artist!

PauLeenda2020

User avatar
Andrew Kotowski
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 5305
Joined: February 7th, 2012, 1:42 pm
Location: Sammamish, WA

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#6 Post by Andrew Kotowski » July 28th, 2020, 4:57 pm

We’ve got Royal Oak all over the place in the Seattle area.

That said... I picked up two bags and they were complete crap. I’ve used Royal Oak quite a bit over the last 10 years as it’s pretty cheap and the lump size is decent, with a large amount of baseball-sized chunks. Last two bags were golf ball sized, on a big day.

Consider buying off of Amazon - Jealous Devil goes on sale semi-frequently, as does the Kamado Joe stuff.
Instagram at @akgrill

Brian King
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 388
Joined: May 1st, 2010, 6:37 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#7 Post by Brian King » July 28th, 2020, 5:43 pm

I also love the Jealous Devil brand, but the last time I checked it was quite the opposite of on sale. We often make our own - need to stope being lazy and do a few batches

Mich@el Ch@ng
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 5873
Joined: March 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#8 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » July 28th, 2020, 5:56 pm

Andrew Kotowski wrote:
July 28th, 2020, 4:57 pm
We’ve got Royal Oak all over the place in the Seattle area.

That said... I picked up two bags and they were complete crap. I’ve used Royal Oak quite a bit over the last 10 years as it’s pretty cheap and the lump size is decent, with a large amount of baseball-sized chunks. Last two bags were golf ball sized, on a big day.

Consider buying off of Amazon - Jealous Devil goes on sale semi-frequently, as does the Kamado Joe stuff.
Any thoughts on jealous devil vs rockwood?

MitchTallan
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 3086
Joined: June 3rd, 2009, 10:17 am

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#9 Post by MitchTallan » July 28th, 2020, 7:42 pm

Big Green Egg brand is just Royal Oak, supposedly a slightly higher grade/sorted chunks. I can no longer finds BGE lump anywhere. I am told I need to wait until the distributor can get more from the manufacturer. I haven't looked for Royal Oak but it makes sense it is out of stock in certain locations too. I used to buy Rockwood and loved it. The source I bought it from offered free shipping on orders of more than $100. They then excluded lump. I knew it was too good to last. My son went to the place I buy BGE from for BGE and upon being told there was none, came back with three bags of Cowboy brand. Almost total crap. Huge variation from chips to massive logs and it does not light easily. I also detect a weird aftertaste on the food. I told him Cowboy had a terrible reputation but decided to do some cooks with it rather than return it. Awful stuff. My all-time favorite is still Cherry Hill. You can only get it at Mason-Dixon and from the nearby producer, in the middle of PA close to New Castle.

Mich@el Ch@ng
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 5873
Joined: March 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#10 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » July 28th, 2020, 7:50 pm

My grocery store had a bit of bge brand for cheap and I got a couple bags of rockwood from amazon; may try something else after I use up a bit of this.

User avatar
G. Bienstock
Posts: 2779
Joined: December 29th, 2009, 6:32 pm
Location: Reno, NV

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#11 Post by G. Bienstock » July 28th, 2020, 8:28 pm

I do not like Cowboy either. It contains a lot of Mesquite, with lots of sparks and popping. I mixed the Embers briquettes which are actually Royal Oak, about one-third with the lump as a trial burn and I was pleased. If you need fuel I would recommend the Embers briquettes from Home Depot.
Glenn

Positive Rastaman Vibration

ITB 1999-2005

User avatar
JDavisRoby
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 1270
Joined: June 19th, 2018, 12:42 pm
Location: Oklahoma

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#12 Post by JDavisRoby » July 28th, 2020, 8:33 pm

Count me in the camp that doesn’t like the Cowboy brand. I didn’t think much about HD being out of Royal Oak on Independence Day weekend but a quick stock check on their all tells me they are out locally. Interesting.

Might have to hit the speciality stores as I just used my last bit this weekend.
Joshu@

User avatar
Andrew Kotowski
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 5305
Joined: February 7th, 2012, 1:42 pm
Location: Sammamish, WA

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#13 Post by Andrew Kotowski » July 28th, 2020, 8:49 pm

Agree Cowboy is garbage. I’ve won plywood, nails and metal wire in bags before.

