BEEFER - the Porsche of grills

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#51 Post by **alan weinberg** » August 18th, 2018, 10:10 am

Easy Off! I used Simple Green but Easy Off would be better.

#52 Post by **Ken Strauss** » August 18th, 2018, 11:52 am

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
August 18th, 2018, 8:54 am

scamhi wrote: ↑
August 18th, 2018, 8:31 am

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
August 18th, 2018, 7:56 am
the stuff left on the grill parts was melted on and would have laughed at a dishwasher. It took work and steel wool to clean.
Alan- just give up and call it a patina
exactly. I now know why the videos show the drip pan far below the steaks—to avoid the drippings welding themselves irrevocably to the steel.

Alan,
That does change the situation.

saul_cooperstein · #53 Post by **saul_cooperstein** » August 18th, 2018, 12:58 pm

Is it possible to wrap the drip pan with foil or fill it with salt to make the clean up easier?

Kenny H · #54 Post by **Kenny H** » August 18th, 2018, 2:11 pm

aluminum foil?

#55 Post by **alan weinberg** » August 18th, 2018, 3:52 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote: ↑
August 18th, 2018, 12:58 pm
Is it possible to wrap the drip pan with foil or fill it with salt to make the clean up easier?

yes.

#56 Post by **J a y H a c k** » August 18th, 2018, 4:26 pm

Alan - How long did it take to cool? That's my big issue if I bring it in my car for a tailgate and have to pack it up before going into the game.

#57 Post by **alan weinberg** » August 18th, 2018, 9:57 pm

J a y H a c k wrote: ↑
August 18th, 2018, 4:26 pm
Alan - How long did it take to cool? That's my big issue if I bring it in my car for a tailgate and have to pack it up before going into the game.

Probably less than 30 minutes. The bottom stayed cool. You could likely put it in a metal pan right away using oven mitts.

#58 Post by **c fu** » August 20th, 2018, 4:21 pm

8 minutes for all 3 steaks? not too shabby! looks good too.

#59 Post by **Otto Dobre** » August 21st, 2018, 7:23 pm

Got me the little one. My only thing is where should I store it, outside or inside.

Martin Zwick · #60 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 25th, 2018, 11:39 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
August 17th, 2018, 7:51 pm

Difficulty is cleaning. Took 30 minutes of scrubbing the various trays that had drippings cemented to them. Real pain.

I would recommend to add butter, thyme, garlic to to the tray while resting the meat. Bottom line, you will have a great sauce and the butter will absorb meat liquid.

Martin Zwick · #61 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 26th, 2018, 4:25 am

And here comes a video (in german!) with stuffed calamaretti.

Martin Zwick · #62 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 26th, 2018, 4:32 am

And here comes an American review about the beefer.

Martin Zwick · #63 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 26th, 2018, 4:37 am

Sirloin and Beefer.

#64 Post by **Ken Strauss** » August 26th, 2018, 11:48 am

Martin
Thanks
I am ready to pull the trigger.

#65 Post by **K_F_o_l_e_y** » August 26th, 2018, 1:20 pm

From that video, it looks like the sear is a bit inconsistent across the steak. Less evident towards the open front of the Beefer.

#66 Post by **alan weinberg** » August 26th, 2018, 6:00 pm

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 11:48 am
Martin
Thanks
I am ready to pull the trigger.

why the Beefer over the Inferno? Same specs and $400+ cheaper for the latter.

#67 Post by **Ken Strauss** » August 26th, 2018, 6:35 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 6:00 pm

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 11:48 am
Martin
Thanks
I am ready to pull the trigger.
why the Beefer over the Inferno? Same specs and $400+ cheaper for the latter.

I like the look.
Overall looks like higher quality.
Ordered with burger and pizza stone.

#68 Post by **AlexS** » August 26th, 2018, 6:35 pm

K_F_o_l_e_y wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 1:20 pm
From that video, it looks like the sear is a bit inconsistent across the steak. Less evident towards the open front of the Beefer.

Agreed...tbh, the "sear" looked terrible.

#69 Post by **Henry Kiichli** » August 26th, 2018, 11:22 pm

Hi Martin,

Cheap Aldi knock-off?

https://www.aldi-nord.de/angebote/angeb ... ticle.html

Martin Zwick · #70 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 26th, 2018, 11:24 pm

Henry Kiichli wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 11:22 pm
Hi Martin,

Cheap Aldi knock-off?

https://www.aldi-nord.de/angebote/angeb ... ticle.html

Oh la la.......that´s ALDI

Martin Zwick · #71 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 26th, 2018, 11:40 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 6:00 pm

why the Beefer over the Inferno? Same specs and $400+ cheaper for the latter.
[/quote]

I respect and honor the inventors who had this great idea and pay more. In addition I like the pure design of the Beefer and of course Made in Germany.

