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Anchovies

Posted: March 2nd, 2019, 2:14 pm
by Craig G
I’ve been in search of better anchovies recently and can report on two very good options. I’ve tried many other brands that are available locally including Ortiz and the two I’m recommending are several steps above.

Jay Miller recommended the Don Bocarte anchovies from Despana. I ordered some and they are extremely good, though the price is high and Despana wants to express ship them since they are refrigerated. I guess these may need to be kept cold due to lower salt content, but I’m not certain.

https://shop.despanabrandfoods.com/prod ... -anchovies

BTW don’t throw away the olive oil that these are packed in. It’s very good on bread.

Another very good option is Donostia:

https://www.donostiafoods.com/products/anchovies

These are a bit saltier than the ones above but less so than store brands. The texture is excellent. Donostia ships free for orders over $70-ish so these end up less than 50% of the Despana cost for me.

I may continue to order both of the above. I’d use the Donostia fish in anything since the cost isn’t that high. I would prefer to eat the Don Bocartes by themselves as it shows off their texture and flavor.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 6:09 am
by Jay Miller
Glad my recommendation worked out for you! I fell in love with those anchovies.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 6:56 am
by scamhi
I recently purchased a 500g flat of Anchoa, Serie Oro, Gold Series Anchovies in Olive Oil from Regalis foods. They are brown, flat packaged in layers and much firmer than any jarred anchovy. Perfect eaten on a slice of grilled ciabatta

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 7:10 am
by Mike Evans
I had a terrific dish made with these anchovies at Rue Cler in Durham about a year ago: https://www.gustiamo.com/salted-anchovi ... y-nettuno/.

Also, some hazelnuts from Gustiamo were a revelation, I don’t think I realized until tasting them that it had been years since I’d had a hazelnut that wasn’t at least starting to turn rancid.

Hat tip to Nathan V. (VLM) for introducing me to Gustiamo.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 3rd, 2019, 10:21 am
by Anton D
Thank you for that recommendation! I will be sure to check them out.

We had liked the line kept in the fridge ate Whole Foods, but they changed. This could be a great way to get the joy back!

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 6:56 pm
by Larry P
Mike Evans wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 7:10 am
I had a terrific dish made with these anchovies at Rue Cler in Durham about a year ago: https://www.gustiamo.com/salted-anchovi ... y-nettuno/.

Also, some hazelnuts from Gustiamo were a revelation, I don’t think I realized until tasting them that it had been years since I’d had a hazelnut that wasn’t at least starting to turn rancid.

Hat tip to Nathan V. (VLM) for introducing me to Gustiamo.
^^^ These are what I use. Very different flavor compared to oil-packed. You have to fillet them but it's pretty quick once you have the hang of it.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 11th, 2019, 1:58 am
by Betty C
I use salt-packed anchovies that are repackaged for sale by my local market, so I don’t know what brand it is. Regardless, I recommend salt-packed over those kept in oil because I find the flavor to be far less fishy.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 13th, 2019, 6:04 pm
by ryancurry
I love this thread. Don Bocarte are the best that I've found, but they certainly aren't cheap. I need to try some of the other suggestions.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 14th, 2019, 12:21 pm
by Bdklein
Betty C wrote:
March 11th, 2019, 1:58 am
I use salt-packed anchovies that are repackaged for sale by my local market, so I don’t know what brand it is. Regardless, I recommend salt-packed over those kept in oil because I find the flavor to be far less fishy.
Aren’t anchovies supposed to be (salty and) fishy? I guess I’ve never had high end anchovies.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 14th, 2019, 12:50 pm
by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow
Any of you [fellow] anchovy lovers use colatura d'alici..in your cooking or otherwise?

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 14th, 2019, 1:12 pm
by Craig G
Bdklein wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 12:21 pm
Betty C wrote:
March 11th, 2019, 1:58 am
I use salt-packed anchovies that are repackaged for sale by my local market, so I don’t know what brand it is. Regardless, I recommend salt-packed over those kept in oil because I find the flavor to be far less fishy.
Aren’t anchovies supposed to be (salty and) fishy? I guess I’ve never had high end anchovies.
They’re all salty, but some of the supermarket brands are intensely so. The salt packed ones can be soaked so you can modulate the saltiness quite a bit.

As for fishiness, I think we all want our fish to taste like fish, but we don’t want them to taste “fishy” :-)

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 14th, 2019, 1:16 pm
by Craig G
BTW until I found the Donostia and Don Bocarte anchovies, I also preferred salt-packed, but I like these oil-packed versions more.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 14th, 2019, 7:47 pm
by Kenny H
Solid data points. Thanks CG!