Have not tried Rockwood.

Went out and got a blue bag today, as it’s always consistent... I just hate cleaning all the filler out of my kamado.

All time favorite was Wicked Good Weekend Warrior, but I haven’t seen it out here in several years :( Fogo restaurant is good, as well, but I’ve only seen it on sale once and it’s pretty pricey at MSRP.
Instagram at @akgrill

Chris S p i k e s
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 3033
Joined: February 12th, 2009, 10:48 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#14 Post by Chris S p i k e s » July 29th, 2020, 7:33 am

I really like the KJ and it's on sale at Costco for a few more days:

https://www.costco.com/kamado-joe-lump- ... 82227.html

I think Rockwood is also very good. Same for Wicked Good WW, but haven't used it in more than 5 years and I've heard it is no longer as good.

Royal Oak is ok, but not on the "A" list. Cowboy is not good. There was some brand of mesquite charcoal sold at Sam's years ago that was downright nasty.

I've heard the rumors of a shortage, but I haven't searched for anything other than the KJ at Costco and I usually stock up with a couple hundred pounds and that lasts me for close to 2 years, I think.

User avatar
G. Bienstock
Posts: 2779
Joined: December 29th, 2009, 6:32 pm
Location: Reno, NV

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#15 Post by G. Bienstock » July 29th, 2020, 8:04 am

The KJ has huge pieces. Currently shown as back ordered.
Glenn

Positive Rastaman Vibration

ITB 1999-2005

Chris S p i k e s
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 3033
Joined: February 12th, 2009, 10:48 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#16 Post by Chris S p i k e s » July 29th, 2020, 8:10 am

KJ @Costco - You can still order it and they will deliver it when available. It was that way when I ordered in mid-June and was delivered in early July.

User avatar
John Davis
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 3088
Joined: January 28th, 2009, 1:27 pm
Location: Indiana

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#17 Post by John Davis » July 29th, 2020, 8:22 am

I get this from Amazon https://www.fogocharcoal.com/ . I started using this when, sometime last year, I couldn’t find Royal Oak. Very pleased. Not a huge fan of Cowboy, either. Though I did use it years ago.
ITB

Mich@el Ch@ng
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 5873
Joined: March 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#18 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » July 29th, 2020, 8:55 am

I ordered a bit of the kJ; should be good on charcoal for a couple years now.

User avatar
Rick Joyer
Posts: 535
Joined: April 27th, 2010, 9:15 pm
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#19 Post by Rick Joyer » July 29th, 2020, 8:56 am

Thanks John - I just looked up the Fogo products and ordered a couple of bags to try out (their Quebracho Argentinian lump and the Brazilian Eucalyptus lump). Appreciate the recommendation, as it seems my old standby Royal Oak may be MIA for a while. Looking forward to trying something new and the free shipping on orders over $30 made it easy to pull the trigger.

Mich@el Ch@ng
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 5873
Joined: March 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#20 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » July 29th, 2020, 9:01 am

I heard fogo is good but it’s very pricey.

User avatar
c fu
Moderator
<dfn>Moderator</dfn>
Posts: 32064
Joined: January 27th, 2009, 1:26 pm
Location: Pasadena

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#21 Post by c fu » July 29th, 2020, 11:50 am

Chris S p i k e s wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 7:33 am
I really like the KJ and it's on sale at Costco for a few more days:

https://www.costco.com/kamado-joe-lump- ... 82227.html

I think Rockwood is also very good. Same for Wicked Good WW, but haven't used it in more than 5 years and I've heard it is no longer as good.

Royal Oak is ok, but not on the "A" list. Cowboy is not good. There was some brand of mesquite charcoal sold at Sam's years ago that was downright nasty.