We make our living by designing office chairs for Herman Miller (Cosm&Setu&Mirra&Mirra2), so I can`t find it funny when people buy a knock-off.

#72 Post by **alan weinberg** » August 27th, 2018, 7:48 am

Martin Zwick wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 11:40 pm

alan weinberg wrote: ↑
August 26th, 2018, 6:00 pm

why the Beefer over the Inferno? Same specs and $400+ cheaper for the latter.

I respect and honor the inventors who had this great idea and pay more. In addition I like the pure design of the Beefer and of course Made in Germany.

We make our living by designing office chairs for Herman Miller (Cosm&Setu&Mirra&Mirra2), so I can`t find it funny when people buy a knock-off.

Inferno also made in Deutschland. I am sure patents were respected. Who knows which was first? Do you? Maybe Beefer is the knockoff.

Martin Zwick · #73 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 27th, 2018, 8:04 am

Interesting, also Made in Germany.

Beefer was clearly the first. They released the first model in 2014.

Anyway, you are more or less happy with your gadget, besides cleaning, that's fine.

As you noticed ALDI will sell a kind of BEEFER at the end of the week for 149 Euro. It received good reviews.

#74 Post by **alan weinberg** » August 27th, 2018, 7:17 pm

Here’s another one, also German, debuted in 2015: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06WLMNT ... qzBED%2BbL

Martin Zwick · #75 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 27th, 2018, 10:09 pm

I know. Released one year after the first Beefer. BUT I have to give them credit for the size.

I don't like the design.

#76 Post by **Ken Strauss** » August 28th, 2018, 7:07 am

My beefer is ordered.
Very good customer service so far.
I didn’t see where to enter code for free shipping.
I e-mailed them. Refunded me right away.
Also received fed-ex #. My beefer will arrive 9/5.

Martin Zwick · #77 Post by **Martin Zwick** » August 28th, 2018, 7:55 am

COOL.

I am curious about your experience.

#78 Post by **Ken Strauss** » August 31st, 2018, 3:53 pm

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
August 28th, 2018, 7:07 am
My beefer is ordered.
Very good customer service so far.
I didn’t see where to enter code for free shipping.
I e-mailed them. Refunded me right away.
Also received fed-ex #. My beefer will arrive 9/5.

Incredible!
Beefer arrived today.
Defrosting a flannery steak.

#79 Post by **alan weinberg** » August 31st, 2018, 7:58 pm

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
August 31st, 2018, 3:53 pm

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
August 28th, 2018, 7:07 am
My beefer is ordered.
Very good customer service so far.
I didn’t see where to enter code for free shipping.
I e-mailed them. Refunded me right away.
Also received fed-ex #. My beefer will arrive 9/5.
Incredible!
Beefer arrived today.
Defrosting a flannery steak.

line drip pan w foil and keep it low so the drippings don’t evaporate. Makes cleaning easier.

Martin Zwick · #80 Post by **Martin Zwick** » September 1st, 2018, 1:22 am

Again, I would use the drippings for a sauce. Here is a video from 2014 from the first Beefer, meanwhile updated, with the most famous cook in Germany right now, Tim Mälzer, who makes a little butter&herbs&garlic sauce and additionally I would add the drippings of the meat.

Cheers,
Martin

#81 Post by **Ken Strauss** » September 1st, 2018, 6:31 am

Incredible results!
Put a little butter in the bottom tray.
We put the trays in the dishwasher to clean.
Like brand new.
Made burnt broccoli also.
Very happy!

#82 Post by **Ken Strauss** » September 3rd, 2018, 8:39 am

Used the beefer with salmon.
Amazing result!

#83 Post by **Jay Selman** » September 6th, 2018, 12:40 pm

With something that cooks so fast, will the interior of a thick steak (2 ") have time to reach 120f?

#84 Post by **alan weinberg** » September 6th, 2018, 6:07 pm

Jay Selman wrote: ↑
September 6th, 2018, 12:40 pm
With something that cooks so fast, will the interior of a thick steak (2 ") have time to reach 120f?

yes, just move the protein a little farther from the heat source for a bit.

Tom.Cole · #85 Post by **Tom.Cole** » September 8th, 2018, 3:22 pm

Warming drawer to 130 and then propane torch or vice versa. Much, much, much cheaper and the exact same result if one already has a more multitasking warming drawer.

Alton, I salute you.

