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Ken Onion Worksharp Knife sharpener

#1 Post by geoffpm » May 4th, 2019, 9:38 am

For years, I have been having my knives sharpened professionally at $150 a pop, 3 times a year. I decided to pull the trigger and get a Ken Onion Works sharp. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ken+onion+wo ... rji3bfee_e

Its $129 but it works exceptionally well and fast. It's a belt driven sharpener with knife guides from 15 Degrees to 30. It takes about 7 min per knife but they are razor sharp.
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#2 Post by Alan Eden » May 4th, 2019, 12:17 pm

Why not just buy stones ?
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#4 Post by geoffpm » May 5th, 2019, 5:18 am

For those of us who are slightly mechanically challenged, The Ken onion is a savior. I have read lots of TS prof comments and I prefer setting and gliding knives through .
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#5 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 5th, 2019, 8:00 am

Alan Eden wrote:
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Why not just buy stones ?
Thanos already has them all.
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#6 Post by George Hejna » May 5th, 2019, 11:19 am

You pay $150 a knife to have them sharpened? Is Thanos sharpening them?

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#7 Post by Robert M yers » May 6th, 2019, 10:48 am

I read it as all the knives cost $150.

Seems like possibly a good compromise for me. I don’t have a knife collection outside of kitchen knives so the whole TS Prof thing always seems like overkill. The local guy only charges 1.50 per inch so he’s not getting rich, but it would be nice to be able to just do it myself before they get to the point of having to take them to him. I’d never heard of this one so thanks for the link.

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#8 Post by Alan Eden » May 6th, 2019, 11:43 am

Using a belt grinder on a fine steel knife should result in all nice things being taken away from you. Steel was forged by hand then hand made into a glorious knife then you take an industrial tool and hack it like its an axe blade.

Japanese knives must be hand sharpened on stones, if your to lazy or dumb to do this then you should just buy cheap shitty knives that nobody cares how they are sharpened
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#9 Post by Kevin Porter » May 6th, 2019, 12:12 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 11:43 am
if your to lazy or dumb to do this then you should just buy cheap shitty knives that nobody cares how they are sharpened
I guess that's me - I appreciate your advice. Also, "you're".
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#10 Post by Robert M yers » May 6th, 2019, 12:54 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 11:43 am
Using a belt grinder on a fine steel knife should result in all nice things being taken away from you. Steel was forged by hand then hand made into a glorious knife then you take an industrial tool and hack it like its an axe blade.

Japanese knives must be hand sharpened on stones, if your to lazy or dumb to do this then you should just buy cheap shitty knives that nobody cares how they are sharpened
I fail to see where anyone said they were sharpening Japanese knives.

Unfortunately I am though, so I’m not sure whether to feel better about the insults or worse [cheers.gif]

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#11 Post by ybarselah » May 6th, 2019, 12:57 pm

George Hejna wrote:
May 5th, 2019, 11:19 am
Is Thanos sharpening them?

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#12 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » May 6th, 2019, 1:12 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 11:43 am
Using a belt grinder on a fine steel knife should result in all nice things being taken away from you. Steel was forged by hand then hand made into a glorious knife then you take an industrial tool and hack it like its an axe blade.

Japanese knives must be hand sharpened on stones, if your to lazy or dumb to do this then you should just buy cheap shitty knives that nobody cares how they are sharpened
Recommend any basic stones?

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#13 Post by Joe Chanley » May 6th, 2019, 1:16 pm

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 1:12 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 11:43 am
Using a belt grinder on a fine steel knife should result in all nice things being taken away from you. Steel was forged by hand then hand made into a glorious knife then you take an industrial tool and hack it like its an axe blade.

Japanese knives must be hand sharpened on stones, if your to lazy or dumb to do this then you should just buy cheap shitty knives that nobody cares how they are sharpened
Recommend any basic stones?
Email Japanese knife imports. Great customer service.

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#14 Post by Alan Eden » May 6th, 2019, 1:45 pm

Japanese Knife imports are great, they are high end though so not much in the way of starter stuff. CKTG in Wisconsin is also great, Mark who runs it does get occasionally knocked in the knife forums but its not justified, he does a great job of balancing commercial awareness with good product good customer service

For a basic starter stone
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#15 Post by Alan Eden » May 6th, 2019, 1:46 pm

Robert M yers wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 12:54 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 11:43 am
Using a belt grinder on a fine steel knife should result in all nice things being taken away from you. Steel was forged by hand then hand made into a glorious knife then you take an industrial tool and hack it like its an axe blade.