I've heard the rumors of a shortage, but I haven't searched for anything other than the KJ at Costco and I usually stock up with a couple hundred pounds and that lasts me for close to 2 years, I think.
KJ is my go to. I buy 6-8 bags at a time
Ch@rlie F|_|
"Roulot is Roulot"©

ITB -Salt Vine Wines

Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/clayfu.wine

User avatar
Scott Watkins
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 1992
Joined: June 20th, 2011, 7:49 am
Location: Sherman Oaks

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#22 Post by Scott Watkins » July 29th, 2020, 12:16 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 9:01 am
I heard fogo is good but it’s very pricey.
I like Fogo but B & B is my current favorite.
“Freedom is something that dies unless it's used” Hunter S Thompson

Chris Echeck
Posts: 82
Joined: April 27th, 2010, 8:58 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#23 Post by Chris Echeck » July 29th, 2020, 5:06 pm

B&B is great, you can sometimes find at Walmart or Academy sports.

Sam’s club has a brand called best of the west masters selection. As long as the bags aren’t trampled it is a good choice as well

Walmart used to have a great cheapie brand western, 10 bucks for 30 lbs but I haven’t seen it this summer

Any of the 3 are leaps and bounds above royal oak

Mich@el Ch@ng
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 5873
Joined: March 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#24 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » July 30th, 2020, 7:01 am

That kJ charcoal shipped from Costco

User avatar
JDavisRoby
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 1270
Joined: June 19th, 2018, 12:42 pm
Location: Oklahoma

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#25 Post by JDavisRoby » September 2nd, 2020, 4:57 pm

Any experience with Frontier Lump? It’s showed up in the local market where I normally buy Royal Oak. $13 for a 17lb bag. All reviews online at 5-7 years old.
Joshu@

Chris.Martin
Posts: 83
Joined: December 11th, 2014, 9:45 am

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#26 Post by Chris.Martin » September 2nd, 2020, 9:30 pm

FYI- I went to Home Depot (Orange County, CA) over the weekend and they have a few pallets of Royal Oak in stock.

User avatar
G. Bienstock
Posts: 2779
Joined: December 29th, 2009, 6:32 pm
Location: Reno, NV

Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

#27 Post by G. Bienstock » September 2nd, 2020, 10:37 pm

    JDavisRoby wrote:
    September 2nd, 2020, 4:57 pm
    Any experience with Frontier Lump? It’s showed up in the local market where I normally buy Royal Oak. $13 for a 17lb bag. All reviews online at 5-7 years old.
    I am not familiar with this brand. If I take a chance on a lump I make sure it is made in the US. The Mexican stuff tends to contain a lot of Mesquite that I do not like.
    Glenn

    Positive Rastaman Vibration

    ITB 1999-2005

    User avatar
    J a y H a c k
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 13936
    Joined: May 29th, 2009, 9:59 am

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #28 Post by J a y H a c k » September 3rd, 2020, 5:59 am

    I use a lot of Westchester Sandy from the oak tree that hit my house and I recently got a smaller stack of Hispanic Cut Oak that destroyed my back yard fence. The only thing I got at Home Depot was a long handle sledge hammer and two wedges. The wood if very inexpensive. I want to call me friend to see if she has any more Elmsford Sandy Cherry.
    Yes, that's a DM of 1978 Mouton!

    You can read my Financial Institutions Law Blog at https://www.gdblaw.com/blog?practiceID=4985.

    User avatar
    Robert M yers
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 3406
    Joined: March 10th, 2010, 8:24 pm
    Location: Cleveland

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #29 Post by Robert M yers » September 3rd, 2020, 7:34 pm

    I got a bag of B & B at Ace Hardware and this bag has been better than Royal Oak. More consistent sizes and overall bigger chunks.

    Mich@el Ch@ng
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 5873
    Joined: March 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #30 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 3rd, 2020, 7:41 pm

    I should’ve bought more of that kamado joe charcoal; it’s great.