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:06 pm
by Betty C
Craig G wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 1:12 pm
Bdklein wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 12:21 pm
Betty C wrote:
March 11th, 2019, 1:58 am
I use salt-packed anchovies that are repackaged for sale by my local market, so I don’t know what brand it is. Regardless, I recommend salt-packed over those kept in oil because I find the flavor to be far less fishy.
Aren’t anchovies supposed to be (salty and) fishy? I guess I’ve never had high end anchovies.
They’re all salty, but some of the supermarket brands are intensely so. The salt packed ones can be soaked so you can modulate the saltiness quite a bit.

As for fishiness, I think we all want our fish to taste like fish, but we don’t want them to taste “fishy” :-)
This. When I say fishy, I mean it in the rotten sense.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 19th, 2019, 2:43 pm
by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow
You [inadvertently, it seems] raised a very interesting point....about "fishy"....

the colatura is both appealing and "fishy" in the sense you use it.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 25th, 2019, 6:03 pm
by scamhi
Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 12:50 pm
Any of you [fellow] anchovy lovers use colatura d'alici..in your cooking or otherwise?
I do.
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Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 6:28 am
by Jay Miller
I stopped by Despana this past weekend to pick up some anchovies for a party. The price came as a surprise but I swallowed a bit and went ahead.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 6:34 am
by scamhi
Jay Miller wrote:
March 26th, 2019, 6:28 am
I stopped by Despana this past weekend to pick up some anchovies for a party. The price came as a surprise but I swallowed a bit and went ahead.
what kind did you get? white or brown?

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 7:12 am
by Jay Miller
These:


Wish I had thought to check Amazon first. These are noticeably less expensive than what Despana is charging.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 7:43 am
by Craig G
Jay Miller wrote:
March 26th, 2019, 7:12 am
These:


Wish I had thought to check Amazon first. These are noticeably less expensive than what Despana is charging.
Were you buying the big can? I looked on Amazon for the small containers and they were more expensive than Despana.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 9:27 am
by scamhi
Jay Miller wrote:
March 26th, 2019, 7:12 am
These:


Wish I had thought to check Amazon first. These are noticeably less expensive than what Despana is charging.
if you haven't opened them return them to Despaña.
I will send you a link for an excellent 500g flat of anchoas in olive oil from Cantabria, Spain. under $60.00

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 11:36 am
by julianseersmartin
COuld you send me that link too, please?

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 12:48 pm
by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow
scamhi wrote:
March 25th, 2019, 6:03 pm
Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 12:50 pm
Any of you [fellow] anchovy lovers use colatura d'alici..in your cooking or otherwise?
I do.
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champagne.gif I baked some scallops with panko crumbs...and made spaghetti with colatura last night.....really good stuff.

quite an ingredient....though I haven't figured out much more to do with it than flavor pasta....which is enough, I guess.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 5:32 pm
by scamhi
Stuart,

I add a dash to all braised dishes. Similar to Fish Sauce it add umami

Re: Anchovies

Posted: March 27th, 2019, 10:12 am
by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow
A little more costly than fish sauce...

I do add some anchovy paste to braises usually....but...this stuff is a little too...costly for that...in my house. [stirthepothal.gif]

Re: Anchovies

Posted: April 2nd, 2019, 3:38 pm
by J. Ashourian
I have had the Markys "00" Filet of Cantabrian anchovy. They are very similar to Don Bocarte. Order from Markys.com

Re: Anchovies

Posted: April 2nd, 2019, 3:57 pm
by Craig G
J. Ashourian wrote:
April 2nd, 2019, 3:38 pm
I have had the Markys "00" Filet of Cantabrian anchovy. They are very similar to Don Bocarte. Order from Markys.com
Order in :-)

Re: Anchovies

Posted: April 5th, 2019, 7:50 am
by Craig G
J. Ashourian wrote:
April 2nd, 2019, 3:38 pm
I have had the Markys "00" Filet of Cantabrian anchovy. They are very similar to Don Bocarte. Order from Markys.com
Justin, thanks for the tip. These were indeed very good. I think the price came out similar or slightly lower than ordering Don Bocarte through Despana, but Markys had another product that is relatively cheap and fantastic - sardine filets cures like anchovies:

https://www.markys.com/Smoked-Salmon-an ... -lbs..html

These are not at all like any canned sardine as they are cured and not cooked. The texture is softer than the anchovies and they are less salty.

Re: Anchovies

Posted: April 5th, 2019, 9:20 am
by Nathan V.
Mike Evans wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 7:10 am
I had a terrific dish made with these anchovies at Rue Cler in Durham about a year ago: https://www.gustiamo.com/salted-anchovi ... y-nettuno/.

Also, some hazelnuts from Gustiamo were a revelation, I don’t think I realized until tasting them that it had been years since I’d had a hazelnut that wasn’t at least starting to turn rancid.

Hat tip to Nathan V. (VLM) for introducing me to Gustiamo.
Glad you liked them. These are like crack to me. I haven't had anything else quite as good. Cetara seem to be the best anchovies I've found but AFAIK there are only a couple of producers you can get stateside. Also, if you haven't tried the Colatura from them, it'll blow your mind.