Japanese knives must be hand sharpened on stones, if your to lazy or dumb to do this then you should just buy cheap shitty knives that nobody cares how they are sharpened
I fail to see where anyone said they were sharpening Japanese knives.

Unfortunately I am though, so I’m not sure whether to feel better about the insults or worse [cheers.gif]
Sell me some of that 2007 and ill sharpen them for you for free !!!
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#16 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » May 6th, 2019, 2:38 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 1:45 pm
Japanese Knife imports are great, they are high end though so not much in the way of starter stuff. CKTG in Wisconsin is also great, Mark who runs it does get occasionally knocked in the knife forums but its not justified, he does a great job of balancing commercial awareness with good product good customer service

For a basic starter stone
Thanks , I have some regular knives to hone my skills on.

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#17 Post by ybarselah » May 6th, 2019, 3:34 pm

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 2:38 pm
Thanks , I have some regular knives to hone my skills on.
these puns are getting rather dull.
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#18 Post by geoffpm » May 7th, 2019, 11:49 am

The purists among you make me laugh and cringe. It's the same on the wine board. God forbid, one of us actually gets more pleasure from IGP Languedoc wines than first growths. If you actually took the time to learn about the Ken Onion. It's designed by one of the best knife makers in the States. Watch the reviews on Youtube.

I ask, how long does it take to sharpen a Japanese knife on stones? Bet it's a lot longer...

More importantly, the belts with different grits have not harmed my knives. It 's a question of skill and knowledge. This myth that Japanese knives need to sharpened on a stone is total BS.

I am a former Paris trained, Michelin 3 star trained chef. I have owned Global knives for a very long time and I will gladly hold up my razor sharp edges to any stone sharpened knives. I haven't chipped a blade or rendered it un-sharpenable(sic). One of the great things about the Ken Onion is that I have a quiver of knives with different angles of attack on the blades. It makes it really easy to go from my 30 degree Chinese cleaver to the 16 degree Global knives. Also, there is a guide that creates less chance of angle error.

I propose "getting off your high horse" and realize that most of us can't spend hours upon hours using stones. By the way, replacement Grit belts only cost $20.

Please continue your own habits and traditions. I will also continue to expose this community to newer interesting and less expensive wines and to technology that saves money and creates more leisure time for the home chef.

I spend $150 to have 7 medium and large European, American and Japanese knives sharpened in the Greater Boston area and i always have to touch them up myself.
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#19 Post by Alan Eden » May 7th, 2019, 12:44 pm

geoffpm wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 11:49 am
The purists among you make me laugh and cringe. It's the same on the wine board. God forbid, one of us actually gets more pleasure from IGP Languedoc wines than first growths. If you actually took the time to learn about the Ken Onion. It's designed by one of the best knife makers in the States. Watch the reviews on Youtube.

I ask, how long does it take to sharpen a Japanese knife on stones? Bet it's a lot longer...

More importantly, the belts with different grits have not harmed my knives. It 's a question of skill and knowledge. This myth that Japanese knives need to sharpened on a stone is total BS.

I am a former Paris trained, Michelin 3 star trained chef. I have owned Global knives for a very long time and I will gladly hold up my razor sharp edges to any stone sharpened knives. I haven't chipped a blade or rendered it un-sharpenable(sic). One of the great things about the Ken Onion is that I have a quiver of knives with different angles of attack on the blades. It makes it really easy to go from my 30 degree Chinese cleaver to the 16 degree Global knives. Also, there is a guide that creates less chance of angle error.

I propose "getting off your high horse" and realize that most of us can't spend hours upon hours using stones. By the way, replacement Grit belts only cost $20.

Please continue your own habits and traditions. I will also continue to expose this community to newer interesting and less expensive wines and to technology that saves money and creates more leisure time for the home chef.

I spend $150 to have 7 medium and large European, American and Japanese knives sharpened in the Greater Boston area and i always have to touch them up myself.
Im confused, why do you spend $150 to sharpen your knives if you have the Ken Onion ?

The hours and hours is maybe 30 mins now and again, i do it while watching TV and its very relaxing, certainly not a chore
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#20 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 7th, 2019, 12:54 pm

Yes, I use a Lansky Sharpening System while watching TV. An hour of mindless time to sharpen a dozen knives.
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#21 Post by geoffpm » May 8th, 2019, 4:23 am

By all means, please continue to parse my comments in a failed attempt to criticize me. Before I owned this tool, I would spend $150 quarterly.

I frankly don't want to sit by my TV and sharpen my knives. I do it at the counter and get them done quickly and efficiently. My Globals are over 20 years old and still cutting well.
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#22 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 8th, 2019, 1:37 pm

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