    User avatar
    Andrew Kotowski
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 5305
    Joined: February 7th, 2012, 1:42 pm
    Location: Sammamish, WA

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #31 Post by Andrew Kotowski » September 3rd, 2020, 7:46 pm

    Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
    September 3rd, 2020, 7:41 pm
    I should’ve bought more of that kamado joe charcoal; it’s great.
    Almost too good. Some of the chunks were so big that I had to break them down using the side of my charcoal chimney, resulting in a dented chimney :)

    Bag #3 reinforces my previous statement - Royal Oak has gone from the best QPR charcoal deal to absolute crap. Last bag had easily 3 lbs of small, river rock size charcoal (on a good day) and I’m done with it.
    Instagram at @akgrill

    User avatar
    JDavisRoby
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 1270
    Joined: June 19th, 2018, 12:42 pm
    Location: Oklahoma

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #32 Post by JDavisRoby » September 3rd, 2020, 8:37 pm

    This Frontier Charcoal states on the bag it was manufactured in Mexico and distributed by Royal Oak. So, a new (or, revived) Royal Oak brand?

    I’ll give it a try for at least one cook and see how it does.
    Joshu@

    User avatar
    dteng
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 5182
    Joined: April 27th, 2010, 1:33 pm
    Location: NoCal

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #33 Post by dteng » September 5th, 2020, 3:07 pm

    Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
    September 3rd, 2020, 7:41 pm
    I should’ve bought more of that kamado joe charcoal; it’s great.
    Love it too.
    I bought 14 bags by accident this year... newhere
    Dan

    Mich@el Ch@ng
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 5873
    Joined: March 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #34 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 5th, 2020, 3:11 pm

    dteng wrote:
    September 5th, 2020, 3:07 pm
    Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
    September 3rd, 2020, 7:41 pm
    I should’ve bought more of that kamado joe charcoal; it’s great.
    Love it too.
    I bought 14 bags by accident this year... newhere
    Wish I’d bought 14, only bought 8

    User avatar
    dteng
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 5182
    Joined: April 27th, 2010, 1:33 pm
    Location: NoCal

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #35 Post by dteng » September 5th, 2020, 3:21 pm

    Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
    September 5th, 2020, 3:11 pm
    dteng wrote:
    September 5th, 2020, 3:07 pm
    Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
    September 3rd, 2020, 7:41 pm
    I should’ve bought more of that kamado joe charcoal; it’s great.
    Love it too.
    I bought 14 bags by accident this year... newhere
    Wish I’d bought 14, only bought 8
    Shortly after covid lockdown...
    I ordered the 4 bag deal from Costco for $79...but got no confirmation.
    Went back to the site and saw it was still in my cart.
    So decided, oh why not, just order two 4 packs.
    Again no confirmation.
    And thought, maybe this whole covid thing has messed everything up with Costco online.

    Went to Amazon, and saw KJ for $25/bag...ok, not bad, ordered two.
    Next day, got the confirmation email from Costco...for both orders.... [wow.gif] [help.gif] pileon

    But said F it...keep it all...it’s not like yogurt....it won’t go bad... champagne.gif
    Dan

    User avatar
    Alan Rath
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 21733
    Joined: April 24th, 2009, 12:45 am
    Location: Bay Area, CA. Sometimes out to lunch.

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #36 Post by Alan Rath » September 5th, 2020, 4:51 pm

    Yogurt goes bad? Uh oh...
    I'm just one lost soul, swimming in a fish bowl, year after year

    P Turk
    GCC Member
    GCC Member
    Posts: 178
    Joined: May 28th, 2016, 5:47 pm
    Location: Chicagoland

    Re: Is charcoal in short supply?

    #37 Post by P Turk » September 5th, 2020, 6:56 pm

    Andrew Kotowski wrote:
    September 3rd, 2020, 7:46 pm
    Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
    September 3rd, 2020, 7:41 pm
    I should’ve bought more of that kamado joe charcoal; it’s great.
    Almost too good. Some of the chunks were so big that I had to break them down using the side of my charcoal chimney, resulting in a dented chimney :)

    Bag #3 reinforces my previous statement - Royal Oak has gone from the best QPR charcoal deal to absolute crap. Last bag had easily 3 lbs of small, river rock size charcoal (on a good day) and I’m done with it.
    Agree; Royal Oak this summer has included lots of small pieces that fall through the grates before and during cooking. Still the best option at the stores around me. I’ll have to look into ordering some other lump charcoal recommendations online.
    Phil

    Post Reply

    Return to “Epicurean Exploits - Food and Recipes”