#86 Post by **Ken Strauss** » September 9th, 2018, 9:47 am

Tom.Cole wrote: ↑
September 8th, 2018, 3:22 pm
Warming drawer to 130 and then propane torch or vice versa. Much, much, much cheaper and the exact same result if one already has a more multitasking warming drawer.

Alton, I salute you.

I would think this would provide an uneven crust.
Have you actually tried this technique?

#87 Post by **Jay Selman** » September 9th, 2018, 4:14 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote: ↑
August 18th, 2018, 12:58 pm
Is it possible to wrap the drip pan with foil or fill it with salt to make the clean up easier?

I have used sand for the same purpose

Tom.Cole · #88 Post by **Tom.Cole** » September 9th, 2018, 5:17 pm

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
September 9th, 2018, 9:47 am
I would think this would provide an uneven crust.
Have you actually tried this technique?

Yes. Beautiful crust. A few minutes at most for a perfect sear. I am in complete visual control unlike any other method.

#89 Post by **Ken Strauss** » September 9th, 2018, 5:41 pm

Tom.Cole wrote: ↑
September 9th, 2018, 5:17 pm

Ken Strauss wrote: ↑
September 9th, 2018, 9:47 am
I would think this would provide an uneven crust.
Have you actually tried this technique?
Yes. Beautiful crust. A few minutes at most for a perfect sear. I am in complete visual control unlike any other method.

Nice!
Post a pic!

#90 Post by **Mich@el Ch@ng** » September 10th, 2018, 10:39 am

Sous vide and blow torch would work great as well.

Tom.Cole · #91 Post by **Tom.Cole** » September 11th, 2018, 5:55 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote: ↑
September 10th, 2018, 10:39 am
Sous vide and blow torch would work great as well.

Agreed. Exact same method except I have a more multipurpose warming drawer already. Do not need to go to the extra expense to buy a sous vide machine or BEEFER.

But, whatever lifts your skirt.

#92 Post by **Jason T** » September 16th, 2018, 7:01 am

Advantage of warming drawer or other dry heat method is that you’re able to evaporate more moisture off of the surface before searing. In my experience sous vide following by paper towels to blot dry and either torch or pan sear doesn’t yield as nice a crust as reverse sear method.

#93 Post by **Otto Dobre** » September 16th, 2018, 4:24 pm

After sitting unpacked in the foyer for 3 weeks, finally unpacked it and put it to work. Took a lot longer than a minute to get my steak to medium. Yeah, the char is great, but for me 1 minute will just give you black and blue.

Also there is piece of metal L shaped that does not fit anything. Any ideas?

#94 Post by **Eric LeVine** » September 16th, 2018, 10:07 pm

Otto Dobre wrote: ↑
September 16th, 2018, 4:24 pm
Also there is piece of metal L shaped that does not fit anything. Any ideas?

Isn't that the handle to grab the tray and pull it in/out? I saw it in one of the videos. Watch this one at 5:40:

#95 Post by **Otto Dobre** » September 16th, 2018, 10:17 pm

Eric LeVine wrote: ↑
September 16th, 2018, 10:07 pm

Otto Dobre wrote: ↑
September 16th, 2018, 4:24 pm
Also there is piece of metal L shaped that does not fit anything. Any ideas?
Isn't that the handle to grab the tray and pull it in/out? I saw it in one of the videos. Watch this one at 5:40:

No, that is not it. The burger and pizza extras do not come with it. You get the machine, the propane connector, 2 drip trays, 2 grilling trays, one handle, one propane knob, and this additional piece I can't figure out.

Martin Zwick · #96 Post by **Martin Zwick** » September 16th, 2018, 10:42 pm

make a photo

Martin Zwick · #97 Post by **Martin Zwick** » September 17th, 2018, 3:25 am

P.S. just found another video........

#98 Post by **J a y H a c k** » September 18th, 2018, 7:08 am

My brother-in-law got a Roccbox pizza oven and brought it to the tailgate on Sunday. Looks like it's the same idea as the Beefer but designed for pizza. It takes perhaps 2 minutes. Results are excellent. I was too busy with ribs, brisket and seared tuna on the grill so I did not try the oven on anything else.

Martin Zwick · #99 Post by **Martin Zwick** » September 30th, 2018, 10:50 pm

"If you’re looking to reach Maillard nirvana, turn to the new Beefer grills."

https://gearpatrol.com/2018/04/11/beefe ... ree-grill/

https://www.thegrommet.com/beefer

#100 Post by **Ken Strauss** » October 1st, 2018, 6:18 am

Flannery Hanger steak beefer style.